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Post by albean99 Sat Feb 13, 2021 2:50 pm

Maybe there should be an overhaul from the top down. I know that Fleiss won't go but he should see that the buck stops there and he needs to make changes. I know that Rachel Lindsay is wanting to leave BN but she'd be a good one to consult with on what needs changing. This isn't the only issue but it's certainly the one that's getting the headlines so the time is now, imo.

GMA had a story on Racheal yesterday so it's not going away anytime soon. Link


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Post by mbl Sat Feb 13, 2021 4:06 pm

The show hasn’t given ET, People, EW, eNews, etc. any promos about Monday’s episode. Even if the show isn’t promoting the episode on its own SM platforms right now (possibly to avoid negative comments?), it could still give the promos to the entertainment media. It makes me wonder — is something going on in terms of the remainder of the season? It’s just very strange to not have the entertainment media do what it does every week to get viewers excited to see what happens on the upcoming episode. All IMO.

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Post by bluwavz Sat Feb 13, 2021 4:30 pm



https://twitter.com/KristenGBaldwin/status/1360671000539631621?s=20
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Post by Guest Sat Feb 13, 2021 4:39 pm

albean99 wrote:Maybe there should be an overhaul from the top down. I know that Fleiss won't go but he should see that the buck stops there and he needs to make changes. I know that Rachel Lindsay is wanting to leave BN but she'd be a good one to consult with on what needs changing. This isn't the only issue but it's certainly the one that's getting the headlines so the time is now, imo.

GMA had a story on Racheal yesterday so it's not going away anytime soon. Link

The Los Angeles Times has an article as well: ‘The Bachelor’s’ first season with a Black lead is swept into a firestorm over race

Maybe with the news that CH is stepping aside for the rest of this season Rachel L will do ATFR.

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Post by Guest Sat Feb 13, 2021 5:13 pm


@BachelorData on IG always has interesting info.

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Post by Amethyst Sat Feb 13, 2021 5:43 pm

bluwavz wrote:

https://twitter.com/KristenGBaldwin/status/1360671000539631621?s=20

It's probably for the best. I would eventually like to see him back, but a break is probably in everyone's best interest.
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Post by Amethyst Sat Feb 13, 2021 5:58 pm

gabriele wrote:

@BachelorData on IG always has interesting info.

The numbers for individual cast member's screen time are telling. However, with five of the top six gone, the numbers may end up flipping. But it bites to know that even Heather already got substantially more screen time than Magi, one of my favorites.
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Post by ReneeM Sat Feb 13, 2021 6:10 pm

bluwavz wrote:

https://twitter.com/KristenGBaldwin/status/1360671000539631621?s=20
This is insane because he really could’ve just said “she hasn’t spoken yet but obviously as a franchise we don’t tolerate racism of any kind”. I mean, yes that’s a lie, as evidenced by him having a job at the time of that interview and still. But that’s all he had to say. That’s the crazy part. Think about that.

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Post by blueblues Sat Feb 13, 2021 6:18 pm

Dark Lord down. :yes:
For how long remains to be seen.

In any case it became impossible IMO for CH to host the ATFR and interview Rachael in the hot seat. With one racist absolving another from sin their last piece of credibility would have been lost.
All JMO

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Post by suzq Sat Feb 13, 2021 6:19 pm

I listened to Rachel's podcast "Higher Learning". Chris Harrison could have been smart and not talked personally in the interview. It was how he really felt in his beliefs and he couldn't help himself. He's very media trained, but he had "word vomit" because he seemed "triggered" to me. I hope that he can learn from this and others as well. I think this actually was a good thing that happened because it is bringing out a lot of things that have been a part of the Franchise for a long time that need to be changed. JMO.

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Post by leavers Sat Feb 13, 2021 6:21 pm

gabriele wrote:
albean99 wrote:Maybe there should be an overhaul from the top down. I know that Fleiss won't go but he should see that the buck stops there and he needs to make changes. I know that Rachel Lindsay is wanting to leave BN but she'd be a good one to consult with on what needs changing. This isn't the only issue but it's certainly the one that's getting the headlines so the time is now, imo.

GMA had a story on Racheal yesterday so it's not going away anytime soon. Link

The Los Angeles Times has an article as well: ‘The Bachelor’s’ first season with a Black lead is swept into a firestorm over race

Maybe with the news that CH is stepping aside for the rest of this season Rachel L will do ATFR.

I don't think she will tbh? She's said she's not renewing her contract with them and she seems 100% over it.
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