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Post by Astrobach Wed Sep 19, 2018 5:38 pm

I hope @natik didn’t collapse or get sick with the amount of work she does and the lack of sleep...
As far as I can see / guess they will be going South next week, to Naples and possibly Pompéi. It’s the episode where temper flares, ( Walentin knocks Sasha out) Olga is in tears, and apparently her mom is visiting as well. I can wait to see how it develops.
Thanks @natik and wishing you well. :sending flowers
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Post by natik Thu Sep 20, 2018 10:26 am

@Astrobach Thank you for worrying! beatingheart

Guys I am alive and still here. Don’t worry I am fine. I was busy with a project at work that’s why I couldn’t update the thread. But I have now a few days of. Sorry that you have to wait so long for translation. I am doing my best to finish episode 3. The most important things about episodes 4 were already discussed and translated. I am gonna translate a few interesting parts of episode 4 and then we are done with those episodes.

For users who can’t wait to watch episode 5 without the translation here is the link:

SPOILER

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Link:

http://sefimu.com/play/video/76351836

(you need to switch for part 2 in the upper left corner of the screen)


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https://m.vk.com/zabuzovy
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Post by natik Thu Sep 20, 2018 5:35 pm

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natik wrote:
Agent99 wrote:Just finished Epi 4 and the vibe is so different to 3.  It is more tense I think. I just don’t know why Sasha blue-eyes is there. He is so disinterested.  He must be a producer plant – everything he does is designed to be different to the other guys and to provoke them.  

I guess the woodchopping was another manly contest – to find out who is the manliest man of the men laugh out loud  What was the woodchop argument  about – something to do with chopping technique?    Anyway, it was funny when Evgeny was declared the winner and $$ went yes thinking it was him!

I just read what went wrong with Evgeny’s date.  It started well I thought, with some banter and laughter in the car, but obviously his red flags were raised again and Olga just put her defence up.  He didn’t like it and challenged her.  I’m not sure how I feel about that because it did look a little threatening.  On the other hand, I hope that her f1 won’t be a lapdog forever and will challenge her otherwise she will emasculate him very quickly IMO

Was there anything of note said in Timofey’s meeting?

The editing in Olga’s meeting was all over the place.   Denis there, not there.  Sergei sitting on floor then chair then floor.  And Olga is so sunburnt ouch.

I think it was Valja’s episode as a lot revolved around him.   That doesn’t bode well for his relationship with Olga – the ones that focus on their competitors and not the lead never win.  I don’t know if I can warm to him.   I see him seething internally over everything.

More theme dressing for the ceremony laugh out loud   It really suits big Sasha, he looks like he should be in a Rambo movie.   I think $$ will be the next to go.

Welcome to the club most viewers are asking that question as well. Why is Sasha there?! He is so blank.


About the wood chopping argument:

Marina stopped the competition because Evgeny broke already his third ax and Denis broke his as well. And there were no axes left anymore. So Denis started to chop the wood with his hands and Marina said we need to stop it´s against the rules. So they were standing there and were discussing what to do. They needed to chop the wood for 15 minutes but they did it only for three minutes. And big Sasha said that it´s the problem of the guys who broke their ax and that the others should continue to chop it. Valja, Denis and Evgeny said that it´s not fair and that Olga then should decide with whom she wants to go on a date. Marina had the final word and she said she will ask Olga to choose someone for a date and that Olga can choose anyone of them.
Later the guys discussed Sasha`s like they thought not fair suggestion to continue with the competition without the guys which ax broke. They said that he should be the one who be quiet because he basically stole a date last week by doing nothing. So that´s how Big Evgeny ended on the date with Olga. She choose him because she wanted to know where they are standing and if something will evolve like it did with Denis.


Poor Evgeny$$ forgot for a minute that there is a second Evgeny there.

You know regarding her F1 she said a really telling sentence in episode 4 regarding her F1 and I am not gonna tell his name but she said about him:

"He heard me, he is feeling me but at the same time he didn`t lost himself by doing it and that is such an amazing quality." I think that´s the point for her. She described it all in just one sentence.

The most important parts with Timofey I already summed up. It´s what he said is important for Olga in a man and how she is in a relationship.

Valja is too tense for my taste it´s like he is there to win the prize and to show the others what a man he is. I don`t know he is trying too hard to be the perfect guy with high moral standards.

