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Post by Miyala Fri Jul 26, 2019 4:40 pm

I dont think her crying in the blue dress means that MTP was worse. I believe it was the second one when they always ask their parents abouth both guys. The mother must have then said something that made Hannah upset (I would guess something about Tyler being better for her). I believe Hannahs problem during FRC is chosing with her heart (Jed) or head (Tyler). She the imo chose with her heart. I do believe more time could have made her chose Tyler so she could very well want him now. The question is, what does he want

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Post by Guest Fri Jul 26, 2019 4:42 pm

Mommyof2 wrote:I don't care who is trolling or not and if there is a reunion of Hannah and Tyler, so be it.  However, I cannot for the life of me figure out how Jed is F2.  Does not compute.  laugh out loud   jmo

yeah. same.

She said she fell in love with Jed. The only guy she said that. If she ever told any of the other, for sure, IN MY OPINION, prods would have added it in their montage.


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Post by Tiggerlgh Fri Jul 26, 2019 4:42 pm

Mommyof2 wrote:
okkaayy wrote:
Mommyof2 wrote:At the bottom of the preview from E it says, "ABC is promoting the show as a history-making installment." Odd wording to me.  A switcheroo has already been done.  What could be "historic" for the show?  Makes you wonder.  

It hasn’t been done for the bachelorette, only the bachelor though.

Not sure that would qualify as historic.  It's been done before on the show.  scratch

They always over hype the finale. I don’t read much into it. I think it’s historic due to them braking up right away


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Post by Mommyof2 Fri Jul 26, 2019 4:45 pm

veg_out wrote:
Mommyof2 wrote:I don't care who is trolling or not and if there is a reunion of Hannah and Tyler, so be it.  However, I cannot for the life of me figure out how Jed is F2.  Does not compute.  laugh out loud   jmo

A possible explanation: The first spoiler of Tyler-is-F1 dropped and was accurate. The girlfriend scandal provided an opportunity to inject intrigue into the season, so they switched the spoiler. Based on CH's interview with Zima, it seems like they now see the show reaching beyond the episodes to include social media, spoilers, boards, media outlets; they have to somehow steer the narratives there, too.

The finale episode will tie things up: Either there will be conflict for Jed and Hannah to surmount such that Hannah goes against parental disapproval possibly to choose the guy she fell for early, or Hannah's conflict of finding a better love for her resolves in Tyler, the guy whose been there all along that she really didn't see fully until FSDs.

It really could go either way, IMO.

If Jed was F2 all along, I sure feel even more sorry for him.  He has remained quiet all this time and been publicly humiliated only to be the F2?  As I said elsewhere, "does not compute."  Jmo.


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Post by Mommyof2 Fri Jul 26, 2019 4:48 pm

Tiggerlgh wrote:
Mommyof2 wrote:
okkaayy wrote:
Mommyof2 wrote:At the bottom of the preview from E it says, "ABC is promoting the show as a history-making installment." Odd wording to me.  A switcheroo has already been done.  What could be "historic" for the show?  Makes you wonder.  

It hasn’t been done for the bachelorette, only the bachelor though.

Not sure that would qualify as historic.  It's been done before on the show.  scratch

They always over hype the finale.  I don’t read much into it.  I think it’s historic due to them braking up right away

Arie broke it off with Becca and ran back to Lauren. It's all been done before. They have never used the word historic to my recollection. Dramatic, sure...historic, no.
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Post by Doggoneit Fri Jul 26, 2019 4:48 pm

@Summerfun1980 wrote:
@ilovecarbs I think TPTB asking Tyler, if he is F2 and not with Hannah, to do all this trolling and him willingly going along for months is hard to believe. He has nothing better to do than help out a show and the woman who dumped him not spoil their ending? It's hard for me to believe TPTB or Hannah would even ask him to do all these things if it ended for Tyler and Hannah in greece or Tyler would want to go along. Has TPTB ever asked a F2 to act like this? Peter did not do all of this and he was the clear favorite over Bryan; everyone loved Dean more that season to and he wasn't asked to troll.
the show has some amount of control over their social media because everyone is required to post about the episodes. the "job" of the final two men is to make it seem like they could have won. peter kraus from rachel lindsey's season is a perfect example of this.

i'm not sure he was really in love with rachel, but many of his social media posts made it seem like they were together. only after the show ended did it make sense that he was imo told to muddy the waters about who was chosen. he was even liking engagement ring pictures before the finale iirc and you know he never wanted to propose. he was the second most popular bachelorette contestant. so i don't rule out that tyler has been asked to the same.

i still think the simpler explanation is that tannah like each other, aren't allowed to talk yet, and sending signals to each other until they can finally talk live for our amusement on tuesday.


