Tyler Cameron - Bachelorette 15 - Discussion #4

GuardianAngel wrote:I wouldn't call Tyler's involvement with GH as an affair, neither one of them are married. An affair is a relationship with someone other than your spouse unless there is a new age meaning that I don't know about.

I didn't watch the vid, but if he was guarded, then IMO it was about GH and maybe the realization that he felt used? now that she is back with her former b/f. If it was about HB IMO  he wouldn't have any issue's discussing that for the umpteenth time. Or maybe it's about someone we don't even know about.

Idlemess wrote:Could the “relationship” be one of mutual opportunity as in I like you and think you’re a cool guy, so we’ll play up some press for a win win situation

Chgohighlife wrote:

Seatee wrote:I didn't say emotional, but just uncomfortable because his relationship with Gigi was never made official but it was obvious to the public. When talking about HB he is always more open because their relationship was broadcasted on national TV so there's nothing really to hide. When asked about his breakup in this particular video, he exhibited more of that uncomfortable/don't-really-want-to-talk-about-it behavior. JMO.

@Seatee
I totally agree with you. IMO, spending months with Gigi, in the intimacy of her apartment, with her family, in Europe at her grandmother’s funeral, with her friends - immersed in such a different lifestyle, with a girl so extraordinarily well rounded, sophisticated and smart - eclipsed his very limited, scripted, manipulated time with Hannah in its first 20 minutes. The proof is the pictures they took of him outside Hannah’s apartment after the drink date where all he was doing, without realizing the cameras were there - is staring at his phone, texting and trying to get the hell outta there and back to NYC. Tyler proposed, yes - but, it was a reality show romance he wanted to win, with a few well documented dates, IMO. Not a lifetime, forever love. Once he saw her season, saw what a hot mess she really was -he was done. Also, now that he’s had an affair with Gigi, and met so many interesting women of substance in NY and LA - Hannah is well, in context to put it nicely.
The whole “Gigi was just using him to get Zahn back” is frequently seen here but, far from the case, IMO. People familiar with their romance antics are fully aware that Gigi can always have Zahn back anytime she wants him. He loves her. Has for years. Her affair with Tyler was one of many attempts to get away from Zahn and have Tyler’s wholesome, positive, carefree relationship. Tyler is a guy whose heart and mind is unencumbered. Her friends were out in full force to meet Tyler and help her try but, as so many times before - she went back to where she was. It’s not a unique dynamic.
IMO, Tyler is 100% referring to Gigi. I think he loved her. All IMO

Bleiby527 wrote:

Chgohighlife wrote:

Seatee wrote:I didn't say emotional, but just uncomfortable because his relationship with Gigi was never made official but it was obvious to the public. When talking about HB he is always more open because their relationship was broadcasted on national TV so there's nothing really to hide. When asked about his breakup in this particular video, he exhibited more of that uncomfortable/don't-really-want-to-talk-about-it behavior. JMO.

@Seatee
I totally agree with you. IMO, spending months with Gigi, in the intimacy of her apartment, with her family, in Europe at her grandmother’s funeral, with her friends - immersed in such a different lifestyle, with a girl so extraordinarily well rounded, sophisticated and smart - eclipsed his very limited, scripted, manipulated time with Hannah in its first 20 minutes. The proof is the pictures they took of him outside Hannah’s apartment after the drink date where all he was doing, without realizing the cameras were there - is staring at his phone, texting and trying to get the hell outta there and back to NYC. Tyler proposed, yes - but, it was a reality show romance he wanted to win, with a few well documented dates, IMO. Not a lifetime, forever love. Once he saw her season, saw what a hot mess she really was -he was done. Also, now that he’s had an affair with Gigi, and met so many interesting women of substance in NY and LA - Hannah is well, in context to put it nicely.
The whole “Gigi was just using him to get Zahn back” is frequently seen here but, far from the case, IMO. People familiar with their romance antics are fully aware that Gigi can always have Zahn back anytime she wants him. He loves her. Has for years. Her affair with Tyler was one of many attempts to get away from Zahn and have Tyler’s wholesome, positive, carefree relationship. Tyler is a guy whose heart and mind is unencumbered. Her friends were out in full force to meet Tyler and help her try but, as so many times before - she went back to where she was. It’s not a unique dynamic.
IMO, Tyler is 100% referring to Gigi. I think he loved her. All IMO

Can you provide any evidence that Tyler loved Gigi or had any feelings for her more than as a fling? I've seen every interview Tyler has done since the season ended and he has never once spoken of Gigi with any feeling whatsoever - I think the best thing he said about her was that she was "amazing" and "great" and was going to "kill fashion week." While, on the other hand, he has often spoken about how hard the Hannah break-up was for him.

