Bachelor 24 - Peter Weber - S/Caps - *Sleuthing Spoilers* #2

For some reason, I think HS LCD is 2nd this time, because Peter seems so melancholy.  Do you guys think that is why HS just can't handle how he's acting any more?  But, RS indicated in an e-mail reply that HS doesn't leave.  And said 'it's complicated' as to why Peter wasn't pissed off at Madi self eliminating.

atem wrote:I thought you can't leave AU without production permission.  Did they sort of force Madi to self eliminate, because she wouldn't do their fake engagement act?

I have no doubt that if Madison wanted to leave, production didn't hesitate to help her.  In fact, I would bet they expedited it so that she would not be there for Peter to have a chance to talk with her and convince her to stay.

Because IMO, they were determined to get an engagement and Madison wasn't down with it so they did everything they could to sabotage the relationship.  TPTB just keep getting worse with the games and tricks they pull to get the show they think the viewers want to see no matter what it does to the people involved.

Definitely not a fan of TPTB with all the crap they pulled on multiple girls this season.

IMO

atem wrote:For some reason, I think HS LCD is 2nd this time, because Peter seems so melancholy.  Do you guys think that is why HS just can't handle how he's acting any more?  But, RS indicated in an e-mail reply that HS doesn't leave.  And said 'it's complicated' as to why Peter wasn't pissed off at Madi self eliminating.

Could be. She has been all in the whole season so she may be rather frustrated that he’s more into Madi especially when Madi so reluctantly accepted the last rose. From the last preview HA was clearly having a bit of a meltdown at that RC so it probably started then for her. It’s also triple digits so they are probably all exhausted and so uncomfortable with the heat which makes everything harder. jmo

@gabriele Add to what you mentioned that she lost the last person she could commiserate and compare notes with in Victoria. I’m not sure how close she is with her, but it looks like what they went through in the last couple of weeks did forge a bond of some kind, fighting ‘ against’ Madison, whose choices they both didn’t really totally approve of at least in timing. She feels really alone now, contemplating that this could end badly for her if Peter’s feelings are that obvious.
JMO

Astrobach wrote:@gabriele Add to what you mentioned that she lost the last person she could commiserate and compare notes with in Victoria. I’m not sure how close she is with her, but it looks like what they went through in the last couple of weeks did forge a bond of some kind, fighting ‘ against’ Madison, whose choices they both didn’t really work today approve of at least in timing. She feels really alone now, contemplating that this could end badly for her if Peter’s feelings are that obvious.
JMO

And HA may have thought Madi would be going home after hearing about the almost ultimatum, especially if she slept with Peter. Then, when Madi got the rose HA started losing it a bit. I feel badly for her but what can you do? She did her best so i think it just wasn’t meant to be. jmo

Imo whoever said someone (presumably Hannah) was sick and couldn't go to the FRC has long been a thought of mine too.  I think Peter knew only Hannah was left.  He was going to let her go but she couldn't attend because of illness, probable heatstroke (not really a laughing matter).  That conversation with CH and then Peter lying down in the room was so emotionless, that I can't believe the news was a huge blindside to him imo.

@Agent99 I’ve had the same thought as well, it would not be surprising AT ALL, given the actual heat, stress, emotional anxiety, etc... plus he doesn’t seem sad, more annoyed, ( “ that’s the last thing I need right now”)   and he is ALSO mentioning that he’s going to pass out. That’s why they go inside and he’s lying down, trying to get cooler, with cool towels on his forehead.
These guys ( TPTB ) were so stupid IMO to want to shoot in the middle of this desert in full day, it’s their obsession to be ‘ secluded’ but the health and well being of the contestants are not taken Into consideration it seems ( or the crew for that matter).
I wonder if @Bobette or someone from Australia can attest to the climate and temperatures of this place in the month they were filming. Wasn’t it the summer there, in November? It looks dry, like the a Death Valley desert...
JMO

Yes, can confirm - they were MAD to go to central Australia during November IMO, let alone to have dates outdoors... sitting on the floor in the hot dirt... DRINKING ALCOHOL.  

Notice the crew here are wearing shorts, sturdy boots and hats; appropriate clothing for outback conditions.  Suits, high heels, make up... none of that is sensible out there IMO.



Source: Episode 1 Season Preview

@Bobette thanks for confirming! I remember somewhere, you did post a graph of the temps . And it was obvious already, how idiotic of an idea it was.

Chris said production didn't know.  So, that doesn't jive with the sick thing.

We need to focus on the caps though.

Is the F1 LCD usually 1st or 2nd?

Also....if she was sick, could they not put off the FRC for a day or 2?

Bobette wrote:Yes, can confirm - they were MAD to go to central Australia during November IMO, let alone to have dates outdoors... sitting on the floor in the hot dirt... DRINKING ALCOHOL.  

Notice the crew here are wearing shorts, sturdy boots and hats; appropriate clothing for outback conditions.  Suits, high heels, make up... none of that is sensible out there IMO.



Source: Episode 1 Season Preview

I have always thought that this video/screen cap was after the conversation and the bed scenes.  In their conversation, CH has his suit jacket on.  In the bed scene, you can see CH's jacket lying on the bed. And, in this screen cap, he doesn't have it on (earlier in the video portion, you can see him carrying it).

So it has always been my opinion that whatever it was shook Peter up enough that he needed time to think.  With the extreme heat, they may have decided it was best to go inside. Once Peter felt recovered enough, they went back to the outside location.

If neither girl is there, why would they do that???  Because I'm betting the one shot we got of Peter holding a ring was done earlier in the day before all of this happened.  Most of that stuff is filmed before the girls are scheduled to arrive.

@atem as for the LCD, they are usually filmed in the same order as the MTP.  No one ever has their date on back-to-back days with the other person having to wait an extra day to see the lead.

So if Hannah Ann had the first MTP, she would have had the first LCD.  With Peter talking to his parents in the clothing he wore on Madison's date, I am inclined to think hers is last. The lead does not sit down with the parents after each date.  So IMO, Madison's LCD was last, the day before the FRC.

IMO