Quite a few signals: Tyler Cameron Twitter:
https://twitter.com/TylerJCameron3/status/1154590838586036224

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6yDWUUWEHFw

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Post by Alanna Fri Jul 26, 2019 4:48 pm

Miyala wrote:I dont think her crying in the blue dress means that MTP was worse. I believe it was the second one when they always ask their parents abouth both guys. The mother must have then said something that made Hannah upset (I would guess something about Tyler being better for her). I believe Hannahs problem during FRC is chosing with her heart (Jed) or head (Tyler). She the imo chose with her heart. I do believe more time could have made her chose Tyler so she could very well want him now. The question is, what does he want
No way Tyler is head imo. She thinks he’s a fckboi!!!! Imo, it was between safety and a risk. Jed is the known (or so she thought) and Tyler is the unknown (different culture than southern gentleman, maybe different strain of religion, different look, different everything). She was just scared & overwhelmed imo.


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Post by avacaroline Fri Jul 26, 2019 4:49 pm

Eagle Eye wrote:https://www.eonline.com/news/1059793/it-s-the-bachelorette-finale-and-hannah-brown-is-as-concerned-confused-and-conflicted-as-ever

Has this been posted yet? Sorry I'm dumb and don't know how to embed a video.

Ugh I feel so, so bad for Mama Sue. Can you imagine how her heart must have just dropped when Hannah called her after the FRC to announce that she'd completely disregarded all advice and gone ahead and got engaged to the sketchy guy?  duh

Tell me if you’re hearing the same thing that I’m hearing..... Mama Sue says “I just want someone to love you the way you deserve to be loved and then Hannah says “I know. I promise he will”.
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Post by Tiggerlgh Fri Jul 26, 2019 4:51 pm

Mommyof2 wrote:
Tiggerlgh wrote:
Mommyof2 wrote:
okkaayy wrote:
Mommyof2 wrote:At the bottom of the preview from E it says, "ABC is promoting the show as a history-making installment." Odd wording to me.  A switcheroo has already been done.  What could be "historic" for the show?  Makes you wonder.  

It hasn’t been done for the bachelorette, only the bachelor though.

Not sure that would qualify as historic.  It's been done before on the show.  scratch

They always over hype the finale.  I don’t read much into it.  I think it’s historic due to them braking up right away

Arie broke it off with Becca and ran back to Lauren. It's all been done before.   They have never used the word historic to my recollection.  Dramatic, sure...historic, no.  

That was the Bachelor and there was a switch. This is different for the Bachelorette and I will be surprised if there is a switch, so being single at the end for the Bachelorette is historic. Imo


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Post by Mommyof2 Fri Jul 26, 2019 4:54 pm

Tiggerlgh wrote:
Mommyof2 wrote:
Tiggerlgh wrote:
Mommyof2 wrote:
okkaayy wrote:
Mommyof2 wrote:At the bottom of the preview from E it says, "ABC is promoting the show as a history-making installment." Odd wording to me.  A switcheroo has already been done.  What could be "historic" for the show?  Makes you wonder.  

It hasn’t been done for the bachelorette, only the bachelor though.

Not sure that would qualify as historic.  It's been done before on the show.  scratch

They always over hype the finale.  I don’t read much into it.  I think it’s historic due to them braking up right away

Arie broke it off with Becca and ran back to Lauren. It's all been done before.   They have never used the word historic to my recollection.  Dramatic, sure...historic, no.  

That was the Bachelor and there was a switch.  This is different for the Bachelorette and I will be surprised if there is a switch, so being single at the end for the Bachelorette is historic.  Imo

Ah, well that could be. Is Brad 1.0 the only other lead who ended up single?
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Post by avacaroline Fri Jul 26, 2019 4:55 pm

Mommyof2 wrote:
veg_out wrote:
Mommyof2 wrote:I don't care who is trolling or not and if there is a reunion of Hannah and Tyler, so be it.  However, I cannot for the life of me figure out how Jed is F2.  Does not compute.  laugh out loud   jmo

A possible explanation: The first spoiler of Tyler-is-F1 dropped and was accurate. The girlfriend scandal provided an opportunity to inject intrigue into the season, so they switched the spoiler. Based on CH's interview with Zima, it seems like they now see the show reaching beyond the episodes to include social media, spoilers, boards, media outlets; they have to somehow steer the narratives there, too.

The finale episode will tie things up: Either there will be conflict for Jed and Hannah to surmount such that Hannah goes against parental disapproval possibly to choose the guy she fell for early, or Hannah's conflict of finding a better love for her resolves in Tyler, the guy whose been there all along that she really didn't see fully until FSDs.

It really could go either way, IMO.

If Jed was F2 all along, I sure feel even more sorry for him.  He has remained quiet all this time and been publicly humiliated only to be the F2?  As I said elsewhere, "does not compute."  Jmo.

This was one of my speculations on why Garrett and Dylan are support of him.
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Post by veg_out Fri Jul 26, 2019 4:58 pm

Mommyof2 wrote:

If Jed was F2 all along, I sure feel even more sorry for him.  He has remained quiet all this time and been publicly humiliated only to be the F2?  As I said elsewhere, "does not compute."  Jmo.

Right, but isn't his redemption built right in? I'm 80/10/10 Jed vs. Tyler vs. switch.
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