Bachelorette 15 - Hannah Brown - Media - SM - *Sleuthing Spoilers* #8

North wrote:

sosleepy wrote:

Ash2214 wrote:My friend just informed that she read a little blurb from InTouch magazine about Hannah this morning. It was nothing earth shattering as it was a small paragraph. 

It was basically that the drama with her chosen guy started just days after getting engaged to him in Greece and more than anything, she was devastated that this is how the bachelorette journey went for her and that she couldn’t spot red flags because she was blinded by his charm. It didn’t state Jed as the winner, but it mentioned the drama surrounding her final choice and the whispers of his flirty ways while already engaged to her. It was basically just that everything came crashing down for them pretty much at the start.

I mean. Yeah. We could all probably write for In Touch, because if you read the signs like we all did (good job team) ... this is obviously what happened. I hate this happened to her, and Jed will forever be on my poop list and I hope the franchise never lets him back in any capacity.

I am so weirdly curious about when Jed shared his stripping past? Was it before or after the Hayley reveal? Not trying to shame Jed for his part-time work but it sure doesn't fit the Southern, Christian gentleman stereotype. Which just makes me laugh. This could fit Hannah's preference for "edgy/dirty." Normally I'd say Hannah could laugh this off but if it was coupled with other reveals, maybe not so much.

I can not wait for the ATFR for all the body language analysis.

One question: She was blinded by what charm?

albean99 wrote:I don’t know about that, @Chgohighlife. She was likely in "bubble" love with Jed but it appears that she got out of that pretty early on post-season. Her SM is the biggest indicator that she’s not getting back with him, IMO.

@albean
Hannah was duped so badly she had NO CHOICE. She was forced to either dump Jed or wear a dunce cap for the rest of her life so from me, she gets zero points for that decision. I agree she won’t go back to him IMO because she does have pride and she does not have the gumption to fight the entire universe to be with him, i don’t think. “Bubble Love” is a moot point. She chose Jed. All IMO.

The irony in all this is that Hannah live with her parents, before the season Tyler was living with his mother and Jed was financially supported by his dad to pursue his career in Nashville. Haley visibly is supported by her parents if she cannot afford everything on her own... and so far it still hearsay versus a guy who cannot defend himself and I am very uneasy with this. Everyone deserves a response when accused of something. Haley is using Jed to have her name out. She waited the right time. Anyway I already shared my point of view. Jed is indeed a big azz but she is no saint and from my perspective a fame whore too. Yucky people.

They all depended from their family.  So it is completely moot to accuse him to take advantage IMO

Chgohighlife wrote:

albean99 wrote:I don’t know about that, @Chgohighlife. She was likely in "bubble" love with Jed but it appears that she got out of that pretty early on post-season. Her SM is the biggest indicator that she’s not getting back with him, IMO.

@albean
Hannah was duped so badly she had NO CHOICE. She was forced to either dump Jed or wear a dunce cap for the rest of her life so from me, she gets zero points for that decision. I agree she won’t go back to him IMO because she does have pride and she does not have the gumption to fight the entire universe to be with him, i don’t think. “Bubble Love” is a moot point. She chose Jed. All IMO.

She had a choice just like Jillian did. They both had cheating dogs as their F1. Difference is Jillian stayed with Ed and Hannah dumper hers. She had a choice and made it. No one should ever let SM drive their lives/decisions

According to reddit Tyler had a helicopter ride with Andi today. It was sleuthed being her.

Tiggerlgh wrote:

Chgohighlife wrote:

albean99 wrote:I don’t know about that, @Chgohighlife. She was likely in "bubble" love with Jed but it appears that she got out of that pretty early on post-season. Her SM is the biggest indicator that she’s not getting back with him, IMO.

@albean
Hannah was duped so badly she had NO CHOICE. She was forced to either dump Jed or wear a dunce cap for the rest of her life so from me, she gets zero points for that decision. I agree she won’t go back to him IMO because she does have pride and she does not have the gumption to fight the entire universe to be with him, i don’t think. “Bubble Love” is a moot point. She chose Jed. All IMO.

She had a choice just like Jillian did.  They both had cheating dogs as their F1.  Difference is Jillian stayed with Ed and Hannah dumper hers.  She had a choice and made it.  No one should ever let SM drive their lives/decisions

Yes that ^^

But SM with Jillian was less crazy imo. And less fangirls on SM too

@Chgohighlife Exactly. I didn’t see any - very bland IMO

So now she’s only not with Jed because of the embarrassment of it all? Is that the new narrative? Jed broke a lot of trust from day one. Literally day one of their actual relationship, and the foundation of trust was already extremely faulty. It’s very hard to come back from that.

