Tyler Cameron - Bachelorette 15 - Discussion

@Summerfun1980 Actually the two days in between we do know what he was up to. Friday he had his flight back to NYC and Saturday he was at a friend's farewell party that moved all over the city but was mainly at Freehold Brooklyn. He was tagged there in fan pictures and his friend that had the farewell party had showed him in his IG stories. Just adding this because it was in my head. Interestingly enough that friend moved to LA.

Summerfun1980 wrote:@Sprite Ok, so still not what tyler did (three in three days) and my point that tyler wasn't on the clock to choose a wife in a couple weeks and let the others go still stands.  He chose to have three dates in three days all on his own. I don't see the comparison.  JMO And, unlike Hannah, there were no cameras following him around 24/7 so we don't know who else he saw in 5 or 6 days.

We also don't know what he did. Coffee date isn't exactly the same as screaming sex in a windmill four times. To me they are pretty comparable and I highly doubt Hannah was all that serious about finding a husband. I guess we will have to agree to disagree.

@smg2587 I said during a week’s time, 5 to 6 days. We don’t know his whereabouts for that week 24/7 like we did Hannah’s during FS. Tyler has done plenty of roaming around undetected.

Kristen Burtt, who usually has good DWTS inside  info, tweeted, that the DWTS  cast announcement delay was to do with the mass shootings.

https://twitter.com/KristynBurtt/status/1158351937709854720?s=20

https://mobile.twitter.com/kristynburtt

As for Tyler dating other people too, good on him. That's what being single and dating around means. Going on dates. Jmho.

Loulou wrote:Hi all. I’m not disputing what has been spoken  about in regards to Tyler dating women after the f1 spoiler was changed as don’t have any facts however question what is classified as a date? Tyler and v met at a busy cafe and their table was on a foot path. Hardly to place for a first date? Can a man and woman not have lunch without it being considered a date? V forgot to say how they met? Maybe Tyler thought it was networking or did as a favour for a friend?  I don’t understand why she is discussing this now, especially as she must know he is unlikely to respond. Imo lots of grey area with the term ‘date’ and open to interpretation.

Thank you ! I’m really getting annoyed with the constant ‘ dating’ word being used whenever Tyler is seen to meet someone, a woman in particular. He is well liked and a great guy to spend time with. We fell in love with
his direct and yet respectful approach with Hannah. Isn’t he aloud to go and have coffee, drinks or even, god forbid a whole meal, with a woman without it being a ‘date’ ?  That word has a connotation of a romantic involvement that may NOT be at all part of the equation. It’s his business who he sees and why. This overanalyzing of his every single gesture is really invasive and leads to not only assumptions that are proven to be wrong, but also to a lot of hurt when these expectations are not fulfilled or misinterpreted.
What if Hannah was going out for coffee or drinks with a single man..would that be labeled a ‘ date ‘ ?  Where is the space for connecting on a business level and / or developing friendship here without onlookers jumping to conclusions that they are full-on committed relationship and implying some kind of cheating or disrespect when it’s not fitting their narrative?

smg2587 wrote:@Summerfun1980 Actually the two days in between we do know what he was up to. Friday he had his flight back to NYC and Saturday he was at a friend's farewell party that moved all over the city but was mainly at Freehold Brooklyn. He was tagged there in fan pictures and his friend that had the farewell party had showed him in his IG stories. Just adding this because it was in my head. Interestingly enough that friend moved to LA.

And we know that Tyler was not aloud to see Hannah alone before the big Finale where TPTB used him, right at the last minute, to try and salvage a little bit of the lost romance that we had just witnessed. He wasn’t even given the respect of a deeper and longer chat, like ALL F2 were given before him...oh, wait Peter as F3, had 45 minutes on the couch, alone with Chris and with Hannah. But Tyler had less than 5 minutes to make his entrance, get over his nerves and act as natural as possible as Hannah publicly asked him out.
And by the way, that time with Hannah was set for them to CATCH UP... and I can see how it would take a large portion of a night to go into all that was needed to be communicated; she said herself that they talked all night. So, there is no funny business and sex when you’re both hurting and trying to see what is still there. The morning pictures show they were comfortable enough to have Hannah shown in her shorts and t shirt. It didn’t look like a Romeo saying goodbye to his Juliet. They were probably exhausted and drained out. They were unaware of the paps until too late and Tyler looks literally P/O when he realizes it.
Then the photo gets plastered everywhere and the conclusion is that Tyler had a sleepover with Hannah with all the sexual / romantic / couple connotations that goes with it.
So strike 2  on the DATE front, this was a much needed get together between two adults that lived a pretty unique love experience where they were controlled ( contractually obligated) to NOT deal face to face with their remaining feelings for MONTHS because of a TV show.

