Carlin Sterritt - First Date Guy - Bachelorette Australia - Angie Kent - Season 5 - *Sleuthing Spoilers*

Storybook wrote:I really, really like Carlin, not because he is gorgeous looking but because he is gentle and sincere.  I agree he was honest in telling Angie his situation. The divorce papers have been filed and they don't take long to be finalised. I'm sure he would've been by the end of filming.
In a house full of "big" personalities Carlin comes across as calm and sensible. As has been said it is up to Angie to decide how she moves forward with Carlin knowing his past.

Dirty Street Pie wrote:...snipped
The other thing that I’ve heard about him, and don’t know if it’s been mentioned on here is that he’s been married before, and quite religious, and involved in Hillsong, which for our non Aussies is a big evangelical church. So he could possibly be saving himself for his next marriage?

Finch wrote:Sorry, still getting to grips with this latest revelation. @dirtystreetpie, or anyone, how do we know he is associated with Hillsong?

Dirty Street Pie wrote:@Finch, the Hillsong connection was mentioned on a Facebook group I'm on. And his Insta bio features a Christian cross emoji, and he follows Hillsong, HillsongWorship and Brian Houston (the lead Hillsong pastor)
I'm not a religious person, but I have worked with a few people who were involved in Hillsong, and they were all pretty full on about it, so I don't imagine you'd follow that many Hillsong accounts unless you were involved. From the impression I've had of Angie pre show I can't imagine a very religious person blending that well with her. I sense a very problematic hometown if Carlin comes from a religious family....

Oh yeah.  You have your little "disagreements".  You've got to; it's so stressful afterwards to stay...

 You don't fight, you just have talks and debates and... it's tough.  But no, like proper fights.  It's still early days.  you don't want to be fighting yet.

Bobette wrote:

Dirty Street Pie wrote:There’s an ITM outfit I’ll be looking out for moving forwards as evidence of reshoots to build Carlin’s storyline after the fact. It’s a black top with circles around the neck which Angie is wearing when she’s gushing about Carlin, and talking about pash rash.

Bobette wrote:@Dirty Street Pie I know the outfit you mean and I was thinking similar because her hair changes drastically between ITMs.  I'll screen cap it and post on the SC thread.

Dirty Street Pie wrote:Thanks @Bobette I need to rewatch to be sure, but there was something about the things she was saying when wearing that outfit that just struck me as being unnatural, and there to drive a particular narrative.

My hair often gets shorter by 5 cm in the space of 4 seconds too - doesn't yours @Dirty Street Pie?  Now the question is, which ones were shot later... Need to compare to how her hair was night 1 and at the FRC to determine best match.





Source: Tenplay

Bobette wrote: IMO the top lot (longer hair) was shot later, and I now really want to know what else she said in the earlier, shorter hair ITMs because I doubt it was good.  Or maybe they didn't bother to shoot much at the time because they weren't expecting him to be F1  

Dirty Street Pie wrote:Hahaha! I think maybe the shorter hair was the ITM at the time, and longer was later? If you look at her hair in the morning when she comes out of the tent the layers around her face look a bit shorter? And the longer hair looks more “polished” like she’s come in specially to record the ITM, rather than tacking it on at the end of a day of filming. I’m really bad at screencaps though, so am probably wrong

ETA I just read your response before I posted mine, and I see we’ve reached the same conclusion through different paths go us!

ideas_ideas wrote:So clever ladies!! That is DEF different hair IMO (fringe is longer/grown out but overall length is shorter, and styled better, in the top one), and also the horse in the background in front of the candle is in a different position, and to the left of it, the three-tiered candle stick thing is at a different angle.

Bobette wrote:Yep I was just comparing her hair to how it looks in the promo (which was filmed months after her date with Carlin) and it's much more even in length and in better condition, just like it is the top screen cap.  Definitely filmed much later IMO.





Source: Tenplay

So I think initially Angie was (understandably) unimpressed by the fact that he's married, and her original comments probably did not paint him in the best light so couldn't be used.  IMO the only aired ITMs that were actually filmed at the time were:

24 hour date
It's happening
I know I wanted to try something different, but the bloke's still bloody married

[Plus this face which speaks volumes IMO:]



Her hair above matches how it was at the time of the date IMO - damaged, frizzy ends and shorter around her face:




So IMO all this glowing, context-creating fluff she says in the long haired ITMs was recorded much later, potentially even post-FRC, when they realised they needed to overhaul/rework Carlin's edit if he was going to be a believable F1:

I'm going to try to unleash my romantic side
I got a very warm welcome, I'm not used to 19 or whatever guys going "eeehhhhyyyy when I walk in a room"
At this stage I'm finding it hard to find something I don't like about Carlin
He almost seems to good to be true
24 hours is a long time to spend with someone, even someone you know
We pull up to this beautiful farm like set up
I realised this year that I'm way more of a simpleton that I thought I was
I don't need someone that needs a lot
Carlin dropped a huge truth bomb in my face, right while I'm smashing my salmon
The divorce isn't even final, are you even ready
Sometimes we do crazy things when we're trying to get over someone
He can give me pash rash any day

Another thing is, there was a MASSIVE jump in time from mid afternoon when he dropped his "truth bomb", and we barely saw her reaction, to the night portion, when she was saying "so I've had a big think about it and... blah blah blah".  

So where was she doing the thinking?  Did she storm off and they had to coax her back hours later to finish the scene?  Why didn't we see any more of their afternoon conversation?  I'm sure she had LOTS of questions.  It's all very suss IMO.

And furthermore!  The paps got pics of Angie looking upset at the RC when Wazza & Jess left and multiple sources (including paps) said she was threatening to walk out.  Why would she have done that if her overnight with Carlin went so well...?

Just Looking wrote:Just wondering - why do people think that Carlin is F1.  Yes, they had an amazing kiss and obviously there’s chemistry, but it’s such early days.

Just Looking wrote:Just wondering - why do people think that Carlin is F1.  Yes, they had an amazing kiss and obviously there’s chemistry, but it’s such early days.