Bachelorette 15 - Hannah Brown - Media - SM - *Sleuthing Spoilers* #5

Longhornfan wrote:

sosleepy wrote:

GuardianAngel wrote:

Mommyof2 wrote:Pegged her from day one.      

You and me both. I should start a thread "Version's of Haley's story"

I have two already, if it changes again, I'll post them.

But this is what I don’t get. Who gives a fig what Haley’s motivations are? Does that make what Jed did to her any better? Does that automatically excuse Jed for leading her on, sending her loved up text messages as he was boarding the plane, lying about it in the house to the other men, to Hannah’s face? Taking valuable time away from other men with purer intentions? To letting someone get engaged to him on a foundation of lies? To leaving behind someone he claimed to love,  while he was getting engaged to someone else? To ghosting the girl when he returned home? Does none of that matter just because you perceive Haley to be milking this?

For me, I don’t think so. I don’t give a flip what Haley’s motivations are. I don’t even care if she really did do this all for fame. Like who cares? It still all proves that Jed is absolute manipulative scum, regardless. If you treat people well, live a sincere and thoughtful life ... you won’t leave behind hurt and angry people to sell you out so hard. It’s as simple as that.

I personally don't care what's motivating Haley either, but if they are two birds of a feather, then that still doesn't excuse him.  lMO he lied to and deceived both Hannah and Haley.  So, if this helps her singing career, so be it.  I actually hope that she drags this out for as long as possible and releases even more texts and whatever else she has - right up until the day of the FRC episode.  Jed obviously hasn't had to deal with a woman who can stand toe-to-toe with him, and he must have sorely underestimated Haley IMO.  Deliberately ghosting her for 2 weeks after getting back to Nashville was a bad move on his part.

And this thing about Haley not picking up the phone when Jed finally called her?  Maybe she decided to let it go to voicemail so that he would leave her a message with some kind of explanation.  Or why didn't he just go to her apartment and have that conversation with her - face to face?  IMO that would have been the right thing to do.  Didn't she at least deserve that?

Mommyof2 wrote:

Longhornfan wrote:

sosleepy wrote:

GuardianAngel wrote:

Mommyof2 wrote:Pegged her from day one.      

You and me both. I should start a thread "Version's of Haley's story"

I have two already, if it changes again, I'll post them.

But this is what I don’t get. Who gives a fig what Haley’s motivations are? Does that make what Jed did to her any better? Does that automatically excuse Jed for leading her on, sending her loved up text messages as he was boarding the plane, lying about it in the house to the other men, to Hannah’s face? Taking valuable time away from other men with purer intentions? To letting someone get engaged to him on a foundation of lies? To leaving behind someone he claimed to love,  while he was getting engaged to someone else? To ghosting the girl when he returned home? Does none of that matter just because you perceive Haley to be milking this?

For me, I don’t think so. I don’t give a flip what Haley’s motivations are. I don’t even care if she really did do this all for fame. Like who cares? It still all proves that Jed is absolute manipulative scum, regardless. If you treat people well, live a sincere and thoughtful life ... you won’t leave behind hurt and angry people to sell you out so hard. It’s as simple as that.

I personally don't care what's motivating Haley either, but if they are two birds of a feather, then that still doesn't excuse him.  lMO he lied to and deceived both Hannah and Haley.  So, if this helps her singing career, so be it.  I actually hope that she drags this out for as long as possible and releases even more texts and whatever else she has - right up until the day of the FRC episode.  Jed obviously hasn't had to deal with a woman who can stand toe-to-toe with him, and he must have sorely underestimated Haley IMO.  Deliberately ghosting her for 2 weeks after getting back to Nashville was a bad move on his part.

And this thing about Haley not picking up the phone when Jed finally called her?  Maybe she decided to let it go to voicemail so that he would leave her a message with some kind of explanation.  Or why didn't he just go to her apartment and have that conversation with her - face to face?  IMO that would have been the right thing to do.  Didn't she at least deserve that?

Even though Jed didn't handle it in the best way, I believe his hands were tied.  If he went to Haley and said I need to break our relationship off, she would wonder why.  What could he say?  I fell for Hannah and we are engaged now?  No.  It's against his contract with the show.  He really can't tell her much and if he did tell her what happened on the show, then she could go to the tabloids to tell her story AND spill the beans that he is the F1.  I think that's why he said (according to her) that everything is happening so fast.  Jmo.

GuardianAngel wrote:@sdmom I did the same thing. I think perhaps it was done on one of his IG's which he later changed? IDK

@hotsauceinmybag3

Then, he returned from the show and didn’t call her for two weeks. When he did call, she didn’t answer. “At that point I’m like, ‘OK, you’ve been home for two weeks. You have no explanation for me. What are you going to say that’s going to make me feel better or that’s going to change any of this?’” she told Us.The exes ran into each other earlier this month at CMA Fest, as they both played sets on the same day. “He came up after, and his family was there, which was tough, because I’ve seen his family. These are people that I’ve met and I love. Everything in me wanted to speak to them, and I couldn’t. But anyway, he walked up and just basically said, ‘Y’all sounded great,’” she recalled. He then asked if she was OK. “I’m standing in a group of people. I can’t really just say, ‘No, I’m devastated.’ So I was like, ‘Yeah, I’m fine. How are you?’ And he said, ‘It’s weird … everything that’s happening, and it’s all happening so quickly.’ And in my brain, I’m like, ‘Is he talking about Spain right now? Is he talking about being on this show?’ That’s what’s weird?”
https://www.usmagazine.com/entertainment/news/the-bachelorette-jeds-ex-details-heartbreak-reunion/

Recently, Stevens was “baffled” when she learned that Wyatt had returned home to Nashville without calling her, and finally confronted him when she ran into him at a music venue, this month. She says Wyatt offered little explanation as to what happened.

“He said, ‘Hey how have you been?’ and I said, ‘How do you think I’ve been?’” she recalls. “I asked him, ‘You didn’t think I deserved a phone call?’ And he said, ‘I didn’t know what to say.’” They never spoke again about their relationship.

https://people.com/tv/bachelorette-jed-wyatts-allegedly-had-girlfriend/

sdmom wrote:Anyway, I don’t want to rehash Garrett’s (IMO) IG likes debacle, but something interesting from the same article:  The comment from Yrigoyen, one of the initial 28 contestants on the new season of the long-running ABC reality franchise, is unexpected. Typically, contestants on The Bachelor and The Bachelorette do not address anything related to the season until they are eliminated. ABC and the show's producer Warner Bros. have so far declined to comment on the story.

Goldie2 wrote:https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RVG8DBtpAZQ

I am not a Rachel fan, but love her new hair cut!
Here is the interview. It addresses the gf  rumors directly.
Absolutely no way this was not scripted and approved by ABC/ TPTB.