Yes the theme dressing is actually typical. They are doing the same in the Russia Bachelor seasons. So we got used to it.

Thank you for replying Natik!  I tried to not read any of the posts about the episode until I had seen it, so I apologise and I am catching up and enjoying everyone's perspective.

No need to apologize I don`t mind to answer the questions bestbud! Can`t wait to read more of your comments! Mood - Bachelorette Russia - Olga Buzova - Episodes - Discussion - *Sleuthing Spoilers* - Page 24 1710264613
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Post by Astrobach Thu Sep 20, 2018 5:39 pm

OMG! Such a good episode ! First date with Wallentin, many twists and the end is leaving you on the edge...
I have to go but will be back with many questions !
Spasiva @natik! hearthumbsup
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Post by natik Thu Sep 20, 2018 5:58 pm

@Astrobach I love your sleuthing regarding the music. And you are correct there is a significant background music there.yes

And you will hear it in episode 5 as well. Unfortunately I don´t know more about that music piece.
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Post by natik Thu Sep 20, 2018 6:16 pm

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@natik I apologize in advance if you already answered about he date with big Alex. Did he plan it? They both write letters,  but to whom? She wouldn’t let Alex hold her hand buts she’s laughing a lot in the date then she gets emotional while writing the letter. why? I think big Alex has a sensitive side and is falling for her (the way he looks at her) and she appreciates it. He’s let go at ep 4?  

No need to apologize it! It´s a good question and I didn´t had the chance to translate that part of episode 3. So it´s was a good opportunity for me to change it. And here we go:

It starts at 22:25.



Ok let us look back at episode 3 and the date with Sasha (the bald one).

So they meet in the city and there Sasha said that he had not a lot of time to plan the date so he decided to take her for a walk around Verona and visit the place where you can write a letter to Juliette.

He wanted to hold hands with her but she refused it because she didn´t felt like she was ready to hold his hand.
He asked her to be honest with him and they decided to make a pact with kinda like a hand shake.
Olga picked a letter and read it. The letter was from a woman she is from Russia as well.
Olga said in her ITM that she is surprised by Sasha (the bald one) because his appearance does not match to his personality. She said to him that she is thinks that he has warm feelings for her but she wants him to be real and to do what he wants to do. He should be himself. That`s important for her.

They decided to write a letter to Juliette. Sasha wrote his first. He said he wrote nothing special a banal wish to be happy with someone for the rest of his life and to find that someone.
After him Olga wrote her letter. She read her letter in her ITM:

„Der Juliette. I am Olga and I want to ask you to allow me to fall in love again. I really want to experience that feelings again. I am really scared that I am never gonna fall in love again. That I am never going to be able to love someone like I did before. Please help me!“

We are seeing how Olga is crying in her ITM:
„It´s a nightmare. I really think that I am never gonna fall in love again. It´s horrible.“

Sasha ITM: „If she wants it really bad it´s gonna happen. It´s gonna happen to the right time.“

Olga ITM: I am don´t feel anything. That´s crazy what am I doing here? I don´t understand it. I am writing silly letters to Juliette. I am 32 years old.“

She is showing her letter to Sasha.

Olga ITM: It´s madness it´s like to write a letter to the Santa Claus but when you are there you are believing in it, damn it. And you really think that Juliette exists and that such kind of love exists for which you are ready to die. You are believing it there in that moment.“

In general she liked that date. She said she finally saw in him a man.

Sasha returned after the date and joined the other guys. He was very impressed with Olga and their date. They were asking him how it was and were kinda joking because he got that day basically undeserved.

The translation ends at 33:30.
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Post by Sprite Thu Sep 20, 2018 6:41 pm

Here we go with episode 5, part 1.

So we start off with the guys arriving in Naples and getting a ride in a minivan with their Italian driver pretty much mouthing off to other drivers the whole way. Typical.

They arrive at an old villa with the most fantastic views of the countryside and Mount Vesuvius across from them. Absolutely beautiful. Another one on my bucket list.

