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Post by Astrobach Fri Jun 28, 2019 4:26 am

That SMILE is more than breadcrumbs, gurl! laugh out loud that’s a piece of cake... no sorry it’s ice cream, my bad... giggling

Let’s check out his next favorite songs... bet you can find some hope there!
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Post by LeapofFaith Fri Jun 28, 2019 5:01 am

Astrobach wrote:That SMILE is more than breadcrumbs, gurl! laugh out loud that’s a piece of cake... no sorry it’s ice  cream, my bad... giggling

Let’s check out his next favorite songs... bet you can find some hope there!

His playlist is life atm Hugesmile
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Post by Guest Fri Jun 28, 2019 5:21 am

Robert Mills: “I think fans are really going to fall in love with Jed.” laugh out loud laugh out loud laugh out loud 

Funniest joke of the year IMO

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Post by Astrobach Fri Jun 28, 2019 5:47 am

Proof enough for me that THEY didn’t expect this turn of event... he DIDNT HAVE to say anything about Jed... that is just to push the F1 story...because Luke was the front runner in a lot of people’s minds. When was this posted btw?
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Post by Guest Fri Jun 28, 2019 5:57 am

As much as TPTB are willing to stop at nothing to get their ratings, I doubt any of this is in any way ‚orchestrated‘. Firstly, as they say ‚You can‘t make that s*it up“, and if they had any info on Jed before or during filming they would‘ve made sure to include it in the show right away. That‘s their MO, they don‘t „lay down the groundwork“ only to let the stuff hit the fan afterwards. If the whole magnitude of Jed‘s dating history was known to them prior - it would‘ve been on the show.

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Post by suzq Fri Jun 28, 2019 6:00 am

@Astrobach Chris Harrison said the same thing as Robert Mills about how everyone would fall in love Jed at the beginning of the season. I did not feel that way then nor do I now. I bet they regret having said that before. These findings about Jed were not what they predicted would be happening. JMO.

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Post by misslurking Fri Jun 28, 2019 6:13 am

Yeah there is no way they knew any of it while filming. Jed was getting an amazing edit before poop hit the fan. IMO they are going to drag him to the fullest and make him look bad. I am positive they never intentionally wanted this Jed drama to play out the way it did. It really just happened to be that Hayley wanted to go public with her story and People mag. was asked to cover it. Jed did not come clean to Hannah while filming. 100%.


I want you in your highs and I want you in your lows, I'll take whatever I can get. I want to be the man next to you at the end of this- Tyler Joseph Cameron
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Post by Guest Fri Jun 28, 2019 6:25 am

They‘re not in a good spot with this, because people have zero interest in the next 4 episodes, they just want to skip till the ATFR. They already gave out what happens with Luke, so that‘s going to be mildly interesting when it airs, then F2 dates and a proposal that‘s giving Arie‘s proposal to Becca a run for its money as the most cringey final episode footage Ever. Yes, they love the attention, but they prefer the drama happens on the TV screen and right now the show is a bore and all the drama is on SM. It‘s hard to keep up with RL nowadays when you pre-tape your show.

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Post by Astrobach Fri Jun 28, 2019 6:40 am

@suzq and @misslurking ITA with both of you. I said it before but there is no way they knew a lot of stuff about Jed. I was reviewing my thoughts and notes about that. Remember when Jed was so ‘ honest ‘ with Hannah when he acknowledged that he came in to be on this big platform and because I love love ....but that now, everything was changed... etc... well No. 1 his management company may have been the one presenting the application, BUT I am convinced that HE was the one begging them for some more exposure and after talking to his good buddies, Luke and James, he had a plan... that he executed as well as he could, charmed the pants off of everyone at auditions and flew under the radar with the personal question, because, well management and lying. He is being very guarded at the am& G but he has his weapon of deception with him, his GEETARRR. ( in his girlfriend’s case, no less  giggling ) to serenade Hannah. Who
gobbles it up...
No. 2. Made sure he was on the good side of the guys, and against the resident villain. Made sure he was vocal about it.
No. 3. I believe that the reasons why they knew and did a big hoopla with Scott and his dramatic exit was that indeed, someone had tipped off Demi and she relayed the info to probably CH, maybe producers. She is one to insert herself and she’s best buddies with Hannah. They have had a few very bad apples in casting recently ( cue Lincoln, Leo) and are trying to repair their image, and showing they are more careful and more inclusive of diversity.
Similarly, Tyler G. Was tipped off by someone. Hannah had a 1on 1 with this guy...and was made invisible right after, come on. Why would they keep Jed if they had known what he was up to . Not logical. I sincerely think he fooled them all until the news came from People that Haley had a story...which came much later and prompted them to do a stupid recap story to spend time reformatting their second half of the season.

