Bachelorette Russia - Olga Buzova - Episodes - Discussion - *Sleuthing Spoilers*

Just want to say THANK YOU @natik for all your hard work posting, translating, and everything else you've done for this season - amazing work and so appreciated      

AllAboutLove wrote:Another celebrity lead who is all about themselves and entitled  It's a shame but to be expected by most of them. Denis was always talking about it wanting to be real outside the show and that it is that way with her. I don't believe it ever was for these celebs like this. Yet because they're a celebrity they get to move on even with some backlash, these celeb leads always acting like they're the victims 

Agree with you! Its a shame and I really started to buy it because I thought that she will be more humble because of her background story. But apparently her divorce did more damage to her than I expected.

AllAboutLove wrote:Just want to say THANK YOU @natik for all your hard work posting, translating, and everything else you've done for this season - amazing work and so appreciated      

Thank you gorgeous it is really appreciated!

Thank you all for your support and your comments!  
You are amazing it helps because I am at a point where I am soo exhausted from all the mess what is happening now!

natik wrote:

AllAboutLove wrote:Another celebrity lead who is all about themselves and entitled  It's a shame but to be expected by most of them. Denis was always talking about it wanting to be real outside the show and that it is that way with her. I don't believe it ever was for these celebs like this. Yet because they're a celebrity they get to move on even with some backlash, these celeb leads always acting like they're the victims 

Agree with you! Its a shame and I really started to buy it because I thought that she will be more humble because of her background story. But apparently her divorce did more damage to her than I expected.

I was following along during the season but didn't post as I never got good vibes from her. 

I felt like everything she was doing was to make herself look good and it was off-putting to me how hard she was making Denis have to work. Reassuring her all the time etc. 

He was always the one fully invested and wanting it to work outside and I didn't get that she wanted it like he did. 

So much of what I saw was reminding me of the celeb Aussies Nick and Sophie - both not in it for real world relationships. I think because of that and her celebrity status I was even more skeptical. 

The only difference I saw was an amazing first-season edit and F1 Denis who was really in love. Imo it was Denis that made her look good. 

I was waiting until the end because I was expecting them to be broken up and not surprised that is the case. Very sad though that she is dragging him through the mud and feel horrible for his son.

AllAboutLove wrote:Another celebrity lead who is all about themselves and entitled  It's a shame but to be expected by most of them. Denis was always talking about it wanting to be real outside the show and that it is that way with her. I don't believe it ever was for these celebs like this. Yet because they're a celebrity they get to move on even with some backlash, these celeb leads always acting like they're the victims 

This is my first International Bach show. I was really excited in the beginning but now I feel so burned. Curious to know what other celebrity leads are there? I remember there’s someone named Sophie? Australian B’ette?

sdmom wrote:

AllAboutLove wrote:Another celebrity lead who is all about themselves and entitled  It's a shame but to be expected by most of them. Denis was always talking about it wanting to be real outside the show and that it is that way with her. I don't believe it ever was for these celebs like this. Yet because they're a celebrity they get to move on even with some backlash, these celeb leads always acting like they're the victims 

This is my first International Bach show. I was really excited in the beginning but now I feel so burned. Curious to know what other celebrity leads are there? I remember there’s someone named Sophie? Australian B’ette?

O/T yes for Australia last year the Bette was Sophie a celebrity. She was fake as can be but audiences loved her especially while she was on the show. She played the victim all the time. It was all fake and for her career. This year they got a celeb Bach for Aussie as soon as that was announced I said he will be single or fake it like Sophie did and that I didn't believe he was ever interested in dating someone. Audiences were saying how he is so genuine, the real deal, will marry his F1 etc etc. Ended up he dumped both girls at the end. Never was interested in dating anyone from the getgo. jmo The non-celeb leads for Australia are much better. Georgia Love's season (Bette AU S2) was amazing and my favorite Bette season of anywhere and still with her F1. They have had great Bach seasons too (Sam Wood/S3 was great especially, still with his F1 and had a child together last year).