Olga arrives and talks about how things are PRIJATNO...pleasant. I think setting us up for the fight to come which I assume will be anything but pleasant. They are chatting and Evgeny is telling her something that I think is supposed to be funny, but as usual, Olga is not amused by him. Then Denis starts and she is much happier. @Natik, Olga asks him a question and he answers SLATKA...which in Croatian means sweet. Everyone seems to crack up. What did she ask? And then Valja starts and he appears embarrassed by whatever they are talking about. Sasha on the other had looks like someone stuck a stick up his a**. Seriously the dude just looks bored and like he could care less about being there. He doesn't even seem to be trying to fit in with the guys or Olga. Even his ITMs look like he is bored.

Evgeny tries again with a present for Olga and asks Sasha to move over since Sasha is sitting next to Olga. I think he gives her a Lemoncello liqueur, a bracelet and it looks like a piece of lava from one of the eruptions. She is polite. Valja is doing a lot of ITMs during the gift giving and doesn't seem too thrilled. Poor Evgeny. He is trying so hard, but it just is not working. I don't know if he just doesn't see it or if he thinks if he just tries harder she might change her mind...She won't! She doesn't seem too thrilled with what Valja is going on about either.

Next up....Olga's mom coming to chat with the guys! She seems to comment something to Valja. @Natik can you please let us know what her mom talked about with the guys? Mom takes them to a kitchen and I think asks them to cook something. Sasha right away picks dessert and Valja makes some kind of comment about that with a really funny face and vocals? Evgeny picks salad. I think Sergei wanted to do the meat as did Denis, but I think Denis said he would do whatever was left. Mom made a comment about Denis. I wish I could understand it all. She was asking them questions as they were cooking. Did she make a comment about Sasha showing off? And I think she said something about Valja making excuses...as to why he didn't know how to cook? but he did ask for her help and he made some kind of crepe. Then she was not impressed by Sasha who just cut up strawberries and kiwi. The way he jumped at it, I thought he would be making something impressive, but no. Mama doesn't look impressed either.

After everything was finished, Olga joined them up on the terrace. She looked surprised at how good everything looked. I think she thought mom did most of it, but the guys were like she helped. I think Olga would like a guy who can cook. Did her mom say she doesn't cook? I think Olga was trying to guess who made what dish and she had no clue. She seemed to expect Denis to cook well, but seemed impressed by the crepes Valja made and unimpressed by Sasha and his lack of effort...again.

After everything, Olga and mama  went for a little talk. What did mama tell her about the guys?
I don't think she liked Sasha. After, they went back and Olga discussed what they had talked about. What did Olga tell the guys? It seems it came down to Denis and Valja. Did she ask them to decide between them who gets the date with her?

Valja arrives at the marina. Gives her a hug. They were walking along, holding hands and laughing. They go sailing on a yacht.  They did some talking. It seemed to go okay for the most part...and then during her ITM....she seemed to get a little angry. What were they discussing? She was touching him so it couldn't have been all bad.

Back at the villa, mama is back and chatting with the remaining guys. I don't know what is going on with that salad, but she brought it back up again. What were they chatting about here? Mama pulls Denis aside and they go off to chat. He was saying something about learning? … was that after his divorce? Mama seemed to really like him. He kissed her hand just like he does with Olga. I wonder if he does that all the time that charmer? Back to the other guys talking while mama and Denis are off.

Then back to the sailing with Olga and Valja. They are talking and she is laughing. She doesn't look uncomfortable with him...they are standing and he is right behind her with his arm sort of behind her holding on to a post...sort of helping her keep her footing. I don't know why, but in her ITMs, she again looks somewhat ticked off. I don't know what is the issue or if there even is an issue, but she seems okay while with him and then they both turned to the camera and said something to whoever is behind there. A bit odd...apparently he wanted something that was impossible and he was digging himself a hole?

They sailed to Capri and then did some swimming. Valja seemed to loosen up and they appeared to be having fun. When they got out, he hosed her down and even pulled down the backside of her bathing suit....hmmm...She looked very happy in her ITMs and she let him drape the towel around her...along with his arms...hmmm....and I believe she said he is romantic???

And so ends the first half at this somewhat hot moment. Not quite as romantic as the date with Denis, but the best competition thus far. Hmmm....things are getting interesting!