Cocoasneeze wrote:Kristen Birth, who usually has good DWTS inside  info, tweeted, that the DWTS  cast announcement delay was to do with the mass shootings.

https://twitter.com/KristynBurtt/status/1158351937709854720?s=20

https://mobile.twitter.com/kristynburtt

As for Tyler dating other people too, good on him. That's what being single and dating around means. Going on dates. Jmho.

Again, this information was distorted to fit the wishes of many that maybe the both of them would do DWTS. maybe it’s true, maybe it’s not. Maybe it was and then changed after Tyler decided to live his life without asking permission from TPTB. It is still entirely possible that he does it, the ratings would be gold no matter what is going on between Hannah and him. We’ll have to wait a bit longer to find out.
In conclusion, I think Tyler got caught into a very publicly visible, paparazzi and tabloid ‘dating’ campaign and it’s escalated to the hilts because now with someone like GH, who has been known to involve the Paps to report her love life, whenever is needed to bring attention to her, for whatever narrative her PR team is looking for. And Tyler is not used to all these BTS layers that are part of her daily life. He is a very sought after eligible bachelor, and is getting thrown into the ring while still dealing with broken hearted feelings, hurt and confused about the last few weeks events. I mean it’s only been 3 WEEKS since the AFR.

JMHO

It seems to me, that Tyler is fully aware of the paparazzi, and it hasn't deterred him from going on more dates. Imo he is an adult man, who went on a televised dating show. Imo he's 100% aware of how to get publicity on himself, he's not a naive, clueless teenager being taken for some wild ride. Jmho.

Astrobach wrote:

Loulou wrote:Hi all. I’m not disputing what has been spoken  about in regards to Tyler dating women after the f1 spoiler was changed as don’t have any facts however question what is classified as a date? Tyler and v met at a busy cafe and their table was on a foot path. Hardly to place for a first date? Can a man and woman not have lunch without it being considered a date? V forgot to say how they met? Maybe Tyler thought it was networking or did as a favour for a friend?  I don’t understand why she is discussing this now, especially as she must know he is unlikely to respond. Imo lots of grey area with the term ‘date’ and open to interpretation.

Thank you ! I’m really getting annoyed with the constant ‘ dating’ word being used whenever Tyler is seen to meet someone, a woman in particular. He is well liked and a great guy to spend time with. We fell in love with
his direct and yet respectful approach with Hannah. Isn’t he aloud to go and have coffee, drinks or even, god forbid a whole meal, with a woman without it being a ‘date’ ?  That word has a connotation of a romantic involvement that may NOT be at all part of the equation. It’s his business who he sees and why. This overanalyzing of his every single gesture is really invasive and leads to not only assumptions that are proven to be wrong, but also to a lot of hurt when these expectations are not fulfilled or misinterpreted.
What if Hannah was going out for coffee or drinks with a single man..would that be labeled a ‘ date ‘ ?  Where is the space for connecting on a business level and / or developing friendship here without onlookers jumping to conclusions that they are full-on committed relationship and implying some kind of cheating or disrespect when it’s not fitting their narrative?

smg2587 wrote:@Summerfun1980 Actually the two days in between we do know what he was up to. Friday he had his flight back to NYC and Saturday he was at a friend's farewell party that moved all over the city but was mainly at Freehold Brooklyn. He was tagged there in fan pictures and his friend that had the farewell party had showed him in his IG stories. Just adding this because it was in my head. Interestingly enough that friend moved to LA.

And we know that Tyler was not aloud to see Hannah alone before the big Finale where TPTB used him, right at the last minute, to try and salvage a little bit of the lost romance that we had just witnessed. He wasn’t even given the respect of a deeper and longer chat, like ALL F2 were given before him...oh, wait Peter as F3, had 45 minutes on the couch, alone with Chris and with Hannah. But Tyler had less than 5 minutes to make his entrance, get over his nerves and act as natural as possible as Hannah publicly asked him out.
And by the way, that time with Hannah was set for them to CATCH UP... and I can see how it would take a large portion of a night to go into all that was needed to be communicated; she said herself that they talked all night. So, there is no funny business and sex when you’re both hurting and trying to see what is still there. The morning pictures show they were comfortable enough to have Hannah shown in her shorts and t shirt. It didn’t look like a Romeo saying goodbye to his Juliet. They were probably exhausted and drained out. They were unaware of the paps until too late and Tyler looks literally P/O when he realizes it.
Then the photo gets plastered everywhere and the conclusion is that Tyler had a sleepover with Hannah with all the sexual / romantic / couple connotations that goes with it.
So strike 2  on the DATE front, this was a much needed get together between two adults that lived a pretty unique love experience where they were controlled ( contractually obligated) to NOT deal face to face with their remaining feelings for MONTHS because of a TV show.