I'm sure there are some celebs internationally who have worked out and Natik posted about them. They're the rare ones though for celebs especially. I think with non-celebs even if they don't work out, the majority I think are there to try find someone (fame etc too) but with most celebs they really don't need this show to find someone and have tons of interested suitors it's hard for me to buy they are there for even 1% of wanting a relationship. If they do work I think it's with those who have a similar status as them. jmo

AllAboutLove wrote:

natik wrote:

AllAboutLove wrote:Another celebrity lead who is all about themselves and entitled  It's a shame but to be expected by most of them. Denis was always talking about it wanting to be real outside the show and that it is that way with her. I don't believe it ever was for these celebs like this. Yet because they're a celebrity they get to move on even with some backlash, these celeb leads always acting like they're the victims 

Agree with you! Its a shame and I really started to buy it because I thought that she will be more humble because of her background story. But apparently her divorce did more damage to her than I expected.

I was following along during the season but didn't post as I never got good vibes from her. 

I felt like everything she was doing was to make herself look good and it was off-putting to me how hard she was making Denis have to work. Reassuring her all the time etc. 

He was always the one fully invested and wanting it to work outside and I didn't get that she wanted it like he did. 

So much of what I saw was reminding me of the celeb Aussies Nick and Sophie - both not in it for real world relationships. I think because of that and her celebrity status I was even more skeptical. 

The only difference I saw was an amazing first-season edit and F1 Denis who was really in love. Imo it was Denis that made her look good. 

I was waiting until the end because I was expecting them to be broken up and not surprised that is the case. Very sad though that she is dragging him through the mud and feel horrible for his son.

I so agree with the bolded. To me he was the star of the show.

Sprite wrote:

AllAboutLove wrote: Imo it was Denis that made her look good. 

I so agree with the bolded. To me he was the star of the show.

Absolutely. That's what struck me how he was the standout - it was his love and care and chasing and reassurance and wanting it to be real outside the show that by her just choosing him she looked better! But he was the star! jmo

@natik, question: I browsed some of the contestants’ IG to see who’s supporting Denis. It seems like Big Evengy supports him but I don’t understand Valentine’s. Who’s he calling”bitch”? Does he agree or disagree with the yellow press? The trans doesn’t really help.

@sdmom Really disturbed by Wallentin insults and rants towards Denis. I guess he decided to side with the ‘ powerful ‘ instead of the Friend and ‘ right ‘ choice, and is apparently having meetings with Olga’s gangs and has announced more mayhem to come.  I’m disgusted by all of them.
Since Evgeny is partner with Denis in opening a new restaurant, I would think they are close and on the same side. Plus Evgeny is a father as well...
There is a movement to support Denis but many followers are blindly accepting whatever their diva is telling them. Very sad, and as mentioned earlier, the degree of slander is so out of line by character assassination, it’s hard to believe this woman had any feelings for him. I’m actullay very surprised by her message and still think that it sounds more like Anton wrote it and she had to stay silent. My personal view, obviously, I think they have a spell on her, like she is so blindly trusting, it’s not normal.
3 months ago, she was the one instigating the last date with Denis. She is the one who planned the surprise date where they board a carriage, and see the beautiful sights of Roma. She kept saying as she was nuzzling into him, that she wanted to experience this city that she thought was LIGHT as opposed Moscow , which is heavy. Rome represents Love and is her favorite city. She was saying how she wanted to experience this beautiful city with him, alone, not thinking of the show, just being in the moment for now and for later memories created together. She leads him to this bridge where they stand on and start writing their name, the date and love words ( she wrote I accept you’ on a padlock. )Then they tie it up to the banister and as Denis keeps the key, she says , don’t lose it. And he says NO, no, and puts it in his pants pocket. They embrace and this is where she actually broke down in tears and emotion as she was sharing this symbolic gesture of commitment with Denis. She is still so afraid to be left or cheated on and betrayed. He comforts her in his arms.
Well, that scene was setting the stage to their very last encounter in the gorgeous castle. We see an alternance if Denis with Marina, who asks several questions, the first one being the money exchange. Of course he says that right after their first date, there was no question in his mind that he wanted to be with her and money meant nothing.  She also asked what were the qualities he sees in her, was there any change isn his feelings for her. He responds unequivocally that yes, from before where she was this “Star” or character that seemed unapproachable to after meeting her more,  he saw her as a real woman, with her vulnerability, her kindness, her beauty, her intelligence and he started to have feelings for her.
On her side Olga is asked about her feelings and how she has also grown to open herself to want only him, she misses him, thinks of him, wants to be near him and look into his eyes and see reflected what she is feeling for him as well.
It’s all very interesting to see them having their own doubts about the other and we see tha infamous letter containing the polygraph results, which Olga is kind of shocked by and is asking several times, “ is this true  is this a real polygraph?” In amazement because obviously he answered all correctly.