You could be the juiciest, most ripe peach, but there is still going to be someone who doesn't like peaches.
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Post by natik Thu Sep 20, 2018 9:23 pm

God @Sprite seriously I love your comments. I swear it´s fun to read them and mostly you are on point. :claphands



Ok here we go:

Olga arrives and she says in her ITM that she is happy with the guys who stayed. She said to the men that they all are looking really good and that she is happy to see them. They are chatting and it´s actually a good atmosphere. She said in her ITM that she likes Evgeny better and better because he is positive and she likes his sense of humor. (My personal impression she still doesn´t see in him a man for her).
Denis is admitting that he was dreaming the last night about Olga.

Olga: Is it true?

Denis: Yes.

Olga: Seriously?

Denis: It was a really sensual dream…and I woke up…

Olga: No..no don´t tell it.

Denis: I dreamed that we kissed.

Olga: Seriously?

Denis: We kissed and talked and had a good time together.

Olga: And how did you liked the kiss with me?

Denis: It was sweet.

Valja didn´t liked that story.

Olga said, so it means we shared our first kiss. And Valja misunderstood it and asked if they kissed for real. Olga said no we are still talking about the dream. Valja in his ITM`s is always dissing the guys. It´s not even some easy jokes it´s more like a diss. he is making fun of them. It´s like he thinks he is above them all.

Evgeny bought her some gifts the fun part about it is he was shopping with Denis. And Denis wanted to buy for her a handbag the next day but Evgeny kinda took Denis idea with the handbag and gave it to Olga.

Ok here we go Olga`s mom arrives. That woman is a bomb!

Olga is calling for her mum and Valja is calling her „mother in law“.

Mum: Oh guys let me tell you something you are in trouble.

Olga`s mum said in her ITM that Olga said her nothing about the guys all she knew about them were their names. Olga said to her that she wants her mum to objective impression of the men.

Mum: Valja for you it´s going to be harder because I hate that name. (she is joking)

So it´s cooking time with Olga`s mum. She prepared five dishes that Olga likes the most.

First: potatoes with mushroom

Second: Meat

Third: Crepes we are calling them in Russia „bliny“.

Four: Salad

Five: Dessert


Olga`s mum said they need to choose on their own what they want to cook. Sasha said the first that he wants to make the dessert.


Valja ITM (mocking Sasha): Sweet Grinev choose the dessert. Ooooh…err

Evgeny chooses salad.

Denis is saying he does`t care he would do anything. Vallejo is saying to Denis that he can have the meat.

Mum ITM: I liked that Denis didn´t fought for a dish and said I am gonna cook anything I don´t care.

Valja is choosing crepes. Seems to me like he can’t cook at all because at the start of the episode when they arrived to their new mansion he said: „The only thing that is missing here in the kitchen is a woman.“

So they started and Evgeny asked if they have to cook only for Olga or for her mum as well. And Olga`s mum said you need to decide.

Valja ITM: Evgeny was talking too much today. I mean he is talking all the time too much but today it was unbearably.

Olga´s mum asked the guys about their families, their siblings. Sasha said that he has four siblings.

Olga´s mum ITM: He is not ready yet. He seems to me like the youngest kid in the family who had`t had the chance to grow up and be a man.

Olga mum ITM: Sergej is a great guy. I saw that he has the same technics in cleaning the potatoes he seems at ease.

Sergej is telling that he has two siblings he is the oldest one. He has a sister and a brother.

Denis said it´s normal with him. He loves his parents. His dad worked for the Russian secret service (FSB it´s like the FBI/CIA in the US).Olga`s mum joked about it and said that it´s not going to be ease to get a divorce with him.

Denis ITM: I didn´t tried to make her like me. I acted normal and didn´t wanted to impress her. I don´t like if someone is doing it.

Evgeny is talking about his favorite topic about money and that he is a millionaire.
Denis said in his ITM that she kept her distance with Evgeny and kinda acted around him with a little irony.

Olga`s mum ITM about Valja: He didn´t tried to surprise me with something. He had his task and he was concentrated on that. I liked that.

Olga´s mum: How will you call your mother in law?

Sasha: Mommy

Olga`s mum ITM: That was a big mistake by Sasha.

Olga`s mum: You can call however you want but never call me „Mommy“. Because there was one who called me like that for four years and didn´t even called me when he get rid of my daughter.

Olgas mum to Sasha: Are you nervous?

Sasha: Yes I am always nervous during important events.

