Bachelor 25 - Matt James - Media SM - Discussion - *Sleuthing Spoilers*

Some of the scenes we see on this show are edited for obvious reasons to follow the producers narrative.

Just because there was no response shown by Matt when Bri told him how she feels doesn’t mean it didn’t happened.

I just don’t see it with Bri and think she was going home if Serena hadn’t taken herself out. If there were more between Matt & Bri they’d show ii, imo.

Has anyone seen “The Bachelor 2021 Travel Guide: Nemacolin”. I found it on the ABC app on my tv. It spoils the rest of the season.  There’s footage of Rachael and Matt in the FS, there’s footage of Bri and Matt prior to being in jammies in FS.  No FS footage for Michelle inside room, just of the tub for milk bath.  At the end, you see a horse and carriage with the happy couple going through the woods kissing. Looks like the area they show for the FRC.  It’s dusk, so definitely not the same carriage as the Princess date which was dark outside.  Looks like Matt is in the same Grey suit as the FRC pics.  Head of the woman honestly looks like it could be Rachael or Bri.  They both have those Center parts, and you really can only see top of woman’s head.

Here’s the link to it: The Bachelor 2021 Travel Guide: Nemacolin

@gabriele thanks for posting.

Not available if you're outside the USA.

There’s enough footage on there to sleuth our rooms and such just for the fun of it. I remember that’s how we’d figure out F3-F1 based on their fantasy suites. Honestly, Rachael has gotten the best of everything thus far so not expecting to unearth anything outside of that reality.

luvnunity wrote:There’s enough footage on there to sleuth our rooms and such just for the fun of it.  I remember that’s how we’d figure out F3-F1 based on their fantasy suites.  Honestly, Rachael has gotten the best of everything thus far so not expecting to unearth anything outside of that reality.

I sent Guardian Angel some screenshots I took from the video and lightened. Hopefully she can post them. I don’t have a photo hosting account anywhere right now. It looks like Rachael in the ending carriage scene to me.

Edit: I posted a quote and link to an article, which you’ll see quoted in the next post, but decided to remove it as I realized it is rather insensitive to Matt. My apologies for that, especially to @luvnunity

gabriele wrote:I don’t know how accurate Life&Style is generally but they do seem to get info on the Bach franchise as per spoiling Clare & Dale.

“Matt and Rachael Kirkconnell are no longer together,” an insider exclusively tells Life & Style one day after he spoke out about her past racist behavior.

“Matt broke up with Rachael mainly due to the backlash. At the end of the day, he cared more about protecting himself, supporting his friend [former Bachelorette] Rachel Lindsay and speaking out against the franchise. Rachael can’t wait until she can finally share her side of the story once the finale airs,” adds the source.

https://www.lifeandstylemag.com/posts/why-did-bachelors-matt-and-rachael-break-up-inside-split/

So now he's the bad guy for splitting from her? He's not obligated to stay with her. It's only been a few months since the show ended. Hardly enough time to be that deeply invested in what is ultimately a huge liability for him. Apparently, he didn't feel that she or the relationship was worth all this headache.

edit: nevermind

I find it sad when any couple breaks up particularly while the show is still airing. However, I can certainly understand why Matt did that. He is finding out some very difficult and troubling things and I would think that his trust in Rachael and the whole Bachelor process has been diminished greatly. Where does a relationship go from there? JMO.

@gabriele thanks for the s/caps!

I enlarged the carriage ride and it does look like Rachel to me. I can't read what's on the back of the carriage. It gets too blurry the larger I make it. It does look like MaTt?

I searched for carriage companies in the area. I found some posted by travellers, but not white carriages.


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