Bachelorette Australia - Season 4 - Ali Oetjen - SM Media #2 - *Sleuthing Spoilers*

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Tracy Lee Why is Todd not bare chested? I realise this was filmed around 4 months ago in Winter but c'mon now - this old lady needs any joy I can get. Rude.

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AllAboutLove wrote:

I do know they only split up very shortly before she went on paradise because people were shocked she was there at all.  The fact that she attended and got engaged to Grant so quickly speaks volumes IMO  

1) she never split very shortly before November '17. They split beginning of '17.

2) Ali was never engaged to Grant.

They were still together May 2017.

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@Agent99 From what I was told by someone in the know, they'd first had a break in June 2016 and she dyed her hair brunette back then. Then in the beginning of '17 they broke off the engagement and split. She tried to make it like it wasn't but those who knew knew it was over then and she tried again off and on but even the trying was dunzo and by June was dying her hair back to blonde.

Not sure how much the ratings went up but this is why I never believe when audiences say they don't watch for drama and complain about it and yet that's what they watch for and the ratings prove it 

 Of course the show put this in to try get ratings. Otherwise it's just a boring old season of someone trying to go on reality tv again for their shot a tru wuv 

Also, I see what you did there DM with the 'climbing' (a reference to climbing stairs to be sure)  

Ratings for The Bachelorette start CLIMBING as Ali Oetjen's X-rated cheating scandal becomes a main storyline on the show

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AllAboutLove wrote:@Agent99 From what I was told by someone in the know, they'd first had a break in June 2016 and she dyed her hair brunette back then. Then in the beginning of '17 they broke off the engagement and split. She tried to make it like it wasn't but those who knew knew it was over then and she tried again off and on but even the trying was dunzo and by June was dying her hair back to blonde.

Ah right.  Calling someone your man and still wearing your engagement ring on occasion, when your relationship is finished, sounds downright delusional IMO.  I was completely neutral towards Ali and scoffed before when others said that about her, but I am now a believer.  She is a numnut.

ETA: What is the significance of dying her hair?

Agent99 wrote:

AllAboutLove wrote:

I do know they only split up very shortly before she went on paradise because people were shocked she was there at all.  The fact that she attended and got engaged to Grant so quickly speaks volumes IMO  

1) she never split very shortly before November '17. They split beginning of '17.

2) Ali was never engaged to Grant.

They were still together May 2017.

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She was apparently still wearing his engagement ring as late as October so I'm not convinced they were "fully split" until she got an offer to go on the show but JMO.

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She's the former Bachelor reject who appeared to finally get her happily ever after moment following her engagement.

But two years after saying 'yes' during a whirlwind proposal, Ali Oetjen is single and certainly ready to mingle with the busty blonde confirmed as a contestant on Bachelor In Paradise.

The 31-year-old was snapped flirting up a storm with Bachelorette runner-up Jarrod Woodgate while filming scenes in picturesque Fiji last week.

The photos raised questions about whether she may have ended her engagement to David Waldeck to be on the show.

While it is unclear when exactly the couple split, the former Miss Universe South Australia contestant was still wearing a ring on her wedding finger as recently as last month.

Days after the ring photo, Ali shared a cryptic post about 'setting her own standards' and being her own 'number one.'

Network Ten producers finalised the cast for Bachelor In Paradise earlier this month.

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Post from October 22nd referenced in the article showing her wearing the ring:



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Agent99 wrote:

AllAboutLove wrote:@Agent99 From what I was told by someone in the know, they'd first had a break in June 2016 and she dyed her hair brunette back then. Then in the beginning of '17 they broke off the engagement and split. She tried to make it like it wasn't but those who knew knew it was over then and she tried again off and on but even the trying was dunzo and by June was dying her hair back to blonde.

Ah right.  Calling someone your man and still wearing your engagement ring on occasion, when your relationship is finished, sounds downright delusional IMO.  I was completely neutral towards Ali and scoffed before when others said that about her, but I am now a believer.  She is a numnut.

ETA: What is the significance of dying her hair?

Delusional, putting on pretense for the gram, can't disagree with that. Notice in the pic that you tagged the guy was nowhere to be seen. Wearing a ring is one thing, being engaged is another.

The hair color, I was told was in regards to he preferred her to be brunette so she dyed her hair as she thought it would make her more attractive. Dyed it back to blonde when she wanted to be back to herself. 

From what I've been told there is truth to her trying to be what guys want and I can only go from what I've been told and like I've said I've followed her since Tim's season and she has lots of flaws but I think she also has low self-esteem and she does pick the wrong guys. Even with Grant's story he said they were having a party 1-2 am (alcohol? drugs?) and he was gone five minutes and then saw a guy going down on her (in one of the interviews he said it wasn't someone he was friends with) and not her going down on this guy. My thought is, so in five minutes some guy is going down on her. Five minutes he is away and that happens? Nothing before and then a strange guy is going down on her? How? Was she sober enough to know what was happening? I'd like to know but don't think will ever get the info  but there's no way imo that Grant was serious about Ali or heartbroken like he claims.

I could pile on her but the media has done that already and will continue to. Again, I think she has some issues for sure but I don't think she is bad person.

I also think she has low self esteem which is why her OTT "I'm so happy I have to put a joy on my ceiling so others don't feel uncomfortable around me!!!" #Ijustlovemylifesomuch Instagram posts come across to me as completely fake.

One of the main reasons I didn't want Ali as Lead was because I think she is emotionally and mentally unstable and a show like this will almost certainly mess her up more in the long term.  Family/friends should have talked her out of it IMO.

Re: the stairs, if she wasn't into it IMO she would have filed a sexual assault charge against the guy, rather than send a barrage of text messages apologising to Grant and begging for forgiveness.  She was no victim in that situation IMO.

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Earlier someone mentioned on the official Facebook that Charlie has a child. I just ignored it.

Now Charlie has admitted he has a son in 2010. It's in the new idea.

https://www.nowtolove.com.au/reality-tv/the-bachelorette-australia/bachelorette-charlie-newling-secret-child-51925

Oh my goodness

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-6301093/The-Bachelorettes-Paddy-Colliar-claims-runs-male-escort-agency.html

Sundy wrote:Oh my goodness

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"I gave up the brothel for this."

At least he's willing to make sacrifices.