Bachelorette 15 - Hannah Brown - July 15 - Epi 9 - *Sleuthing Spoilers*

@jojo47 imo she was going for a shock value to really get Luke to leave. He had hurt her and she was striking back.

Summerfun1980 wrote:t’s also odd that she think Tyler is the one most interested in just being there to sleep with her. I agree with Lucas15 that it was a test of some sorts but it seems weird to test him. He’s hot. Guy has no problem getting sex. And she’s been more sexually aggressive with him than he has with her. Remember she dragged them to the bed? By contrast, you have Peter who is incredibly sexually aggressive, couldn’t keep his hands above her waist on their date, and damn near trying to get her dress off. IMO it was obvious what he was there for, but she didn’t seem to question him at all. They also don’t appear to have much of an emotional connection. But no test for him.

I wonder if she slept with Peter and had regrets about it which is why she pumped the breaks on Tyler.

Tyler was pretty aggressive last week saying good bye after HTs pushing her in the car and laying on her making out. They have both had their moments that we have seen and we have no clue what wasn’t shown.

Doggoneit wrote:@jojo47 imo she was going for a shock value to really get Luke to leave.  He had hurt her and she was striking back.

You're probably absolutely right, but strike back with Jed. He's her F1!

@Summerfun1980 I fully believe she regretted having sex with Peter. I think she realized it was a mistake - and I think Tyler's FSD helped her realize she got nothing out of Peter's date - emotionally. It's pretty fascinating to watch Hannah go through this process.

@bleuberry Do we know the exact order of dates?

LoveDovez wrote:

bluwavz wrote:

@luke_parker777 time and time again jesus loved and ate with “sinners” who laughed. and time and time again he rebuked “saints” that judged. where do you fall Luke? #TheBachelorette https://t.co/FlhZ5JbOCA

— Hannah Brown (@AlabamaHannah) July 16, 2019

Don't agree with arguing over/about the bible and on Twitter of all places. ; (

IMO it seems like Hannah just can't or won't stop engaging in never-ending arguments with Luke.  Why does it even matter to her at this point what Luke thinks?  Neither of them are impressing me right now.  IMO they both need to get off of their high horses and to take a good hard look in the mirror at themselves.  And Hannah has especially disappointed me.  I hope someone (like Tyler's best friend Matt) will tell him to pump the brakes if he is considering a possible relationship with Hannah post show.  IMO she needs to use this time to dig down and find out what it is that has made her the way she is.  Why does she gravitate toward guys who make her work so hard in the relationships, and then believe that she can fix them?

And, can someone clarify something for me since I am not sure if I heard this correctly last night.  At the very end, right before Luke finally got into the limo, Hannah was telling him that she didn't owe him anything, specifically regarding whether or not she had had sex with any of the others guys.  And I thought that I heard her say to Luke that she didn't owe anything to the Lord, and she certainly did not owe him anything. Is that what she actually said?  My hearing isn't always the best.

Doggoneit wrote:@bleuberry Do we know the exact order of dates?

I think it was shown in the order filmed

Tiggerlgh wrote:

Summerfun1980 wrote:t’s also odd that she think Tyler is the one most interested in just being there to sleep with her. I agree with Lucas15 that it was a test of some sorts but it seems weird to test him. He’s hot. Guy has no problem getting sex. And she’s been more sexually aggressive with him than he has with her. Remember she dragged them to the bed? By contrast, you have Peter who is incredibly sexually aggressive, couldn’t keep his hands above her waist on their date, and damn near trying to get her dress off. IMO it was obvious what he was there for, but she didn’t seem to question him at all. They also don’t appear to have much of an emotional connection. But no test for him.

I wonder if she slept with Peter and had regrets about it which is why she pumped the breaks on Tyler.

Tyler was pretty aggressive  last week saying good bye after HTs pushing her in the car and laying on her making out.  They have both had their moments that we have seen and we have no clue what wasn’t shown.

He did not push her in the car. He got in there with her and once inside she got on top of him. And he still kept his hands on appropriate places, legs, face, hair. Peter pushed her on her back by the throat after sauna; also the moment I lost interest in him. And always has his hands on her butt. Tyler has never been as sexually aggressive as Peter from what we’ve seen. None of the men have. JMO.

jojo47 wrote:

Doggoneit wrote:@jojo47 imo she was going for a shock value to really get Luke to leave.  He had hurt her and she was striking back.

You're probably absolutely right, but strike back with Jed. He's her F1!

She was detached from sex with Peter. I can see her not using sex with the man she was in love with or thought she was in that manner.

Well, that was a crazy FS episode. If she was testing Tyler, then he passed so why go with Jed (who failed in my eyes)? Tyler listened to what she wanted and honored her wishes. Jed wouldn't stop questioning why she was keeping Luke and I'm still not sure why she thought he deserved her. On a side note, we didn't see any clips of them on the bed. Too steamy?  

I couldn't stop hearing Peter telling Hannah the same things (I'm sure) he told his previous gf. I still don't get her having sex with him when she didn't seem all that into him the rest of the time. I really hope he's not TB. I think the shine has been tarnished a bit off "perfect Peter", at least for me.

Luke, Luke, Luke. He just didn't get it.    I'm still not sure how she didn't have clarity before this but think the religious connection was big between them. I hate that this has become the season of Luke when we could have seen other guys (not Jed).

I'm just not sure that Tyler wants to be TB. No idea if they'll be together nor if they even should be but I'm also not sure that he's completely moved on. Whatever happens at the ATFR, I'm sure he'll be fine. Hannah as a lot to learn but she can start by watching herself with the wrong guys.  

Summerfun1980 wrote:

Tiggerlgh wrote:

Summerfun1980 wrote:t’s also odd that she think Tyler is the one most interested in just being there to sleep with her. I agree with Lucas15 that it was a test of some sorts but it seems weird to test him. He’s hot. Guy has no problem getting sex. And she’s been more sexually aggressive with him than he has with her. Remember she dragged them to the bed? By contrast, you have Peter who is incredibly sexually aggressive, couldn’t keep his hands above her waist on their date, and damn near trying to get her dress off. IMO it was obvious what he was there for, but she didn’t seem to question him at all. They also don’t appear to have much of an emotional connection. But no test for him.

I wonder if she slept with Peter and had regrets about it which is why she pumped the breaks on Tyler.

Tyler was pretty aggressive  last week saying good bye after HTs pushing her in the car and laying on her making out.  They have both had their moments that we have seen and we have no clue what wasn’t shown.

He did not push her in the car. He got in there with her and once inside she got on top of him.  And he still kept his hands on appropriate places, legs, face, hair.  Peter pushed her on her back by the throat after sauna; also the moment I lost interest in him.  And always has his hands on her butt.  Tyler has never been as sexually aggressive as Peter from what we’ve seen.  None of the men have. JMO.

She ended up on top of him but he was on top first. I don’t think she minded his or Peters advances so I am not saying they did anything wrong but both had aggressive moments imo. I wouldn’t have minded either either if I was her.

@Longhornfan She did not say that about the Lord.

Luke did make some bold statements to her last night. I do believe that he has a right to know, but he did it in way that was meant to elicit some shame from her. He could have accomplished finding the answer about that in their alone time. If he truly cared for her, he would have wanted to protect her from putting her on the spot like that.