Mum: And how is it in life when there are responsibilities?

Evgeny: I am not nervous at all.

Mum: Yes I see that

Mum ITM about Sasha: It feels to me like he is lost. He chose some fruits but what to do with it he does´t know.

She is saying to Sasha that he needs to be more creative. There is no love in his dish.

Mum ITM: I am feeling with him like he is a little boy and I am his mum. He is a baby to me.

So they were finished with cooking and Olga needs to taste everything and try to guess who cooked what.

Olga is tasting it and she liked the crepes but she said that out of all the dishes she would have chosen the salad. She liked the meat and how the plate was decorated with a rose. She guessed only the dish who made Denis. She said it´s his style with the decoration and the rose. With all the others she was wrong. She was surprised that Valja made the crepes she didn´t thought that he can do that.
Well Sasha failed with his dessert she was impressed at all.
But in general she was impressed by their cooking skills.

The talk with her mum:

Mum: You know I didn´t liked all your exe´s at all. From the first one to the last one.

Evgeny is too much. And he told me that he is a millionaire.

Olga: Oh that`s classical.

Mum: From one side maybe it´s a yes because if he wants something he will get it. And it´s normal because he is in the financial business and he that´s they way how things work there. If you want to be someone in that sphere.

Olga ITM: Evgeny is like a truck and I don´t know if it´s the best in a relationship.

Mum: Sasha, Sergej and Evgeny wanted to choose right from the start what they want to cook. The easiest dishes salad and dessert. The easiest.

Olga: That´s what I wanted to know who choose the dessert.

Mum: The dessert was Sasha`s choice.

Olga: It´s the easiest dish.

Mum: He is a boy he can´t take responsibility for himself.

Olga: Oh that´s horrible mum don’t do it don´t upset me. I told him the same in Verona. I don´t need a pretty boy I need a man.

Mum: So why are you upset?

Olga: Because I liked him.

Olga is asking her mum with whom she should go on a date.

Mum: You know you said that from all the dishes you would have chosen the salad so now I would say go with the salad on the date. It´s also an opportunity to find out if he is someone for you.

Mum ITM: On a date I would chose Evgeny just to find out that he is for sure not the one.

Mum: You need to be honest the only dish you ate was the salad.

Olga: No that´s not true I tasted all the dishes except the dessert.

Mum ITM: If someone out of the men will decide that Olja is his destiny than all the chances are in his hands because Olja is open. I saw it today that she is ready to fall in love.

Olja joined the men to tell them who will go on a date. She can´t decide between Denis and Valja. She liked the way Denis decorated the dish and that was the only dish she guessed right. Plus her mom told her that Denis said that he does´t care which dish to cook because he was sure to make her happy with any of the dishes. She was also impressed with Valja´s crepes and that he is not trying to be in the centre of attention that he is keeping himself in the background.
She decided to spent half of the day with Valja and half of the day with Denis. Which part of the day they should decide on their own.

They decided that Valja is going in the first half of the day and Denis in the second half of the day.

Translation ends at 30:20.
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Post by natik Thu Sep 20, 2018 11:47 pm



We left of at 30:20.

Olga tells that she will learn more about Valja because she does´t know anything about him. She does´t know what a man he is. What he is doing? Nothing about his past and present. All she knows is that he seems like a honorably man.

They met and had a little chat nothing interesting. Just some small talk and some jokes because it´s actually the first time that they are going to spent time on an individual date.

Olga said in her ITM that she liked how they met it was like they met for the first time.

Valja decided to take her on a yacht. She said you did on purpose so I need to take off my heels so we can be the same height.

Valja answered that no, he thought that Olja can´t escape from the yacht.

They have fun and then they are showing us a conversation.

Olga: You had a very beautiful wife why are you divorced?

Valja: Can I have a drink at first.

Valja ITM: It´s a personal questions and I told about it only a few people.

Olga: Valja we don´t have much time and it´s for me an important moment. If you would have asked me I would have answered you. I am ready to be honest with you and if I don´t want to answer a question I am gonna tell you that.

Valja: Ok the same for me.

Olga: So can you please answer me?

Valja: I am doing the same I don´t want to answer that question.

So basically he does´t want to answer it. The atmosphere was a little bit tense that´s what he is saying in his ITM.

Olga: Did you loved your wife?