In the chapel, beautifully decorated by flowers, they stand in from iof each other and Denis, being nervous to forget has written his feelings down. She listen intently as he reads her the poetic words of love and commitment before showing her the ring he put on her finger.
And then she accept and kisses him back. There is true joy and emotion in their embrace. When they exit the church, they are greeted by the crew throwing confetti and applauding them. This is where real life begins...

And begins the chapter of living their love idyll secretly. Olga’s entourage is none too happy at the turn of things and having already hatched a plan to shake things off for good. Thanks to Olga’s connection with the Yellow press editor, that she personally knows and so does Anton, who has used it strategically to gain standing for their promotion of Olga, the slanderous, fabricated articles begin circulating, first only a few, then, they get paid statements from several key players, all executed to destabilize Olga’s emotional state and ruin Denis personal and business life. Of course, right when Olga feels good about everything with Denis, ( after he escorted her at the Music awards) is where they hit her with the ‘ leaked ‘ news, fake documents and everything.
I doubt that she actually had the conversation she is claiming she had where Denis allegedly had admitted to all the wrongdoings he was accused of. I think Anton confronted him and he tried to defend himself and then they presented the fake evidence to Olga. There are so many holes and contradictions in their accusations. And thats why I think she has HEARD some of those from either her sister or Anton, because none of them has exactly the same story. First rule of a believable lie, it needs to be CONSISTENT. But for the majority of fans, they blindly will take their divas side without thinking too much, or at all about 1 if it makes sense, 2 if it’s realistic 3 and WHO would gain from those rumors.


@natik will tell us more tomorrow on what deep evil deeds Olga’s gang has schemed and what we can expect.

I just don’t understand why Olga would use such harsh, cruel words to attack Denis? Has he really hurt her in any way, shape or form? Does she know words can kill a person? Yes, she has been hurt before, but that doesn’t excuse her from attacking Denis. Really really not liking what she’s done!

Yes, I totally agree with you and that’s why I hesitate to say it’s her. It’s a known fact that her management team ( Anton and others) have posted for her. It’s sounds really out of character even for a very hurt and scorned Olga. I may be wrong and there is probably no way to prove it...these words are so ultimate and deathly, it is the kind of words found in the yellow press... monstrous etc...to be followed.
But whoever wrote those words was possessed by evil thoughts with no chance of redemption.
Seriously can any of us really see Denis, the athlete and positive and loving guy, father of a 6 year old son that he is protecting as much as he can from harm,  being an addict?

ETA Again, à complete speculative theory...what if Olga was thrown in a tailspin and unable or unwilling to face the business as usual? Deep shock or depression would not be too outlandish to expect as her reactions. Then they tell her «  they will take care of everything, trust us » so she can be in her own world, maybe with medications to « help her » cope. I don’t know, maybe my imagination is too wild but there so many layers of manipukation here. They manipulated her as much in the beginning and through the filming. Why stop now, makes no sense... manipulating and using to their afavantage all private information gathered through Denis himself, Olga confiding in her dear sister and girlfriends, etc. They had all the components needed to make these bombs very powerfully explode in Denis and Olga’s life. I think she is at their mercy more than she lets on. That’s another reason where they could not have a real man in there, giving Olga advice or guiding her own interests as opposed to theirs.