Cocoasneeze wrote:Kristen Birth, who usually has good DWTS inside  info, tweeted, that the DWTS  cast announcement delay was to do with the mass shootings.

https://twitter.com/KristynBurtt/status/1158351937709854720?s=20

https://mobile.twitter.com/kristynburtt

As for Tyler dating other people too, good on him. That's what being single and dating around means. Going on dates. Jmho.

Again, this information was distorted to fit the wishes of many that maybe the both of them would do DWTS. maybe it’s true, maybe it’s not. Maybe it was and then changed after Tyler decided to live his life without asking permission from TPTB. It is still entirely possible that he does it, the ratings would be gold no matter what is going on between Hannah and him. We’ll have to wait a bit longer to find out.
In conclusion, I think Tyler got caught into a very publicly visible, paparazzi and tabloid ‘dating’ campaign and it’s escalated to the hilts because now with someone like GH, who has been known to involve the Paps to report her love life, whenever is needed to bring attention to her, for whatever narrative her PR team is looking for. And Tyler is not used to all these BTS layers that are part of her daily life. He is a very sought after eligible bachelor, and is getting thrown into the ring while still dealing with broken hearted feelings, hurt and confused about the last few weeks events. I mean it’s only been 3 WEEKS since the AFR.

JMHO

I agree with your post. GH slid into his DM's  not the other way around.,they were probably texting and talking and made plans to meet up after the show was done airing . I believe he met up with Hannah to catch her up on what's going on in HIS life and told her of his plans to go on the date with GH so she didn't have to read it or hear it from anyone else. Date 1 most likely went well because it lead to date #2 . The rest remains to be seen. But I don't blame Tyler one bit for wanting to explore relationships/Friends/Business opportunities that come his way. I'm glad he is smart enough to catch on to CH and the bachelor franchise because they are NOT his friends by no means. Colton learned the hard way too. Hannah? well I think she's' a bit nieve and still trusts them. I don't care what anyone says , they knew about JED'S GF and never told her. They ruined her season for her and they were trying to use Tyler at the last minute to clean up their mess. So her consolation prize is DWTS. JMHO

^^^@cocoasneeze Just to clarify, I didn’t imply that he was anything like what you said. BUT there is a HUGE difference, IMHO, between, having fans asking to take a picture with him, being recognized and photographed on his daily outings, and having to deal with ‘ leaked’ photos from inside a club where photos are forbidden, to preserve some privacy, or the constant clicks of paparazzis watching your every move because you are in the company of a world renown model.
He was able to get away and be pretty invisible before meeting her in NYC and this has propelled him, for better and worse, to a completely different level of scrutiny and lack of privacy.
I also believe that Tyler has used his notoriety to promote many worthwhile causes and has steered clear of involving his private life up till now. I don’t  think he ‘ enjoys’ being followed everywhere, but is chill and see the humor of the situation he is in.
JMO

Loulou wrote:Hi all. I’m not disputing what has been spoken  about in regards to Tyler dating women after the f1 spoiler was changed as don’t have any facts however question what is classified as a date? Tyler and v met at a busy cafe and their table was on a foot path. Hardly to place for a first date? Can a man and woman not have lunch without it being considered a date? V forgot to say how they met? Maybe Tyler thought it was networking or did as a favour for a friend?  I don’t understand why she is discussing this now, especially as she must know he is unlikely to respond. Imo lots of grey area with the term ‘date’ and open to interpretation.

Exactly my thought. Tyler has always said to have a lot of female friends. Why is everyone assuming he is on dates instead of just having lunch or diner or hanging out.

Imho Tyler, all on his own, went on a televised dating show. He all on his own gave up big part of his privacy, and sought out publicity. The difference now is, that he's pictured entering and exiting buildings, instead of making out or proposing while being filmed. He didn't loose his privacy because of anyone he's dating or not dating now, he lost it, because he chose to give it up by going on a dating show millions of people watch. Jmho.

Astrobach wrote:

Loulou wrote:Hi all. I’m not disputing what has been spoken  about in regards to Tyler dating women after the f1 spoiler was changed as don’t have any facts however question what is classified as a date? Tyler and v met at a busy cafe and their table was on a foot path. Hardly to place for a first date? Can a man and woman not have lunch without it being considered a date? V forgot to say how they met? Maybe Tyler thought it was networking or did as a favour for a friend?  I don’t understand why she is discussing this now, especially as she must know he is unlikely to respond. Imo lots of grey area with the term ‘date’ and open to interpretation.