Valja: Yes.

Olga: A lot?

Valja: Yes. … Sorry.

Olga: No it´s wonderful.

Valja: I don´t want to talk about women with you.

Olga: You don´t want to?

Valja: No, for what? What does it give you?

Olga: I am just curious why a man get a divorce with a beautiful graceful woman. Did you fall out of love?

After some time he is answering her.

Valja: It was her initiative.

Olga: Were you upset?

Valja: No because I kinda saw it coming. We started to fight a lot and I had a crises of an middle aged man and so it happened.

Valja ITM: Did I said today too much? Mmmm I don´t think so.

Olga: Are you possible to cheat on your woman?

Valja: I didn´t cheated on any of my women. It´s important to me that my women don´t think that I am a bastard. It´s my position.

Olga: So it´s your principle?

Valja: Yes it´s my principle.

Olga ITM: All the men are saying it. I mean really ALL! I don´t know even one man who would come to me and say, oh you know what I am gonna cheat on you.

Olga said that she believes that man who are not cheating exists. She really believes in it.

She is touching his flower and is saying that because of her there is dirt on his shirt and Valja is answering: Oh that´s ok you can wash it then.

Olga ITM: Yes of course I am gonna wash right away. (sarcasm)

He is asking her if she can cook, and wash and iron clothes.

She answered that she can wash and cook but she hates it to iron clothes.

Ok at that point I can´t tell you if he is joking. I mean he is joking but it gives me the vibe that there is truth in it.

He is saying to her that then he will do the iron thing as an exception.

Valja: Are you a good wife what do you think?

Olga: I think I am a very good wife as a woman. My opinion.

Valja: Your mum told the same about you.

Olga: My mum told it?! Well my mum you would lie. She loves me but she is also my hardest critic.

Valja ITM: I tried to kinda find out what her mum told her but Olga didn´t said anything.

Olga´s mum decided to visit the men at the mansion. She said that she didn´t expected to see Denis because she thought he will be gone for his date.
She is talking about Olga´s choice for the date. She said that it was unexpected for her because she thought that Olga would chose Evgeny.

Sasha: I thought that you influenced her choice.

Mum: No guys I am gonna repeat it again you don´t need to impress me. Because it´s Olga´s choice.

Mum ITM: I had today an amazing day because Olja was not in the mansion and I finally had the chance to talk to the guys personally from eye to eye.

Because Denis needs to leave she decided to speak to him first.

Mum: I wasn´t ready for a talk with Denis because I thought he will not be there but I was pleasantly surprised by our conversation. It turned out pretty well.

Mum: You know it´s maybe strange but right from the start you seemed to me clear/bright. So I only have some, I would say uncomfortable questions for you.

Denis: I am ready.

Mum: So you are ready for them?

Mum ITM: He was very nervous to talk to me and I found it strange because I had an impression of him that he is a confident person.

Mum: You said something about experience so I understood it that you already had a family?

Denis: I had a family and I have a miracle son.

Mum: How old is he?

Denis: He is six years old.

Mum: Six years, wonderful. I know men are dreaming about a son.

Denis: Yes I am really happy about it.

Mum ITM: He is very proud that he has a son. Because when he is talking about him his eyes are shining. And I understood that he is not the man who only pays alimony.

Mum: Can you tell me please if it´s not to soon for a new serious relationship. If there are still old wounds there.

Denis: That´s what I wanted to ask you as well.

Denis: No I am over it. I was miserable but I am over it.

Mum: You was miserable well you have that in common with Olja.

Denis: Now it`s like I was born again. It changed me a lot.

Mum: Are you sure that the direction in that you changed is a positive one. Because sometimes…

Denis: Of course I am sure, 100%. I let go of my bad habits.

Mum: That´s a good thing.

Denis: I started my own successful business.

Mum ITM: He convinced me that he is over his marriage. And that is important.

Mum: Just do everything like you did it before. You are on the right path.

Denis: I am gonna do my best to be real.

Mum: Good luck to you. Yes be that. Stay yourself. Listen to your heart.

Denis: I want to take advantage of the fact that it´s like vacation for her and I want to make her happy and give her moments of happiness.

Mum: And believe me she is happy right now. And I am thankful for that to all the guys and especially to you.

Denis: Thank you.

