Bachelorette 15 - Hannah Brown - Media - SM - *Sleuthing Spoilers* #9

ReneeM wrote:Tyler says a majority of guys on Hannah’s season were scouted. His first semester of college was hard because he graduated early from high school to play spring football but couldn’t because he had to get shoulder surgery, he got kicked out of his English class for plagiarism (he was supposed to read a book, he didn’t). He was put in a theatre class, and 2 dance classes over summer. They discuss what abc food tours and what it’s about, there’s a funny story about Nick & the night Matt & Tyler cooked for the contest winners and Nick tagged along. They talk about being on the show and his popularity, he says he puts his pants on the same way as everyone else (I need to see it to believe it ). Nick mentions Tyler’s humility and Tyler responds that when you throw 3 interceptions agains FSU, you kinda have to be humble

He has so much personality too!!! What a cutie. You’re doing a great job, girl!

^^^^ thanks! Reading all the Recaps....ugh I have so much regret for Hannah.

Jason and Molly "went for coffee" and look where they are. I agree they will take it slow as they should but (imo) this is absolutely endgame. Hannah was GIDDY as f on GMA talking about Tyler.

So, today I am trying to catch up with everyone on this board. I missed you all yesterday, and I will be away from home today...sitting with my best friend from college who is going through chemo. (Prayers)
General thoughts:
Jed: Poor Jed. He is so caught up in his self. Was in no way prepared to be engaged. I had to leave the room, I was so embarrassed when he brought out his guitar at the proposal. Bless his immature heart. What he did to Hannah was horrible-unforgivable. But, I hope the rest of his life is not affected over this. He had no idea what he signed up for. On a positive note, in the state of young people these days with SM, maybe this will have a positive impact on the show moving forward.
Hannah: Best bachelorette ever. IMO. She has had her critics, on this board and elsewhere. But, I was married and pregnant at her age. She was able to articulate so clearly emotion and growth. In front of eyes of she has shown it all, unafraid. She has been so vulnerable and strong. I was amazed. I was thrown by those who criticized 4 x's in a windmill, clearly a joke. IMO
Tyler: If she had only seen the opening shot of him walking to that wall and putting his foot on that ledge, Hannah would have never chosen Jed. GEEZ! But, he is an amazing person deep down. I think they will go far!
Did he fly back to NYC with Hannah?

EXCITED for the future of Spotify!

and, on a crazy note, was looking through instagram yesterday and this showed up:
https://www.instagram.com/p/B0WBaagn14R/

Imagine my surprise when I realized Bucky Kennedy was a guy I dated in high school. ( He did not have a dad bod then-played football in college) Don't follow him - shock. But look how many people came to the fellowship time. Luke is going to be ok. Thank you Jed.

Katie (kate) gets brought up, he talks about how people have been giving her hell. He’s thankful and grateful for her as a true friend. He peck kissed her in 9th grade, he had a little crush, but that kiss was his one shot with her . Doesn’t seem like she was ever interested. He brags a little about her accomplishments as a teacher. Kate got a lot of dms from people questioning their relationship. Tyler thinks people have a hard time seeing a guy and girl as platonic friends. She gives great advice, and encourages men to have more female friends. She’s always really supportive of who he dates, he’s only dated Sarah (the ex) and Hannah.

ReneeM wrote:K I’m just gonna post as I go. He talks about his last relationship, his first serious relationship, he was with someone for a year and a half. She dumped him (deservedly so according to him) around the time he had to give up football for good after his shoulder injury. He takes full blame. Says after the ravens cut him 2 seasons ago, he was in the darkest place of his life mentally and she put a lot of time and effort into pulling him out of the hole he was in and he just took a lot from her without giving anything back, he wasn’t attentive that sort of thing. He had such a hard time with Hannah’s season because he saw so many guys taking from her without giving anything back and that would get him fired up because Hannah doesn’t deserve that and neither did his ex.

Wow. Tyler has an ex-girlfriend and she didn't come forward with tea? Interesting. I kid.

Oh Hannah Banana. I feel for her. She had this unicorn and picked a liar, cheater, and manipulator. And based on last night and even the People interview, she still holds firm that Jed  actually loved her. And that his lack of honesty is what did their relationship in. Which just blows my mind. Because while I think most would agree Hannah was totally into Jed, he was barely into her. Does she not see that watching it back? TPTB can edit out light-hearted moments but they can't edit OUT Jed's body language. I was also surprised there was no mention of his coming on for his career and his constant playing of guitar on TV.

