Bachelorette 17 - Katie Thurston - S/Caps - *Sleuthing Spoilers*

@gabriele great catch!

So we have indeed what I think is…

F1 Andrew
F2 Blake
F3 Greg

But then 2 FS …. And potentially  3 HTD counting Greg if he had 3 1-1.

So the missing week may be more guys eliminated at F6 and F5…. Skipping maybe F4?

So my guess is that Greg realized when he saw some of his family that he couldn’t move away from his family to the west coast. That was not an option for him and she probably spoke she wouldn’t move to NYC. I am guessing she was frustrated because they spoke and he may have agreed it wasn’t an issue… then he changed his mind… that’s the only logical explanation I foresee. A long distance, no job, little money, away from family so nobody to support him… that was imo too much to handle. Jmo

And the never happened before is a caucasien lead and an African American F1. IMO

HEA wrote:@gabriele great catch!

So we have indeed what I think is…

F1 Andrew
F2 Blake
F3 Greg

But then 2 FS …. And potentially  3 HTD counting Greg if he had 3 1-1.

So the missing week may be more guys eliminated at F6 and F5…. Skipping maybe F4?

So my guess is that Greg realized when he saw some of his family that he couldn’t move away from his family to the west coast. That was not an option for him and she probably spoke she wouldn’t move to NYC. I am guessing she was frustrated because they spoke and he may have agreed it wasn’t an issue… then he changed his mind… that’s the only logical explanation I foresee. A long distance, no job, little money, away  from family so nobody to support him… that was imo too much to handle. Jmo

And the never happened before is a caucasien lead and an African American F1. IMO

Thanks! We’re on the same page except for F1 as I think it’s Blake.

I kind of doubt Greg had any intention of getting engaged and think he was probably there just for the opportunities.

We’ve had Clare and Dale so I don’t think that is it. What we haven’t had on the Bachelorette is someone coming in late and becoming F1. It did happen though on the Bachelor with Mary and Byron.

jmo

gabriele wrote:I am only seeing evidence of 2 FSs: the one that looks to be Andrew that @HEA has sleuthed and this one which is with Blake:

I took a different screenshot of this scene somewhere and when I lightened it I could clearly see the same arm with funny tan line as Blake in the hot tub photos. His hand is quite a bit paler than his arm and there is an obvious tan line between the two. Sorry, I can’t post photos but if I remember where I got the pic I’ll post it.

This supports Justin leaving around F4 and Greg probably leaving F3. It seems common for guys who leave the show to ditch out right before FSs: Brooks, Brendan.

Frank (Ali)… Graham (DeAnna)… even if graham was F4 I think.

@gabriele ohhhhhh you are right! I forgot Clare and dale! But dale is half caucasien half African American eh?

Somehow I see Blake more physical.

Will be fun if we are right with the top 2 against fantake and RS

@HEA I think we’re in good shape sleuthing so far. I haven’t watched Bachelor Fantake except a bit of one video. I hear he’s good. I really like @bachelorwhatever on IG. She matched up so many SCs. I’d never heard of her account before but saw it posted on Reddit. I think these big sleuthers are rising up to fill the gap that RS has left. I don’t think he has even announced F2 yet. Sleuthing is definitely the fun part to me! It’s like a giant puzzle we’re all doing together.

@gabriele yes.

My issue has always been some people taking for granted what RS says. He is so arrogant. I stopped reading him a long time ago. Plus his millions ads on each page that nobody cares. He has some leaks, yes. But lately he gives his spoilers few days before the finale… what’s the point?

Fantake is new to me. I watched his vid yesterday and he does a good sleuthing  work indeed. But he misses details. I prefer his style vs RS

I don’t go Reddit or anywhere else. I sometimes go watch buzz but lately the hosts were annoying so I stopped. I am not a huge medias user. Sleuthing is fun.

F3 would be a good point for Greg to exit if he was really only in it for the clout (as I suspect.) He gets almost all of the benefit of being on the show, but with no further obligations regarding Katie.

Some people are okay with moving a thousand miles (or two or three thousand miles) to be with their partner, and some are not. I moved two thousand miles away from my family to go to college and live out west for eight years, but eventually I wanted to come back home.

I'm wondering if Blake frequently wears gloves as a part of his wildlife management job, hence the pale hands. I used to be a parks worker, including wilderness parks, and I worked alongside park rangers. I wore work gloves most of the time, and the rangers, sometimes depending on what they were doing. I also had tan lines from wearing a T-shirt outside all day.

