Angie Kent - Carlin Sterritt - Bachelorette Australia - Season 5 - Discussion

Vjeff wrote:

sprout wrote:I am so glad I’m not in the public spotlight so that my every facial expression is scrutinised and untrue things written as a result  
JMO

Lucky for you you choose not to be! Everyone in the public eye from reality TV 100% knows what they are signing up for!

rosefun wrote: wow a lot has been said on here since I last looked.

Personally and firstly I just want to say to Angie and Carlin's fans on here, I get it and your defensiveness... I remember getting ssso involved in my defense of Sam & Snez on another forum in their season, man did I become invested! I also did the same to some extent with Sophie and Stu .

I respect your fandom and for that reason I wouldn't visit Angie & Carlin's fan page and post my opinions or negativity. But here on the general discussion thread and on Angie season thread, I think there's been a lot of links and fact backing up why people doubt the sincerity of love story or the motives of why they did the show. They aren't unique if they did the show for exposure. And questioning their sincerity isn't saying that they're 'bad people' either or wishing them bad as some people seem to have defensively interpreted it.

I know for me, most of my posts about them have simply been reacting to the  '100% genuine", "100% sincere" etc fan posts in the thread because I don't get it, but again I'll be happy to be wrong.

Imo, the bottom line is that we can all wish people well and be happy to be wrong while still having an opinion based on what we see.

cheers.

Pongo wrote:I saw Angie and Carlin on Have You Been Paying Attention (HYBPA). Carlin was actually kind of funny/likeable unlike his persona on the show. In contrast Angie's face didn't move at all due to all the work she has had done.

I really hope the next person Bachelorette they cast has not had any work done. It is sending the wrong message to young girls IMO.

sprout wrote:

Just Looking wrote:P@Vjeff my view on all of these couples is that it doesn’t matter what they do for work or money.   If they like each other and/or fall in love that’s wonderful.  If they get some exposure or opportunities along the way, then good on them. As long as they are happ and that’s down to them. Of course JMO

I agree. Why is shilling so frowned upon? What people do for a living is up to them.  
JMO

Storybook wrote:I watched this program last night. I am at a loss to know why the media are so cruel to Angie and Carlin. They both laughed along with the host and panel at what was said to them. Carlin owned up to not having yet read Angie's book (he knows Angie's past from Angie herself so he doesn't need to read it, although I'm sure he will). Carlin was made to feel "bad" by the panel and Angie went along with it, but it was all in good fun.
I feel sorry for Carlin and Angie, every facial expression is scrutinised and a negative story is written about them.

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Genevieve Australia wrote:

Azzurra wrote:

Pongo wrote:I saw Angie and Carlin on Have You Been Paying Attention (HYBPA). Carlin was actually kind of funny/likeable unlike his persona on the show. In contrast Angie's face didn't move at all due to all the work she has had done.

I really hope the next person Bachelorette they cast has not had any work done. It is sending the wrong message to young girls IMO.

I am starting to believe that Carlin was more genuine than her after all... Maybe as a person he is not that bad, if one forgets about his white lies about acting.
anyway.

Carlin is not bad at all. I have seen comments of some people here saying that they know people who know Carlin, and all of them think highly of him. I also happen to know some people who know Carlin well and all agree that Carlin is a really really nice guy in real life. The negative opinion some people have about him is based on the show, which is edited to the extreme.  Even the trashy tabloids revealed that all the guys like Carlin and found him genuine.  Basically, I see no reason to believe that Carlin was dishonest, he omitted things because he didn't want to be stereotyped, and just take a look at the social media, the moment people started seeing him on TV (apparently his ads were on from week 1, so on Facebook people wrote about those ads), people became suspicious! They thought that since he was an actor then he was there for the wrong reasons. Those comments were posted even before the episode in which Jamie discussed his concerns about Carlin with Angie, aired. Carlin was right expecting people reacting that way, the bias were strong.


One observation: most of what Carlin does is considered as modelling not acting. Here in Australia, and I believe also in some  European countries, saying that you are a professional actor when you are predominantly doing TV ads and sporadic extras is a bit weird, and is looked down. I understand why Carlin didn't want to call himself an actor, what he does is side acting and extras (not really acting) but that is not his main job. One thing, Azzurra @Azzurra  I don't understand  your comment saying that you don't think Carlin would have 'the audacity to go to castings'. Why not? He is part of an agency, I used to go to castings in my 20s and did some ads. I don't see the problem with it, it is fun, extra cash and if they think you are the type and like your work you got the job. A casual model is called by agencies who receive commissions. I never put much effort into it at all because I had a career, it was just fun. I think another poster mentioned here that her sister was also doing some acting yet she had a career. Ads are really not big deals.

sprout wrote:

Vjeff wrote:

sprout wrote:I am so glad I’m not in the public spotlight so that my every facial expression is scrutinised and untrue things written as a result  
JMO

Lucky for you you choose not to be! Everyone in the public eye from reality TV 100% knows what they are signing up for!

Of course! It takes a strong person not to be affected by these lies imo and I think Angie and Carlin are doing a good job of remaining positive. 
P.s shouldn’t there be an imo or JMO in your post? I thought that was one of the rules of the forum?

Genevieve Australia wrote:

rosefun wrote:wow a lot has been said on here since I last looked.

But here on the general discussion thread and on Angie season thread, I think there's been a lot of links and fact backing up why people doubt the sincerity of love story or the motives of why they did the show. They aren't unique if they did the show for exposure. And questioning their sincerity isn't saying that they're 'bad people' either or wishing them bad as some people seem to have defensively interpreted it.

I know for me, most of my posts about them have simply been reacting to the  '100% genuine", "100% sincere" etc fan posts in the thread because I don't get it, but again I'll be happy to be wrong.

Imo, the bottom line is that we can all wish people well and be happy to be wrong while still having an opinion based on what we see.

cheers.

Rose, I do not think we can talk about 'facts' when we refer to tabloids because otherwise how many children would Jennifer Aniston would have and how many times would she have reconcile with Brad Pitt?. I think those of us who choose to believe that Carlin and Angie's relationship is real have every right to question the veracity of those reports, especially when considering the credibility of those magazines, and knowing fully that most of those times the sources they talk about are fictional IMO.

One more thing, based on the guidelines and rules of the forum that I have carefully read, the general thread is designed for both  criticism of the couple and also for posts supporting the couple, otherwise the thread would not be called general thread. All views are welcome here on the General Thread, so to suggest that those who really like Carlin and Angie stay on the Fan thread is imprudent. Finally, I have never considered myself as a fan of the couple  and IMO it is not fair to insinuate or affirm that people are been 'defensive' here due to their status as 'fans'; that comes across as a bit snarky (even if that was not your intention) and IMO here, there are arguments presented and also counter-arguments so I don't consider counter-arguments as a display of 'defensiveness' or 'fandom' .