I see absolutely no evidence that this is about Gigi.

And yes Gigi did enjoy and use Tyler's popularity before fashion week. She was more in the press than she had been in years because of Tyler. I'd never heard of Gigi before her fling with Tyler and unfortunately now I am familiar with her whole family. JMO

Seatee

Just providing my two cents - I'm not sure if he loved Gigi but was probably very enamored by her. She was his unicorn imo. He couldn't talk about her in public the same way he could with Hannah and his Bachelorette experience, but doesn't mean he wasn't hurt by the breakup. The relationship was never confirmed and Gigi obviously has more privacy concerns, so it's not like he could go around saying he was devastated or blindsided during interviews. If you think about it, Tyler and Gigi probably spent more time together than Hannah and Tyler did so it's not unfair to say that he could have had deeper feelings for Gigi. We just didn't see their relationship play out on TV.

Seatee wrote:Just providing my two cents - I'm not sure if he loved Gigi but was probably very enamored by her. She was his unicorn imo. He couldn't talk about her in public the same way he could with Hannah and his Bachelorette experience, but doesn't mean he wasn't hurt by the breakup. The relationship was never confirmed and Gigi obviously has more privacy concerns, so it's not like he could go around saying he was devastated or blindsided during interviews. If you think about it, Tyler and Gigi probably spent more time together than Hannah and Tyler did so it's not unfair to say that he could have had deeper feelings for Gigi. We just didn't see their relationship play out on TV.

Chgohighlife wrote:

Bleiby527 wrote:

Chgohighlife wrote:

Seatee wrote:I didn't say emotional, but just uncomfortable because his relationship with Gigi was never made official but it was obvious to the public. When talking about HB he is always more open because their relationship was broadcasted on national TV so there's nothing really to hide. When asked about his breakup in this particular video, he exhibited more of that uncomfortable/don't-really-want-to-talk-about-it behavior. JMO.

@Seatee
I totally agree with you. IMO, spending months with Gigi, in the intimacy of her apartment, with her family, in Europe at her grandmother’s funeral, with her friends - immersed in such a different lifestyle, with a girl so extraordinarily well rounded, sophisticated and smart - eclipsed his very limited, scripted, manipulated time with Hannah in its first 20 minutes. The proof is the pictures they took of him outside Hannah’s apartment after the drink date where all he was doing, without realizing the cameras were there - is staring at his phone, texting and trying to get the hell outta there and back to NYC. Tyler proposed, yes - but, it was a reality show romance he wanted to win, with a few well documented dates, IMO. Not a lifetime, forever love. Once he saw her season, saw what a hot mess she really was -he was done. Also, now that he’s had an affair with Gigi, and met so many interesting women of substance in NY and LA - Hannah is well, in context to put it nicely.
The whole “Gigi was just using him to get Zahn back” is frequently seen here but, far from the case, IMO. People familiar with their romance antics are fully aware that Gigi can always have Zahn back anytime she wants him. He loves her. Has for years. Her affair with Tyler was one of many attempts to get away from Zahn and have Tyler’s wholesome, positive, carefree relationship. Tyler is a guy whose heart and mind is unencumbered. Her friends were out in full force to meet Tyler and help her try but, as so many times before - she went back to where she was. It’s not a unique dynamic.
IMO, Tyler is 100% referring to Gigi. I think he loved her. All IMO

Can you provide any evidence that Tyler loved Gigi or had any feelings for her more than as a fling? I've seen every interview Tyler has done since the season ended and he has never once spoken of Gigi with any feeling whatsoever - I think the best thing he said about her was that she was "amazing" and "great" and was going to "kill fashion week." While, on the other hand, he has often spoken about how hard the Hannah break-up was for him.

I see absolutely no evidence that this is about Gigi.

And yes Gigi did enjoy and use Tyler's popularity before fashion week. She was more in the press than she had been in years because of Tyler. I'd never heard of Gigi before her fling with Tyler and unfortunately now I am familiar with her whole family. JMO

Wow. You never heard of Gigi before Tyler. Well, that explains everything....she only has 35 international Vogue covers and 51,800,000 IG (that’s 51.8 MILLION) followers so now I understand your perspective.