@Amethyst perhaps Greg tried to stay as long as he could to become the Bachelor. And then he started to fall for Katie and realized he was really going to hurt her if he stayed any long. Then bailed.

And I always find it interesting that the lead can become so invested in a guy or guys after just the Meet and Greet. So little time with each of them and probably so much time spent with producers, doing ITMs, group photo shoot.

@Amethyst I think you made good points.

I believe each contestant sign up with a jaded mind. Falling in love on this show? Me?
I think they see fame and glory. I think they will be in control. Not.
Most know that being top 4 is the goal to have chances not only about followers aka $$ partners but also a chance to be next bachelor which is more lucrative.

They all come from everywhere in the USA and the lead one place. So 50% they will move unless they have a business (like zac). One has to make the move, or both ultimately if they want LA glory. IMO

I think it was a conjecture of everything for Greg. No money. No family if moving. No career. Nothing to offer much to Katie who seems very down to earth. If she wants stability and marriage, Greg is definitely not a good choice imo. A guy who took acting classes is not shy. He loves spotlights. So I don’t buy one bit his shy nervousness acting on episode 1. Talking about kids and family was also a knowing way to cruise, smooth and make him look good…. Even if he loves his big family. I dunno. I don’t feel him genuine at all. Jmo

This reminds me Peter with Rachel. He had zero intention to end F2. He wanted to promote his gym. He made his huge crying baby tears on the floor but he never wanted Rachel. Heck! He could hardly touch and kiss her! At least, I hope Greg had some genuine feelings but I doubt they were. Maybe in the moment but not serious. Imo

Blake deals with big wild birds and all kind of dangerous animals so my guess is yes. He does wear gloves often. I check his Instagram yesterday and he seems very involved with protecting the wildlife, including Africa.

Talking about Blake… a video he made at his return with his dogs… he seems very upset. Not happy in love at all! One month later he is much better.

I checked Andrew and that is the polar opposite. He posted a cute “in one week everyone will be looking at you, my love” which is a very common sweet English way to call someone in England… but he is located in Austria. Maybe with English closed friends? And the video he attached after talking about “I think you have beautiful lips”…. Is is the attitude of a F1 or à rejected? On top of being very happy since his return. He posted pics from different countries but not sure they are real time.

I am trying to understand why Katie was so upset. I think she slept with Greg during the show. I think he changed his mind about relocating. I think she thought he could be the one but realized she lost her time.

Blake closing the door of the bedroom is typically a FS attitude. So thanks to @gabrielle to pinpoint this because for me no doubt he is top 2.

Same for me as I sleuthed with Katie with her messy hair on bed (white sheets) and white tee, running after Andrew saying (frankenbites) ILU. I have no doubt Andrew is top 2, if not F1 IMO

All in all. I stand with Andrew F1; Blake F2; Greg F3.

And I am almost sure Blake is on top list to be next bachelor…. Except he is Canadian. Kaitlyn is Canadian and was the bachelorette, so possible this won’t be an issue. But as someone pointed it, we still have Michelle season to go through and probably another broken-hearted guy to add.

My jaded me think that prods will push for two African American couple with Michelle. Not that I care who is green or purple at all. I just care about organic easy choice and my gut says that prods will push the "luck" to select more interesting African American to make sure the ending will be as THEY want them to be. Gut feeling here. Yes she will decide but prods cast the good and bad guys right? Ultimately they know how to manipulate. I believe prods want to reclaim their reputation after Matt mess and CH departure. IMO

JMO

Sidebar: I watched part of Blake’s IG post feeding the hawk. I guess that is his pet? Whoa. Oh, he says it’s a “working bird”, kind of like how there are police dogs. I’ll stick with the fluffy dogs & kitties. The work he does is cool.

I hope he gets a better edit this go round. Katie says in tonight’s 1-1 preview she is outdoorsy. Eta: She says “outdoor life” not specifically “outdoorsy”. Seriously, Katie and Blake seem made for each other. jmo

Eta: Blake has hoodies he sells that say “outdoorsy” on them. Interesting

@gabriele yes. I may revise my opinion on Blake but why did he go 3 times and 3 times falling for the leads? That’s seems weird. Imo

@HEA Do you really see it as him going 3 times? I see it as going twice, since he couldn’t control that Clare left with Dale.