Jillian moved to Chicago for Ed and stayed with him for an entire year. A few months in... surely by about Christmas time, the dramz of that decision had settled and most people had moved right along to Jake and Vienna fiasco that was playing out on screen. If Hannah wanted to be with Jed, despite the “embarrassment” of it all, she would and could. People have short memories and forget. I mean, look at Garret and his unsavory likes? Most people don’t care anymore and it’s a non issue. The same could have been for Jed. So no, i don’t think that’s the reason Hannah and Jed aren’t together. Hannah broke up with Jed because he wasn’t honest with her during filming. He was sketchy coming home... and I bet there was also a lot of truth to the CMA shenanigans and I’m hopeful we get a little more insight on that at AFR too.

Trust is gone, especially that early in a relationship? It’s DOA. IMO

Miyala wrote:According to reddit Tyler had a helicopter ride with Andi today. It was sleuthed being her.

I saw him in a helicopter.. but didn’t notice Andi! Wow! He tag Peter and the pilot.asking who you would trust more!

Just looked at her story and she also makes a joke about peter the pilot flying over new york, posted about one hour ago

HEA wrote:The irony in all this is that Hannah live with her parents, before the season Tyler was living with his mother and Jed was financially supported by his dad to pursue his career in Nashville. Haley visibly is supported by her parents if she cannot afford everything on her own... and so far it still hearsay versus a guy who cannot defend himself and I am very uneasy with this. Everyone deserves a response when accused of something. Haley is using Jed to have her name out. She waited the right time. Anyway I already shared my point of view. Jed is indeed a big azz but she is no saint and from my perspective a fame whore too. Yucky people.

They all depended from their family.  So it is completely moot to accuse him to take advantage. IMO

Jed was financially supported by his parents in his hopeless pursuit of a music career.
Tyler moved back to his hometown and possibly lived with his mother to run the family business and give moral support to the rest of the family while his father suffered from a life-threatening disease.
Maybe it’s just me, but I see a slight difference.  
JMO

sosleepy wrote:

Ash2214 wrote:

ReneeM wrote:I avoided this topic yesterday because I don't want to seem delusional and yell "RS knows nothing!" when he actually might (especially because I pretty much agree that it's not happening) but I just think he's very good at reporting the facts that have happened, and not so good at predicting what might/will happen. I think fans are much better at that. That's how people predicted like every single breakup, Jason & Kaitlyn getting together etc. I remember when Rachel was gonna be on Kimmel to be announced as bachelorette, lots of us here thought it was obvious that's what was gonna happen, one of her sisters all but came out and said it on FB a few days before, and RS was adamant that it wasn't happening. My point is, I think people should base their beliefs of a potential H/T reunion on their own observations. Jmo.

Especially after reading his responses to the emails today, it like holy crap. Is this guy daft? Hannah, her mother, her brother, and family friends have been shading Jed left and right. I know he’s not saying she’s definitely going to take Jed back, but how can he even throw that out there as a minor possibility in his mind over her getting back together with Tyler? Has he not seen her recent interviews from the MTA where she learned that she no longer has to take crap from men? 

My God, read the room Steve

For real. All of this from both of you, Queens @ash2214 and @ReneeM.

Reading Steve even remotely hint at possible Jed reconciliation almost made me question everything he said about Tyler/Hannah. Almost. I’m not being an super daft here.

But seriously, the man is great at handing us the spoon fed information that gets handed to him. He is terrible, absolutely terrible at actually reading these people and predicting the future. Probably because he really doesn’t care. But omg. Unless Hannah, her entire family, and alllll of her family friends are in on some big fake out... Hannah and Jed is absolutely never gonna happen. Her social completely indicates that if she were to get back with anyone, it’s Tyler... and that is also corroborated by her family and friends who seem to indicate daily they would love that for her.  Again, it’s not gonna happen, imo. But to me it also raises questions about Steve’s intel and opinions in general to throw out something so preposterous as Hannah still being in love with and wanting to try again with Jed.

I mean.... the girl was seen out 4 days ago in a “Never Settle” hat. Come on, Stephen.  You have one job.  Do better than this.

To the bold about RS. This may very well be the most idiotic prediction, allusion or hinting he has ever written...he has lost his marbles to assume that because he has no intel of a reunion between Tyler and Hannah , she might consider getting back with Jed...in what universe doe this theory works?
Hannah has admitted to hover between her last final men and having a hard time to decide who to keep. She is a characteristic Libra who weigh things carefully, and slowly for our taste, but when her decision is made...man there is no point of return. We saw it painstakingly illustrated with Luke. Boy did she take the time to gather all HER OWN-evidence before having her ‘ clarity’ and kicking him to the curb as soon as she did. She didn’t even shed a tear as she said he had already broken her heart...
I suspect a similar scenario happened with Jed where she got some bits of information that disturbed her, needed more to make a decision and when enough proof was provided, she made her decision and cut it off COMPLETELY with him. I believe the CMA sighting reported was a heated confrontation with Jed, not a very happy SHV... There is only one person interested in saving his image here, and it’s Jed. It’s too late for Hannah and I believe we will see some very interesting Hannah beast footage and live interactions with Jed on the Finale.

JMO