Re: Bachelorette 15 - Hannah Brown - Media - SM - *Sleuthing Spoilers* #4

by whit90 Sat Jun 22, 2019 8:11 pm

misslurking wrote:@Aunties_Love ok

Everything is everyone's own opinion. No need to constantly try and find faults in others opinions to prove own opinion as more valid. All the opinions can co-exist without going against facts. Tyler IS the most popular contestant on this season. All the facts have been presented to you and you have went on to ignore them so you are welcome to stick to what you believe about the apparent lack of Tyler fandom and I am allowed to make my own case based on my knowledge.

I hope you understand.

I understand but you say things that are not facts so that is why we are asked to use IMO or JMO I am not a Tyler fan but do think he is a good guy. He is just not my cup of tea when it comes to looks. Yes he is doing great things with charities but he is not the only one that does. Some contestants do it and don’t promote it. I understand him promoting it and he did a great job. Just don’t think other contestants aren’t using their platform to do good too. JMO

by whit90 Sat Jun 22, 2019 8:14 pm

Aunties_Love wrote:
misslurking wrote:@Aunties_Love ok

Everything is everyone's own opinion. No need to constantly try and find faults in others opinions to prove own opinion as more valid. All the opinions can co-exist without going against facts. Tyler IS the most popular contestant on this season. All the facts have been presented to you and you have went on to ignore them so you are welcome to stick to what you believe about the apparent lack of Tyler fandom and I am allowed to make my own case based on my knowledge.

I hope you understand.
WOW, I haven't ignored anything. Facts are, Peter is more popular in the next season Bachelor gig polls. That is all that I have given. Tyler's fandom or lack there of is yet to be proven, IMO. As far as trying to make others worse to one up your fave, I think that is happening a ton for Tyler too. It seems that when it is posted how I feel about Peter being the next bach and possibilities of that, lots more comment on how it won't happen.

Like I said before, maybe I should just crawl back under my rock(I stayed there for a long time while this hoopla was happening but when I come out to say stuff, IMO, been made to feel that I am wrong) cause right now that's how I am feeling when it comes to posting my thoughts and opinions here. I did a lot pre-season and that was fun sleuthing but now that the spoiler has changed, it seems that sleuthing is out the window and only posting views on how how bad Jed is(whether there is proof or not) how Peter won't get the next season gig(facts that aren't showing up why that won't happen) and Tyler being great or the next leader is all that seems to be fine. I am sorry but to me, it's unfair to others here that want to sleuth out more as we have always said on this forum how sleuthing never stops, yet, the threads are full of Tyler and how he is the greatest. Very disheartening.

Sorry mods if I have taken this too far but IMO, a lot of people that want to say something aren't cause it seems to do no good but rile up the board. IMO that's good for no one, but on the other hand, shouldn't their opinions matter too??

I am signing off for a bit and taking a self appointed time out. Night All.....

by smg2587 Sat Jun 22, 2019 8:32 pm

@Aunties_Love For me can you please link one of these polls. That is all I ask I just want to see one of these poll that Peter is winning. I just haven't seen one that says that.

by Abda81864 Sat Jun 22, 2019 8:38 pm

I’m not understanding why it’s an issue when people favor Tyler over another contestant or vice versa. I think people are entitled to like/hate Jed, Tyler, Peter, Mike, or any other contestant. That’s what makes great discussions, having different opinions and agreeing to disagree.

by Guest Sat Jun 22, 2019 8:44 pm

whit90 wrote:
misslurking wrote:@Aunties_Love ok

Everything is everyone's own opinion. No need to constantly try and find faults in others opinions to prove own opinion as more valid. All the opinions can co-exist without going against facts. Tyler IS the most popular contestant on this season. All the facts have been presented to you and you have went on to ignore them so you are welcome to stick to what you believe about the apparent lack of Tyler fandom and I am allowed to make my own case based on my knowledge.

I hope you understand.

