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Post by misslurking Mon Jun 17, 2019 12:47 am

sosleepy wrote:
misslurking wrote:Guys, the last time RS was wrong untill mid filming (and untill end) was with Des and Brooks. I wasn't around that time watching it live and I honestly just watched the last 3 episodes.


A. Want to ask did Brooks also get F1ish edit at that time ?
B. Did Chris get F1 edit ?
I am trying to figure out did the producers try and bank on the wrong spoilers to make the show as misleading as possible ?

The edit Tyler and Jed are getting gives me confidence in Tyler as F1 and the SM is making me question it. Only because even if we ignore both Jed and Hannah being silent since over 24 hours and also let the throwback similar stories for father's day chalk up to coincidence. We still never get to see Tyler gone off SM altogether as often as Jed does either ?

Hannah would want to start defending/signalling it Jed since dont lead start getting angsty that she is getting shipped for with the F2 than her actual man ? This was one of the reasons that we could see Tyler was F1 as Hannah would clearly have a different reaction when his name would come up and have the same face when talking about other guys ?.

This season post show behaviour makes no sense !?! Trying to find a pattern with the edit atleast ..

From what I recall (and please keep in mind I was a pretty passive DGAF viewer that season), the show definitely was hyper aware of the spoilers, and damn near giddy about them the closer they got to finale still foiled. I distinctly remember Chris Harrison teasing the audience at AFR that “Brooks could come back!” As for the edit... I wasn’t watching that closely. But I think if you did follow along, and in hindsight, clearly it was Chris. For all of Des going on and on about how much she loved Brooks (she would straight up tell CH in interviews - that Brooks was the one! Which in hindsight should have been a major hint he wasn’t)... Brooks never really reciprocated. He was kind of like Jed in that regard. He just wasn’t that into her, he was increasingly nervous about the process, and it was clear he was checking further and further out as the show progressed. Meanwhile, literally no one was taking Chris seriously, but if you go back and watch that season, every date with him there is a natural, calm chemistry that’s slowly building .... he is in contrast super secure with his feelings and becomes more so, while Brooks simultaneously becomes more anxious. Truly, hindsight  with that season it’s so obvious Chris is F1. But the spoilers really messed with people. Like really bad messed with people. I remember literally it took until Chris was down on one knee for it to dawn on me RS had been duped and Brooks wasn’t coming back. It was actually a pretty amazing moment for the show, and I was kinda freaking out. But I also wasn’t a Brooks/Des fan and was the opposite of invested in her journey. That must have really, REALLY sucked for those fans and I have a new found respect for them. That blows.

Back to Hannah. We’ve only seen 5 episodes, but to this point to me, it’s reversed. The edit, the dates, Hannah’s interactions... they all point to Tyler to me. Jed is so checked out and not into her - he’s basically Brooks. I feel like the vibe will drastically have to change between those two for me to believe it. And even then, I’m not gonna ship it. If Tyler is bounced, I’m bouncing too. laugh out loud



Wow ! So technically shouldn't the show start taking advantage of the wrong spoilers by RS and make Jed the less likely choice. So far either this is just me but every episode since ep2 they gave Tyler a small but noteable edit. They give him the F1 background music. They don't tease him for promos but instead heavily promote Jed as the clear cut front runner. They already have Hannah openly telling what seems like him that she is falling in love with him !

While we get very little of Tyler, we never get pre episode previews with him ever (we got the Kevin/Jed funny moment in the previews already before EP) infact not that they go ahead and cut out Tyler's kilt bed rolling makeout session.


What are they trying to do if Jed is F1 ? Make a obvious season this year ? Lol

The editing along with Hannah having bad poker face and the SM behaviour are night and day. Starting to think Jed going offline for so long is just him being busy. Hannah being offline makes sense. She is always offline it seems.


Also thanks sosleepy for the summery for Des's season. This still helps !


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Post by Bleiby527 Mon Jun 17, 2019 12:47 am

I can understand why she picks Jed if she does although I think Tyler is so much better for her and Jed seems a bit dodgy. Jed is in Nashville, she loves Nashville, and her brother is always going there to visit his girlfriend. Nashville is also pretty close to her town in Alabama. I still think it sucks but it would make sense for her if she wants to be close to her family. Tyler I think is thriving in New York and while she might like New York for awhile it might be too far from her family for comfort.


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Post by Guest Mon Jun 17, 2019 12:47 am

Patience2415 wrote:@sunshine50
I agree with you 100%, but you had to live it to learn. Hannah is just living it now, so I expect her to doubt Tyler and miss out.

The thing is, with this show, Hannah was exposed to all different types at once. She could explore her usual types Jed and Luke and experience new ones. So could Tyler with someone different like Hannah. Luke S mentioned their Chemistry . We saw how they even could talk to one another and it wasn’t just physical. Even if Jed told her about his true intentions for coming on this show doesn’t mean those still aren’t his intentions . He still wants to cash in with or without her imo.