Mum: Thank you. Good luck!

Mum ITM: To go on a date at the second place is difficult so I am wishing him that he can stay during the date as positive and calm as he was when we first met.

Back to Evgeny, Sasha and Sergej. They talking that the atmosphere is so relaxed and everyone is at ease. And Sergej is saying that it´s because Valja is not with them.

Ok we are back at the date with Olga and Valja. They are standing on the yacht and in that moment Olga is asking Valja: „What do you think does Denis really likes me?“

Valja: „I don´t wann talk about him now.“

Olga ITM: And he repeated like 100 times that he does´t want to let me go to Denis and said why. He said because you like him a lot.

Olga: Do you like me?

Valja: Yes I like you. I am feeling comfortable with you. Earlier you were more like a superstar to me. I am asking myself why I didn´t kissed you already.

Olga ITM: He tried to seduce me. He was polite but he was telling me that he wants to grab me by ma hair and kiss me.

Valja: You know I would wish to draw the rest of the guys in the ocean.

Olga: No please don´t do it.

Olga ITM: It´s not like I was afraid but he has a very strong male energetic about him.

They went swimming and nothing interesting was said anymore till the end of part 1.

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Post by Sprite Fri Sep 21, 2018 2:07 am

Episode 5, part 2.

And we are right back at the mansion with mama grilling the rest of the guys and she pulls Sergei aside for a chat. I think she thinks he is a little vain. Meanwhile, Evgeny and Sasha are having a laugh and Olga is not thrilled in her ITM. I think she is talking about the guys as a group.

Bach on the boat, Valja is rubbing her arm and they are chatting. He is also nuzzling her shoulder. She is laughing while he is doing it, but in the ITM she is not looking thrilled. I wish I knew what was going on! They are back on the dock and she seems to be flirting and blushing. She leaves and he is doing ITM's. They both seemed pretty happy, but it wasn't magical like it had been with Denis. Valja says he doesn't want mama mad so he brings her flowers when he gets back to the mansion.

Mama is still talking to everyone, but she seems to be talking about Valja and again, not so impressed IMO when in her ITM. She takes him to talk. What was she going on about with him?
Again not impressed and he was making that digging himself a hole sign again. I take it things didn't quite go so well. He is doing a lot of talking and from mama I mostly hear hmmm, hmmm.

Back to the guys...Sacha, Evgeny and Sergei...chatting and having a drink....meanwhile, there is Denis waiting for Olga with some flowers. I think he is talking about why he got her the white roses...the symbolism behind them. Man he looks beet red. He calls her his princess and she is all smiles and happy. He pulls something out of his pocket for her and they are whispering a bit and she is laughing. It looks like some kind of candy. She is doing an ITM after and she seems a bit uncomfortable, overwhelmed maybe. They continue walking and he picks her up and carries her and she is squealing, but I still don't think she is happy about this. I think she is saying he is trying too hard and it's too much or is she comparing the two dates? This is when I wish I understood Russian.

He is telling her something about his talk with her mother and then he takes her to some restaurant where the owner/cook is talking about making them a traditional Italian pasta. He is giving Olga a lesson and she and Denis are cooking together to make the pasta. She seems to be really enjoying it. After they are finished they go outside and eat their delicious looking pasta. They are holding hands and they are talking. She said something about not knowing what she would do if she was in his situation. What was that all about? And then I think she mentioned something about Valja? Is she still testing him? Also, was she asking how she comes across or did when they first me? Strog...strict/serious? I think she seemed surprised that she came across that way? She sees herself as more vulnerable? Not sure about that, but that was my impression of their talk. They seemed very serious. After, he gives her a couple of kisses on the cheek and continues to rub her hands/arms. She is all smiles and very gentle, practically blushing the whole time. Slatka...sweet comes up again. He is doing am ITM the next day and the music is very romantic, soaring in spots and he is talking about the history of their love? … perhaps as this is something they can look back upon? Back to their date and he is kissing her  hand again and the same romantic music comes on. You know the type...that is at the end of every romantic movie when the couple finally realise they are meant to be and make their way into the sunset? And cut...

Olga gives a short ITM and we are with Marina talking to the remaining guys. She is asking them about taking the money instead of Olga. It seems to be up to a million rubles which is less than $20,000 Canadian.