As usual my own speculative conclusions and opinions.

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Post by Lucas15 Fri Jun 28, 2019 6:50 am

Astrobach wrote:To the bolded: Is this a speculation or based on legal knowledge of their contract? I may be naive but don’t think they would purposely ask her to choose the WRONG person, just for ratings sake. I hope, that their role doesn’t go to this degree of control. I can understand them PUSHING for an engagement even if there is hesitation or choosing someone no matter what, but we’ve seen that even those scenarios played out before, with Brad and Arie for instance. I am sure they are milking any drama that come their way but they have proven to be less than perceptive in their choices of contestants, including not vetting thoroughly many contestants.
I for one, do not believe for a second that they knew about Jed and his double timing until it’s was already too late ( meaning when filming was DONE) and that’s the reason why they pull a recap episode, mainly to re-edit Jed and Tyler’s presence on the screen.
JMO

To the best of my knowledge, there is nothing in the contract that allows them to force someone to do something like this - but that's not how they work. Someone forced, or someone "in on it" is going have to act or they will look very fake - and the cast is not professional actors (though some are better than others). Rather they use mind games and techniques right out of the books written on interrogation - the same techniques that have gotten people to admit to crimes they did not commit - just to get what they want.

As to using these techniques to get leads to pick the wrong person just for ratings ... it saddens me to say this but IMO they have done precisely that in the past. IMO they have also used bribery, threats, and lies to get someone to do what they want - stuff that those people would probably never do if left on their own.
JMHO

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Post by Billysmom Fri Jun 28, 2019 7:55 am

Astrobach wrote:
Jolena wrote:
Pattycake92 wrote:If Hannah is done with Jed, how tempted would she be to see Tyler? She could barely keep her hands off of him during their time on the show. There is no way I could deny that temptation but then again, I would never have sent him home in the first place.

I doubt very much she wanted to. I think she was guided by TPTB and not in her best interest. There must be something in their contract that states if the producers want and see a better edit & ending for ratings then the lead will abide by it as long as in the end she gets her/his happy ending. Just a thought but I wouldn't be surprised that it's in the contract somewhere with all the switches and drama filled endings we have seen . Jason/Melissa,Molly , Desiree/Chris,Brooks, Arie /Becca/Lauren just to name a few. JMO

To the bolded: Is this a speculation or based on legal knowledge of their contract? I may be naive but don’t think they would purposely ask her to choose the WRONG person, just for ratings sake. I hope, that their role doesn’t go to this degree of control. I can understand them PUSHING for an engagement even if there is hesitation or choosing someone no matter what, but we’ve seen that even those scenarios played out before, with Brad and Arie for instance. I am sure they are milking any drama that come their way but they have proven to be less than perceptive in their choices of contestants, including not vetting thoroughly many contestants.
I for one, do not believe for a second that they knew about Jed and his double timing until it’s was already too late ( meaning when filming was DONE) and that’s the reason why they pull a recap episode, mainly to re-edit Jed and Tyler’s presence on the screen.
JMO
I agree. I don't think Hannah would have sold her soul to tptb .... She has too much consideration for others, as demonstrated in her holding on to Luke as long as she did. Jmo
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Post by mjason Fri Jun 28, 2019 9:42 am

So over the last 48 hours Tyler has followed Tia, Nick V and Tanner on Instagram. One thing they all have in common? They have all publicly spoken out against Jed and his behavior/what is being said about him.
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