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Post by Bleiby527 Mon Jun 17, 2019 12:54 am

Sharnee wrote:Even if Jed told her about his true intentions for coming on this show doesn’t mean those still aren’t his intentions . He still wants to cash in with or without her imo.

Maybe I'm just rude, and I don't think this is clouded by my dislike of Jed for Hannah, but I actually don't think his singing voice is that great. I've had to mute all of his songs in the middle, ha. Maybe his songwriting skills are better? But I'm not a fan of his voice.

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Post by Sprite Mon Jun 17, 2019 12:55 am

Bleiby527 wrote:I can understand why she picks Jed if she does although I think Tyler is so much better for her. Jed is in Nashville, she loves Nashville, and her brother is always going there to visit his girlfriend. Nashville is also pretty close to her town in Alabama. I still think it sucks but it would make sense for her if she wants to be close to her family. Tyler I think is thriving in New York and while she might like New York for awhile it might be too far from her family for comfort.

I seriously do not see Hannah picking someone because they live closer to her family or because her brother goes to visit there. She has shown herself to be thoughtful and self aware. She wants someone who will fight for her, respect her choices and be there for her no matter what. I don't see that from Jed. I saw plenty of that from Tyler!


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Post by teamfiercelove Mon Jun 17, 2019 12:57 am

Bleiby527 wrote:
Sharnee wrote:Even if Jed told her about his true intentions for coming on this show doesn’t mean those still aren’t his intentions . He still wants to cash in with or without her imo.

Maybe I'm just rude, and I don't think this is clouded by my dislike of Jed for Hannah, but I actually don't think his singing voice is that great. I've had to mute all of his songs in the middle, ha. Maybe his songwriting skills are better? But I'm not a fan of his voice.

You’re not alone haha. My mom doesn’t watch but caught a singing scene when I had it on and was cringing so hard. She’s actually a vocal coach and she looked like she was in pain. “I’m sure he has other gifts he can focus on.” Her words, not mine. Man can’t sing. Maybe his songwriting is better, like you said?

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Post by sunshine50 Mon Jun 17, 2019 1:07 am

Sharnee wrote:
Patience2415 wrote:@sunshine50
I agree with you 100%, but you had to live it to learn. Hannah is just living it now, so I expect her to doubt Tyler and miss out.

The thing is, with this show, Hannah was exposed to all different types at once. She could explore her usual types Jed and Luke and experience new ones. So could Tyler with someone different like Hannah. Luke S mentioned their Chemistry . We saw how they even could talk to one another and it wasn’t just physical. Even if Jed told her about his true intentions for coming on this show doesn’t mean those still aren’t his intentions . He still wants to cash in with or without her imo.

I have even thought about Jed's stripper side job getting brought up at a hometowns and it helping her make her final decision. Obviously if he needs to strip to support his singing career he also needs her to support him. I hope she can see that eye opener.

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Post by dee Mon Jun 17, 2019 1:11 am

I really don't think his male revue side job will get brought up on the show. Unless the producers tell her, I don't see Jed or his family bringing it up. Jed didn't address it until someone called him out on twitter.
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Post by Bleiby527 Mon Jun 17, 2019 1:14 am

The stripping side hustle doesn't really seem to match Hannah's good girl personality to me. But then again, Tyler has a modeling side-gig. But for me, stripping is completely a step beyond modeling and Hannah has modeled herself.

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Post by sosleepy Mon Jun 17, 2019 1:18 am

And you know what? That’s such a double standard and so obnoxiously BS how Jed being a stripper is totally, completely glossed over, nbd... likely won’t be part of the storyline (just like that soft core porn star Leo last year) ... While poor Jade’s past with Playboy was exploited to high heavens, not only on the show, but also on Rita Skeeter’s stupid blog and twitter ad nauseam. It just makes me angry. “Vile/wild”Jade was too tainted for “pure” Chris bc of her “slutty naked ways,” but let’s not talk about Jed stripping down in front of rooms full of people, cause that’s irrelevant and nbd, apparently. Ok. Over it. JMO.
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Post by Guest Mon Jun 17, 2019 1:20 am

Bleiby527 wrote:The stripping side hustle doesn't really seem to match Hannah's good girl personality to me. But then again, Tyler has a modeling side-gig. But for me, stripping is completely a step beyond modeling and Hannah has modeled herself.


Tyler is a commercial model and does not gyrate in front of screaming possibly intoxicated women, pg-13  Rolling Eyes or otherwise. Who knows if that’s where Jed could have perfected his butt grabs . JK and mo.

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Post by misslurking Mon Jun 17, 2019 1:31 am

dee wrote:I really don't think his male revue side job will get brought up on the show. Unless the producers tell her, I don't see Jed or his family bringing it up. Jed didn't address it until someone called him out on twitter.


Honestly if Jed really wanted to be honest with Hannah then admitting he had a stripper adjacent job to maintain his music would have been a more compelling thing to admit than "oh sorry I was here for my career but so totally ready for marriage because your touch and voice is love and I love love."


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