Evgeny is first to go see Olga. I think she is asking him about stuff going on between the guys....that Valja told her about.

I have to say that I really enjoy how the cocktail party is done here. There is no interrupting, no fighting for time, because they all know that they will have time to talk to her. Plus, Olga can explain to them exactly why she is letting them go or if she has any concerns. Very civil. Not crazy town like the American versions.

Back to Evgeny and Olga. She seems to be looking for PRAVDU...truth. She must have heard something about how the guys are behaving and seems to be grilling him. She could care less about poor Evgeny, she just wants him to spill the beans. She is apparently so distracted by what he has told her, she even allows him to give her a kiss on the cheek without recoiling!

Next up Sergei. Again Valentine's name is coming up. He must have thrown some of the other guys under the bus during their date. Olga is grilling Sergei also. That was much shorter. Zero chemistry/interest from either of them. Seriously, why he is he still there.

Sasha is up. The shine seems to be off from him. She is grilling him like she did with the previous two. I want to know what she is going on about with all of them! And Valja comes up again. Was he a little tattle tale during their date? We don't get to see him leaving.

There is Denis with more flowers. This time it's hydrangeas. Unlike the previous guys who she had sitting with the table between them, she is standing up with him and leaning on the railing....and smiling and laughing. Oh, that Denis is smooth. Still, she brings up Valentine again and Denis is like STA...what? She is still looking for info and he is not happy. He clearly doesn't want to discuss this, but she is getting emotional and starts crying about her ZIVOT...life. He tells her to SLUSAJ I NE PLACI...listen and don't cry as he wipes away a tear. Then he explains something and she calms down. He gives her a light hug and she moves in for more. He is the only one she really had a conversation with rather than grilling him. He is the only one she allowed herself to be emotional with and he is the only one she really seems to be able to relax with...even though I think he kind of makes her crazy at times. Even in her ITM she is smiling when she talks about him.

Denis is back with the guys and Marina asks him something... I think about his time with Olga...and he just zips his lip. Valja is sent up to Olga next. Marina asks the guys something about him and it is clear that the guys...other than Denis...don't like him.

Back with Valja and Olga and the table is back in place between them and she is once again in drill sergeant mode grilling him. She is telling him something Sasha and Sergei have said. He seems to disagree and seems to want to stay. I think she says she doesn't know who to believe. They are going at it and he just gets up and leaves.

We are back with Marina and the guys and Valja is coming back. He is taking off his jacket and starts walking over to Sasha and is saying something. Next thing I see is it looks like Sasha is throwing a fist and all hell breaks loose. Perfect place to cut the episode.

So this episode just made it clear that Denis is the winner. He kind of makes her crazy, but he makes her laugh, they seem to be able to have serious discussions, she listens to him. He is the only one she seems to relax with and get emotional with and he is the one she is the most physical with. F1. The end.


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Post by sdmom Fri Sep 21, 2018 2:43 am

@Sprite I think now we need to sleuth who is f2.

If she has her way, she probably wants to send everyone else home and keeps Denis alone. Hey! Maybe that’s the twist! (I Wish!)


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Post by Sprite Fri Sep 21, 2018 2:56 am

sdmom wrote:@Sprite I think now we need to sleuth who is f2.

If she has her way, she probably wants to send everyone else home and keeps Denis alone. Hey! Maybe that’s the twist! (I Wish!)

Yes, I was thinking of that today. After her date with Valja, I thought it was going to be him, but now with the fight, I can't see her keeping him. Plus, she was really working all the other guys about him so something is going on there. And he is shorter than her and seems very traditional...little woman in the kitchen and all that...so, I don't think it's him.

I can't see it being Evgeny since she is just not into him. However, she is apparently lightening up on him somewhat and she is starting to get his sense of humour, so he could end up being a dark horse.

Sergei...again....zilch between them. They have barely shown any time with him and Olga. Even Evgeny, gets more air time with her. The only reason I can think for him being F2 is if he really is famous already and has fans, producers might urge her to keep him.

Sasha. I know she was attracted to him, but honestly, I don't see that anymore. Now he is involved in this fight and her mother told her he was immature, I just can't see it. Then again, producers might urge her to keep him.

I think, I may have a better idea after the next episode when I see what the fallout will be from the fight.

What are your thoughts?


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