Bachelorette 15 - Hannah Brown - General Discussion - *Sleuthing Spoilers* #3

mml060709 wrote:Have any of the promos or Chris Harrison interviews ever elude to the fact that "does this season end with Hannah single?". Because if they did, then no way Hannah ends up single.  The show would not want to put that idea out there if it was in going to be in fact true.

sdmom wrote:1. Picked Jed in Greece, unsure about engagement. Jed told her about Haley, unsure how much. That’s why Patrick the brother followed her immediately after returning to the states on May 13. That’s why she didn’t post “I’m back” at the airport, a la Rachel and Becca, and looked sad.
All Jmo.

If she picked Tyler.... I think I need to re-learn how to sleuth SHV! Sleuthers here keep every step they make, more so than past seasons. I have more confidence in this board than RS or any other spoiler sites.

2. Single

3. That’s the million $$ question: but I am here to so, my guess is both ask for a reconciliation! Then CH the grand master will come out : The Most Dramatic Season continues... who will Hannah pick? Tune in next week or tune in for BIP....
All Jmo

Regardless I hope all parties involved will learn and grow from their experiences, find joy and peace, move on to do greater things.

I am So Ready to Move On too!

avacaroline wrote:This is all speculation and the story that I’ve built in my head over the last few days. I could be completely off but I’ve enjoyed trying to put the pieces to the puzzle together and coming up with my guess in how it all plays out.

1) Dating Tyler. I believe the first spoiler was true. I think she heeded her family’s warning and she finally got it right and sent Jed packing. I think her behavior in her media rounds was due to the fact that she was exhausted and maybe dealing with some shame and embarrassment that she spent so much time making a mess of things  that she didn’t have the time to get to an engagement with Tyler.  There’s pressure as the bachelorette to end with an engagement and she “failed”.  RS first spoiler, Tyler’s Instagram post of “always accepting her rose” and “one step closer to your heart”, immediate follow of Sue Brown, Jed’s friends shocked to hear that he was engaged, are just some of the other things that have lead me to this opinion.

2) Dating Tyler. I think that they were masterful in hiding Hannah’s foot steps to NY. She went hidden but he didn’t. When the change in spoiler came out, they jumped on the opportunity to really hide the true ending. Maybe even had some extra incentive (DWTS) dangled in front of them to circle the wagons and go all in with not seeing each other at all in the home stretch. My guess is that Tyler was in LA for either the People shoot or DWTS talks. I think the rage that we felt from Hannah was that people were attacking her because they assumed that she was dug in with Jed and she couldn’t come out and defend herself. The judgment of her has been nasty and I admit that I have fallen in to it at times too. Her family’s reaction (Sue’s friends posts, etc) was because they might have confronted him with the initial rumors in Greece and he either lied to them or gave them a sliver of the truth. They went from having empathy that he was the one that got dumped to being enraged that he played and fooled them all.

3) Dating Tyler. The playlists and sm flirting are impossible to ignore. I’ve never seen a lead so isolated from friends and really the world. What are they working so hard to protect if there isn’t a love story at the end of all of this?

I’ve lost my damn mind but this is what I’m going with.

Alanna wrote:I’m interested in everyone’s temperature since the finale is tomorrow (!!!!) and so much feels unspoiled.

1. What do you think Hannah’s relationship status was immediately after leaving Greece?
2. What do you think Hannah’s relationship status is today?
3. What do you think Hannah’s relationship status will be Tuesday post afr?  

mbl wrote:

Alanna wrote:I’m interested in everyone’s temperature since the finale is tomorrow (!!!!) and so much feels unspoiled.

1. What do you think Hannah’s relationship status was immediately after leaving Greece?
2. What do you think Hannah’s relationship status is today?
3. What do you think Hannah’s relationship status will be Tuesday post afr?  

1.  I just listened to this Thursday's Bachelor Party podcast, with Lauren Zima interviewing CH.  It was interesting how definitive CH was in contrasting the difference between between Peter's and Jed's situations.  CH says he knows more about Peter because he did some digging into Calee's allegations about how Peter was cast on the show, so he's less worried and less intrigued because he knows some truths that either he or Peter will explain.  He goes on to say that with Jed, "I just don't know the situation at all".  He says other things that raise the possibility that Jed may never have discussed Haley with Hannah.

I understand that this could be standard CH BS, but if it's true that he knows about Peter but doesn't know about Jed, then I could see the following ending:  Hannah said goodbye to Tyler sometime before the FRC.  She prepares for the FRC with Jed all the while questioning her decision to send Tyler home.  She then travels to the FRC but can't go through with it with Jed and that's why she gets out of the car.  She returns to Tyler and they decide to take things slow/date, to do things the way they need to (like on their overnight date).

2.  Dating Tyler.

3.  Dating/engaged to Tyler.

notarose wrote:

mbl wrote:

Alanna wrote:I’m interested in everyone’s temperature since the finale is tomorrow (!!!!) and so much feels unspoiled.

1. What do you think Hannah’s relationship status was immediately after leaving Greece?
2. What do you think Hannah’s relationship status is today?
3. What do you think Hannah’s relationship status will be Tuesday post afr?  