Thank you ! I’m really getting annoyed with the constant ‘ dating’ word being used whenever Tyler is seen to meet someone, a woman in particular. He is well liked and a great guy to spend time with. We fell in love with
his direct and yet respectful approach with Hannah. Isn’t he aloud to go and have coffee, drinks or even, god forbid a whole meal, with a woman without it being a ‘date’ ?  That word has a connotation of a romantic involvement that may NOT be at all part of the equation. It’s his business who he sees and why. This overanalyzing of his every single gesture is really invasive and leads to not only assumptions that are proven to be wrong, but also to a lot of hurt when these expectations are not fulfilled or misinterpreted.
What if Hannah was going out for coffee or drinks with a single man..would that be labeled a ‘ date ‘ ?  Where is the space for connecting on a business level and / or developing friendship here without onlookers jumping to conclusions that they are full-on committed relationship and implying some kind of cheating or disrespect when it’s not fitting their narrative?

smg2587 wrote:@Summerfun1980 Actually the two days in between we do know what he was up to. Friday he had his flight back to NYC and Saturday he was at a friend's farewell party that moved all over the city but was mainly at Freehold Brooklyn. He was tagged there in fan pictures and his friend that had the farewell party had showed him in his IG stories. Just adding this because it was in my head. Interestingly enough that friend moved to LA.

And we know that Tyler was not aloud to see Hannah alone before the big Finale where TPTB used him, right at the last minute, to try and salvage a little bit of the lost romance that we had just witnessed. He wasn’t even given the respect of a deeper and longer chat, like ALL F2 were given before him...oh, wait Peter as F3, had 45 minutes on the couch, alone with Chris and with Hannah. But Tyler had less than 5 minutes to make his entrance, get over his nerves and act as natural as possible as Hannah publicly asked him out.
And by the way, that time with Hannah was set for them to CATCH UP... and I can see how it would take a large portion of a night to go into all that was needed to be communicated; she said herself that they talked all night. So, there is no funny business and sex when you’re both hurting and trying to see what is still there. The morning pictures show they were comfortable enough to have Hannah shown in her shorts and t shirt. It didn’t look like a Romeo saying goodbye to his Juliet. They were probably exhausted and drained out. They were unaware of the paps until too late and Tyler looks literally P/O when he realizes it.
Then the photo gets plastered everywhere and the conclusion is that Tyler had a sleepover with Hannah with all the sexual / romantic / couple connotations that goes with it.
So strike 2  on the DATE front, this was a much needed get together between two adults that lived a pretty unique love experience where they were controlled ( contractually obligated) to NOT deal face to face with their remaining feelings for MONTHS because of a TV show.

Cocoasneeze wrote:Kristen Birth, who usually has good DWTS inside  info, tweeted, that the DWTS  cast announcement delay was to do with the mass shootings.

https://twitter.com/KristynBurtt/status/1158351937709854720?s=20

https://mobile.twitter.com/kristynburtt

As for Tyler dating other people too, good on him. That's what being single and dating around means. Going on dates. Jmho.

Again, this information was distorted to fit the wishes of many that maybe the both of them would do DWTS. maybe it’s true, maybe it’s not. Maybe it was and then changed after Tyler decided to live his life without asking permission from TPTB. It is still entirely possible that he does it, the ratings would be gold no matter what is going on between Hannah and him. We’ll have to wait a bit longer to find out.
In conclusion, I think Tyler got caught into a very publicly visible, paparazzi and tabloid ‘dating’ campaign and it’s escalated to the hilts because now with someone like GH, who has been known to involve the Paps to report her love life, whenever is needed to bring attention to her, for whatever narrative her PR team is looking for. And Tyler is not used to all these BTS layers that are part of her daily life. He is a very sought after eligible bachelor, and is getting thrown into the ring while still dealing with broken hearted feelings, hurt and confused about the last few weeks events. I mean it’s only been 3 WEEKS since the AFR.

JMHO

Couldn't agree more!

@Cocoasneeze OK. I see your point that he went on a TV show and is then viewed as a ‘public figure’...
BUT, please remind me of ANY Bach contestant that was waited on and followed in and out of private apartment buildings with supermodels and made news on ALL media outlets... not just the tabloids ones... Did Blake had news in 10 media outlets about his whereabouts or what about Peter Krause? Did he ever get front page news in entertainment magazine?
I’ll wait...