Bachelor 24 - Peter Weber - S/Caps - *Sleuthing Spoilers* #2

akd5 wrote:@Bobette For me, i didn't have permission from my friend who was actually there to release the photos until a few days ago, even though i had them since the actual date the photos were taken. There is a reason she didn't want them posted, but i don't feel comfortable outting that. I know some spoiler pages go by what their sources say to do because they don't want to loose them as a source, including RS. I'm assuming its the same case with sleuther pages.

Whether the pics could be "released" or not, the information could still have been shared, if the intention was truly to provide information to help sleuthers IMO.  The images could have described (what they were wearing, where the pics were taken etc) and we could have worked out from there what the activities were likely to be, and who was at the GC Star.   The pics of Pete and Madi are clearly professional paparazzo shots IMO.  I believe there are other agendas at play here.  

Bobette wrote:

akd5 wrote:@Bobette For me, i didn't have permission from my friend who was actually there to release the photos until a few days ago, even though i had them since the actual date the photos were taken. There is a reason she didn't want them posted, but i don't feel comfortable outting that. I know some spoiler pages go by what their sources say to do because they don't want to loose them as a source, including RS. I'm assuming its the same case with sleuther pages.

Whether the pics could be "released" or not, the information could still have been shared, if the intention was truly to provide information to help sleuthers IMO.  The images could have described (what they were wearing, where the pics were taken etc) and we could have worked out from there what the activities were likely to be, and who was at the GC Star.   The pics of Pete and Madi are clearly professional paparazzo shots IMO.  I believe there are other agendas at play here.  

Just wondering what other agendas you might be referring to? TIA

Speaking about IG spoiler sites generally and not about any particular individual, I'd say there is a financial element.  Possibly being paid to "leak" certain pics/info to build hype for the show while suppressing other pics/info, but mainly attracting subscribers to their IG pages by appearing that they're "in the know", IMO.  

My personal opinion is, if anyone has info that would help with sleuthing and they choose to release it - Great! Thanks.  But don't tease.  Don't mess around with "I have XYZ but I can't release it until venus aligns with mars" or whatever the excuse might be.  And don't use our forum as a source of free advertising by posting links to your own site.  

And it's not just IG.  There was a situation during the last Bach AU season where someone affiliated with a betting agency posted that they knew who the winner was, but they didn't want to "spoil our fun", so they weren't sure if they should say or not.  They then started PMing selected members to drop hints.  Sorry but that's just BS.  

We see it also in AU with certain media outlets, who seem to be totally in kahoots with TPTB, IMO.  The finalists are almost always photographed by the paparrazzos, and yet the pics are concealed until the stage at which it is most profitable to release them.  In the meantime, they write articles which are IMO deliberately misleading.

That kind of game playing does not sit well with me.  If  the owners of IG sites or betting agencies or media outlets want to sit back and watch sleuthers go on a wild goose chase while they're bogarting pics/info that could easily ID the location of a date or the finalists of a season or whatever then so be it, but I don't enjoy wasting my time.

JMO.

Ok so going by the fact it looks like from the last previews that Madi FSD dinner portion she leaves and it is sanctuary cove not gold goast casino then imo this is HA in the bathroom. I also think that maybe that is Peters arm around her and that is the shadow of his arm and not the long hair as we thought.. jmo



@Hawaii girl Scap

@LeapofFaith Makes sense. Her hair was always a problem for me as it looks too long or too short depending on who we see!

Thanks @smg2587 for bringing this over.

smg2587 wrote:Okay so some Instagram pages posted these things in their stories.

BachSleuthers got a picture of Madison at the hotel they say its from November 10th. If that is so she got the last FS.

https://www.instagram.com/bachsleuthers/



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For whatever reason, it appears that person that took the pic's didn't share it with bachsleuthers until now IMHO. Whether bachsleuthers had these pics all this time, and decided to share it now, is not something I can comment on one way or the other as they seem to have posted pics and info all season long as they got them and we have benefited from that.

To be clear on sources. Posts must have a link to confirm where it came from. I check every link to ensure it's not a private SM account which we won't post and to make sure the information is being sourced back to the original poster to give them credit. Whether it's SM or tabloids or any s/cap we are taking while sleuthing from any other site, searching hotels etc. If you're taking a s/cap from another thread, copy the link where it's coming from. I need to be able to click on any link, and it takes me right to the original. There is no deviation from that due to copyright rules. I have in the past been warned, and I do not want to go through that again.

Private sources: if anyone has friends acquaintances etc who shared information with them by all means that information can be shared as long as they received permission from them. I have no idea if permission was obtained, but it's a common courtesy to ask. It must be clearly stated the information was obtained by someone, no need to disclose who, friend, neighbor, coworker, etc as often times that alone will get a poster in trouble. Paraphrase the info that was given. There is no need to provide proof of such posts. If there are pictures uploaded from a private source, clearly state this was given to me.

As a long time rule of this forum, we encourage anyone to share whatever information they choose and do not want to discourage such practices. Source does not need to be disclosed to protect their identity. We are not in a position to deter anyone from posting. Another long time rule of this forum is everyone has a choice to believe the information or not. We do not belittle anyone if they are wrong. We have seen in the past posters who were totally taken and were made to believe something that was not the case and affected them in a derogatory manner.

Please pm me anytime if you want to share any information and are not sure how to post it. TY

Pictures of Hannah Ann in Australia. I think she is dressed for a MTP in the ones away from the salon with production but who knows.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/tv/10997018/bachelor-2020-finalist-hannah-ann-sluss-looks-miserable-before-peter-weber-chooses-winner-in-australia/

What is on the ground near her feet in the first pic??

This is an example of what Bobette was mentioning yesterday. UK tabloids have pic's and they hold on to them. No credit or mention where the pics came from but mention they were taken in November unless they were taken from bachsleuth IG.

IA it's probably MTP.

Oops, I see what you mean now!  Sorry.

Obviously, she doesn't leave like some people on social media are trying to say for Barbara crying scene.

On sleuthingbach Instagram stories, they're claiming that the beach FS date was first (nov 6), the star casino was the second, and the third was O'Reilly's rainforest retreat (nov 8).

They also mention that production used Australia bachelor producers for locations. There was a picture of a girl that I'm assuming was a bachelor producer taking a picture.

Anyone able to upload the pics? I'm really bad at it. TIA

That makes no sense.  Madi's date was the last.  Didn't they see The Sun article/pictures?

It just tells me that they aren't very good sleuths.

heart wrote:On sleuthingbach Instagram stories, they're claiming that the beach FS date was first (nov 6), the star casino was the second, and the third was O'Reilly's rainforest retreat (nov 8).

They also mention that production used Australia bachelor producers for locations. There was a picture of a girl that I'm assuming was a bachelor producer taking a picture.

Anyone able to upload the pics? I'm really bad at it. TIA

RS put in his column today that Madison's fsd was last. Also the date of things and the picture I posted yesterday seem to match Madison getting the last date. Right now more evidence shows the order being Hannah Ann, Victoria, Madi. Also the sleuthingbach page forgot to take into account that the show doesn't film the fsds on consecutive days. There is a day break in between. They mention Hannah's beach date people seeing them November 6th and Victoria's November 8 that would mean there shouldn't be a fsd in between them.