Is she making excuses for Jed or is she making excuses for herself? Because IMO, there's more she needs to unpack about how she landed with Jed and ignored all his red flags. I get it, girl can only deal with so much - everything might still be too painful, fresh, etc... I hope she learned that she doesn't have to do all the work in a relationship.

I thought her BTS break-up and even on set discussion was very measured and deliberate. No Hannah Beast going for the jugular. She showed him WAY more grace than he deserved IMO. The worst part - for me - were the texts from the People magazine editor about the additional evidence (photos and texts) that they had about Jed's post-show behavior that did not indicate a loved-up and committed man. And that Hannah had them. Ugh.

Poor Hannah Banana. Still very proud of her for dumping his lying, cheating, manipulating @$$.

He says him and Hannah went through a lot together, he values and cherishes their friendship and relationship and doesn’t want to cut that off cold turkey because it didn’t work out. That’s someone he would hope to have a drink with and see what happens. It’s better now that the show’s over because there’s no pressure (lmaoooo honey you’ve got a big storm coming). He repeats that he’s excited to get the drink and talk because it’s been months, take it one day at a time, he says he was surprised she asked but it was inevitable. They just both need to have that time to talk and see each other and talk.

ReneeM wrote:He says him and Hannah went through a lot together, he values and cherishes their friendship and relationship and doesn’t want to cut that off cold turkey because it didn’t work out. That’s someone he would hope to have a drink with and see what happens. It’s better now that the show’s over because there’s no pressure (lmaoooo honey you’ve got a big storm coming). He repeats that he’s excited to get the drink and talk because it’s been months, take it one day at a time, he says he was surprised she asked but it was inevitable. They just both need to have that time to talk and see each other and talk.

I really appreciate this. I woke up bright and early just to come over here for the latest. What a precious guy!

Hannah looks adorable on GMA. She seems like a weight, dead weight-Jed, has been lifted.

They ask if he’s still doing construction, he actually just sold his first house. He’s got a little cash in his pocket, he can afford a drink. Nick says people will be buying Tyler’s drinks, Tyler says he has to buy Hannah a drink and he can afford that now . He confirms that he’s not technically a general contractor. He passed all the tests in December to be one but then his dad got sick so his focus wasn’t on filing for his license, it was on taking over for his dad. He went from having 3 projects to 15 it was busy, then he got accepted for the show February and his dad got out of the hospital late January so he was still focused on that. He did the first house and he was working on 2 more but had to pass those over to his dad when he went on the show. He felt guilty for leaving his dad, at the time his dad had just signed up for the biggest job of his career that would set him up for up for life, and Tyler really wanted to be there to help him, and the salary from that would’ve been good for Tyler too, but his dad pushed him to go on the show. He still felt guilty but the more time he spent with Hannah the more that guilt went away.

ReneeM wrote:They ask if he’s still doing construction, he actually just sold his first house. He’s got a little cash in his pocket, he can afford a drink. Nick says people will be buying Tyler’s drinks, Tyler says he has to buy Hannah a drink and he can afford that now . He confirms that he’s not technically a general contractor. He passed all the tests in December to be one but then his dad got sick so his focus wasn’t on filing for his license, it was on taking over for his dad. He went from having 3 projects to 15 it was busy, then he got accepted for the show February and his dad got out of the hospital late January so he was still focused on that. He did the first house and he was working on 2 more but had to pass those over to his dad when he went on the show. He felt guilty for leaving his dad, at the time his dad had just signed up for the biggest job of his career that would set him up for up for life, and Tyler really wanted to be there to help him, and the salary from that would’ve been good for Tyler too, but his dad pushed him to go on the show.

As if we couldn't love his dad anymore. What a sweet, sweet family.

Hawaii Girl wrote:

Says Cameron: “I cherish Hannah and value her and our friendship so much, but I don’t think it’s healthy for us to jump into anything right away. I think we need to be friends and see where life takes us. Whatever happens, happens.”

https://people.com/tv/bachelorette-hannah-brown-explains-why-she-chose-jed-wyatt-wont-rule-out-reconciliation-tyler-cameron/

I feel like this answer from Tyler rules out the 'they're already back together, this was all planned' theory. Idk, I don't see them getting together for real. I think Tyler fell in love with her in the bubble but moved on when she chose someone else (like every other F2 in the history of time) and doesn't really have an interest in taking her back. All JMO, but I think the ending of the finale was more about giving the audience the appearance of a happy ending but it won't actually go anywhere.

Well I could never see a reconciliation and them being together if she didn’t choose him first. They have IMO a huge uphill battle. I’m glad he is managing expectations for everyone watching.