1.  I just listened to this Thursday's Bachelor Party podcast, with Lauren Zima interviewing CH.  It was interesting how definitive CH was in contrasting the difference between between Peter's and Jed's situations.  CH says he knows more about Peter because he did some digging into Calee's allegations about how Peter was cast on the show, so he's less worried and less intrigued because he knows some truths that either he or Peter will explain.  He goes on to say that with Jed, "I just don't know the situation at all".  He says other things that raise the possibility that Jed may never have discussed Haley with Hannah.

I understand that this could be standard CH BS, but if it's true that he knows about Peter but doesn't know about Jed, then I could see the following ending:  Hannah said goodbye to Tyler sometime before the FRC.  She prepares for the FRC with Jed all the while questioning her decision to send Tyler home.  She then travels to the FRC but can't go through with it with Jed and that's why she gets out of the car.  She returns to Tyler and they decide to take things slow/date, to do things the way they need to (like on their overnight date).

2.  Dating Tyler.

3.  Dating/engaged to Tyler.

IMO what CH knows about Peter’s situation is how and when he was scouted and when he was cast. Also, he may know more as apparently CH and Peter’s family live in the same general vicinity of LA.
With Jed, his gf knew about Jed going on the show so CH wouldn’t know much else beyond what’s been made public by her unless some Nashville BN alumni know things and have talked with CH.

notarose wrote:

mbl wrote:

Alanna wrote:I’m interested in everyone’s temperature since the finale is tomorrow (!!!!) and so much feels unspoiled.

1. What do you think Hannah’s relationship status was immediately after leaving Greece?
2. What do you think Hannah’s relationship status is today?
3. What do you think Hannah’s relationship status will be Tuesday post afr?  

1.  I just listened to this Thursday's Bachelor Party podcast, with Lauren Zima interviewing CH.  It was interesting how definitive CH was in contrasting the difference between between Peter's and Jed's situations.  CH says he knows more about Peter because he did some digging into Calee's allegations about how Peter was cast on the show, so he's less worried and less intrigued because he knows some truths that either he or Peter will explain.  He goes on to say that with Jed, "I just don't know the situation at all".  He says other things that raise the possibility that Jed may never have discussed Haley with Hannah.

I understand that this could be standard CH BS, but if it's true that he knows about Peter but doesn't know about Jed, then I could see the following ending:  Hannah said goodbye to Tyler sometime before the FRC.  She prepares for the FRC with Jed all the while questioning her decision to send Tyler home.  She then travels to the FRC but can't go through with it with Jed and that's why she gets out of the car.  She returns to Tyler and they decide to take things slow/date, to do things the way they need to (like on their overnight date).

2.  Dating Tyler.

3.  Dating/engaged to Tyler.

IMO what CH knows about Peter’s situation is how and when he was scouted and when he was cast. Also, he may know more as apparently CH and Peter’s family live in the same general vicinity of LA.
With Jed, his gf knew about Jed going on the show so CH wouldn’t know much else beyond what’s been made public by her unless some Nashville BN alumni know things and have talked with CH.

grace8136 wrote:

notarose wrote:

mbl wrote:

Alanna wrote:I’m interested in everyone’s temperature since the finale is tomorrow (!!!!) and so much feels unspoiled.

1. What do you think Hannah’s relationship status was immediately after leaving Greece?
2. What do you think Hannah’s relationship status is today?
3. What do you think Hannah’s relationship status will be Tuesday post afr?  

1.  I just listened to this Thursday's Bachelor Party podcast, with Lauren Zima interviewing CH.  It was interesting how definitive CH was in contrasting the difference between between Peter's and Jed's situations.  CH says he knows more about Peter because he did some digging into Calee's allegations about how Peter was cast on the show, so he's less worried and less intrigued because he knows some truths that either he or Peter will explain.  He goes on to say that with Jed, "I just don't know the situation at all".  He says other things that raise the possibility that Jed may never have discussed Haley with Hannah.

I understand that this could be standard CH BS, but if it's true that he knows about Peter but doesn't know about Jed, then I could see the following ending:  Hannah said goodbye to Tyler sometime before the FRC.  She prepares for the FRC with Jed all the while questioning her decision to send Tyler home.  She then travels to the FRC but can't go through with it with Jed and that's why she gets out of the car.  She returns to Tyler and they decide to take things slow/date, to do things the way they need to (like on their overnight date).

2.  Dating Tyler.

3.  Dating/engaged to Tyler.

IMO what CH knows about Peter’s situation is how and when he was scouted and when he was cast. Also, he may know more as apparently CH and Peter’s family live in the same general vicinity of LA.
With Jed, his gf knew about Jed going on the show so CH wouldn’t know much else beyond what’s been made public by her unless some Nashville BN alumni know things and have talked with CH.

So now CH, Nick and JoJo have all spoken up for Peter. Maybe that points to Tyler being with Hannah because they may need Peter to be the bachelor?

Doggoneit wrote:@grace8136 That is a good point.  Heard Ashley I on her podcast say that she just did not see it as Mike as Bachelor.  I don't think he made a good first impression with her.  
I would like Peter.
Not saying I agree with her, but just reporting.