I understand but you say things that are not facts so that is why we are asked to use IMO or JMO I am not a Tyler fan but do think he is a good guy. He is just not my cup of tea when it comes to looks. Yes he is doing great things with charities but he is not the only one that does. Some contestants do it and don’t promote it. I understand him promoting it and he did a great job. Just don’t think other contestants aren’t using their platform to do good too. JMO

once upon a time we just coud not write any opinion on this forum without adding it. Unless it is proof fact such interview from the person him/herself (and even then there is always 2 sides of a story) then nobody can judge another member's opinion by questionning or stating opinion as fact and only truth. This "tyler war" is ridiculous IN MY OPINION. It is not Tyler against the whole world. This is a forum and everyone should have fun, but right now those sarcastic comments are playing on nerves. IN MY OPINION nobody should be targetted because this person think different. To be suggested to go to the FAN thread because we express a different opinion and reading and/or being the target of these over the top responses are disturbing and totally not acceptable IN MY OPINION. At times, IN MY OPINION, it feels like bullying... there, I said it!

@guardianangel many members complained of the agressive and sarcastic manner this season has become. Your input is needed please.

by LynnTa Sat Jun 22, 2019 9:02 pm

Having a 25 year old Bachelor is actually off putting to me--unless this show has become just another dating game show ! I am assuming that the girls' ages would be 18-24 years old and I doubt that they are ready for marriage. I have nothing against young people finding love -btw---I would enjoy more watching mature people who are seriously ready for marriage. Well, I guess its all about the viewership numbers!
AJMO

by Guest Sat Jun 22, 2019 9:09 pm

LynnTa wrote:Having a 25 year old Bachelor is actually off putting to me--unless this show has become just another dating game show ! I am assuming that the girls' ages would be 18-24 years old and I doubt that they are ready for marriage. I have nothing against young people finding love -btw---I would enjoy more watching mature people who are seriously ready for marriage. Well, I guess its all about the viewership numbers!
AJMO

I would agree but each person is different. Sometimes a 20 years old is way more mature than a 30 years old. I was 21 when I met my 38 years old husband. Like Hannah said so eloquently: nobody knows what she went thru, what made her, her.

But probably because I am over 50, I do see young people younger and less ready to settle down when I see their IG (aka partying, drinking etc).

I am surprised but I do like Hannah.

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by Astrobach Sat Jun 22, 2019 9:10 pm

And again, I’m asking what happened to the post I just made responding, very politely, respectfully to @Auties _Love about a few points she made. Are we not allowed to post opinions and express our point of view anymore ?
I’m truly not understanding what is going on...do I rewrite my post to show how devoid of agressivity or sarcasm it was? Who can tell me ? TYIA

by Guest Sat Jun 22, 2019 9:17 pm

I feel as though the convos have stalled because there seems to be nothing to sleuth at the moment, no new bits of information coming out, and it's kinda frustrating to deal with the info we have received about Hannah choosing someone who evidence seems to imply he's a cheater.

The thing is, I've been following all the clues and I have not seen anything that confirms Jed is F1. I don't trust RS, and from what I can tell, his word is all we have to go on. Tptb may have sent LZ out to pump up Jed's stature, or not. And if they did, it could be a ploy to misdirect the fans. That's the thing, we just don't know. If this is the work of the new production team, all i can say is 'well done. You have us all frazzled.' imo.

by whit90 Sat Jun 22, 2019 9:24 pm

Astrobach wrote:And again, I’m asking what happened to the post I just made responding, very politely, respectfully to @Auties _Love about a few points she made. Are we not allowed to post opinions and express our point of view anymore ?
I’m truly not understanding what is going on...do I rewrite my post to show how devoid of agressivity or sarcasm it was? Who can tell me ? TYIA

Is it not there anymore ? If it isn’t someone probably didn’t like it and reported it . I guess try again and see what happens. I know the Aunties - Love said she was signing off ! JMO

by Bachhh022 Sat Jun 22, 2019 9:33 pm

Tyler is def the most popular contestant of the season but that doesnt necessarily mean he's a shoe in for bachelor. Last season, both Caelynn and Hannah G had more followers that Hannah B and she was still named ette. Chris Harrison said that they basically already know who the next bachelor is going to be in an interview but it's anyones guess whether its Mike, Peter or Tyler. Any of the 3 of them are possible IMO and i wouldnt be shocked by any of them being announced.

by Astrobach Sat Jun 22, 2019 9:34 pm

So now, not liking a post gets it removed...? I’m having a hard time with that. There are plenty of instances where we may not like someone’s post but unless there is overt insult or personal attack, I don’t understand how it should be removed. All many of us ask is that we don’t confuse personal opinions with facts and there is a difference. I see some posters that regurgitate the same twisted non fact base stuff and we then get pages of people who go in and try to correct their posts instead of advancing the real discussion .
This is MY OPINION.

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