Jason Tartick - *Sleuthing Spoilers*

To those that love him, why? I'm curious why he is so different than most? This is a Bach pattern, but I hold different resolves from the Admins. Curious on your take.

Ryan Seacrest seems to like Jason and is promoting him to be TB.

Not everyone is going to like Jason and that includes his fellow bachelors. None of us are perfect, let alone anyone who's ever been lead. Jason may or may not have had a date with Taylor but if so, it's not a big deal (unless she shows up on his show a la Nick).    Chris L fell for Peyton but from what I've heard, had already turned down TB. That didn't stop them from trying but in any case, a completely different situation.

I know nothing about the fan encounters other than what's been mentioned here. I don't know the whole story, and whatever story is out there is one side of the story.

There are always rumours flying around and one has the choice to believe or not to believe. I do know, a poster that knows him personally shared some very positive info with us well before the season aired. I do know if I happen to see some comments on IG if I'm looking for something it's all been positive.  

I know his background, his work ethics and his charity involvement. If he was out with Nolan, good for him. Maybe she will be the returnee of the next season.

I do know many bankers who are just like him. Being in that field for too many years to mention, he is no different than many exec's that I have come across over the years. There are nice guys out there at work and outside of their job, and IMO he is one of them just like ChrisL and Roberto who each had their own fans and each had those that didn't care for them.

For me, when I compare what I do know, vs a one sided rumoured story, I'm not going to give any credence to it because there are many facts that I do know that are positive.

I agree with you GA. People seem to take rumor as fact. Rumor has destroyed many people's lives, and reputations. It isn't until the truth actually comes out that there is vindication for the injured party. Unfortunately, by that time, people have already made their opinions based on rumor and refuse to believe otherwise. IMO, fans can be inconsiderate, rude, intrusive, and obnoxious. If they are ignored, well then, this kind of stuff happens. I would rather believe someone who actually knows Jason, vs someone spreading stories on SM.

sosleepy wrote:I also get the impression that Becca does not like this guy and sees through him. His hug and pushing himself on her for an “incredible friendship” was super awkward. You could tell she was side eyeing him. ***IMO***

He’s just not genuine at all. Slime in disguise. I do like his relationship with his brother, but that’s about it.

@sosleepy  If it turns out that Becca has chosen to marry whom many think, Garrett - I can assure you her judgment of anyone or, anything will have absolutely zero value for many because she clearly does not know anything about evaluating good character period, IMO. Her endorsement means nothing to me at this juncture because she’s proven to be somewhat clueless but, she did endorse Jason rather wholeheartedly. JMO

GuardianAngel wrote:I know nothing about the fan encounters other than what's been mentioned here. I don't know the whole story, and whatever story is out there is one side of the story.

There are always rumours flying around and one has the choice to believe or not to believe. I do know, a poster that knows him personally shared some very positive info with us well before the season aired. I do know if I happen to see some comments on IG if I'm looking for something it's all been positive.  

I know his background, his work ethics and his charity involvement. If he was out with Nolan, good for him. Maybe she will be the returnee of the next season.

I do know many bankers who are just like him. Being in that field for too many years to mention, he is no different than many exec's that I have come across over the years. There are nice guys out there at work and outside of their job, and IMO he is one of them just like ChrisL and Roberto who each had their own fans and each had those that didn't care for them.

For me, when I compare what I do know, vs a one sided rumoured story, I'm not going to give any credence to it because there are many facts that I do know that are positive.

@GuardianAngel, @Astrobach  I really value your ability to sort through the IMO contrived negatives to get to the heart of what we actually know versus what detractors want us to think. Negative comments are part of the game whenever anyone, anywhere is highly thought of and this campaign is pretty hollow compared to some others. 
Jason has given them virtually nothing to work with so, the scrambling and conjecture is pretty comical, IMO.

Chgohighlife wrote:

sosleepy wrote:I also get the impression that Becca does not like this guy and sees through him. His hug and pushing himself on her for an “incredible friendship” was super awkward. You could tell she was side eyeing him. ***IMO***

He’s just not genuine at all. Slime in disguise. I do like his relationship with his brother, but that’s about it.

@sosleepy  If it turns out that Becca has chosen to marry whom many think, Garrett - I can assure you her judgment of anyone or, anything will have absolutely zero value for many because she clearly does not know anything about evaluating good character period, IMO. Her endorsement means nothing to me at this juncture because she’s proven to be somewhat clueless but, she did endorse Jason rather wholeheartedly. JMO

Becca’s endorsement of Jason for TB is on an Access video with Ashley. Sorry, I can find it on YouTube but, I couldn’t bring it over.

mbl wrote:@stone_hedge There have been dozens and dozens of incredibly positive fan encounters with Jason.  They are all well documented on Twitter and Instagram.  There could be well over 40+ at this point, maybe more.  People have said that he is so nice, so kind, just lovely things being said.  I know of 2 negative encounters that were posted on reddit and yet those seem to be the only ones mentioned anymore — it’s become an all out sport among certain reddit users to see who can bring those 2 encounters up most frequently.  I don’t dismiss anything, bad or good, which is why I like to have as complete a picture as possible.  A complete picture of the known fan encounters with Jason is, to date, overwhelmingly positive.  

@mbl Thank you for the reality check!!

A little Steven Tartick humor to get the day started. Enjoy

Jason is in NYC today to see Frozen with his brother Steven and Colton came to. Steven may know the star of Frozen, Patti Murin, through Steven’s work as the creative director of a Broadway marketing/advertising firm. If you follow Patti’s Twitter she’s a big Bachelor/Bachelorette fan and she’s so excited for them to come to the show today.

@mindless I just listened to the portion of the Becca Tilley podcast you were referencing last night and what I heard was that the producer doesn’t think it’s a good idea for Tanya to be involved romantically with someone who appears on her show. That’s what he seems to be saying by “is it though?” in response to Tanya saying that Jason being on her show was “so good.” Shortly after saying “is it though?” he follows up with a comment that he’s been producing people in radio for 20 years and she should “get out of the pool.”

So I don’t think anything he said had to do with not being a fan of Jason. He might very well not be a fan of Jason, who knows, but his comments on this particular podcast didn’t appear to have anything to do with Jason in particular.

JMOAA

If anything else, it's Steven's tweets I'll be looking forward to! He is such a hoot. I saw on twitter they had planned that Broadway show a few weeks ago. I'm glad they are enjoying themselves in NYC.

Nibbles22 wrote:I agree with you GA.   People seem to take rumor as fact.  Rumor has destroyed many people's lives, and reputations.  It isn't until the truth actually comes out that there is vindication for the injured party.  Unfortunately, by that time, people have already made their opinions based on rumor and refuse to believe otherwise.   IMO, fans can be inconsiderate, rude, intrusive, and obnoxious.   If they are ignored, well then, this kind of stuff happens.   I would rather believe someone who actually knows Jason, vs someone spreading stories on SM.

ITA - This is becoming a pet peeve of mine. We have always tried to operate on the basis of facts vs rumours simply to avoid being the source of incorrect information, as well as ruining reputations. With regards to the bold, what I have seen over the years, rumours are started simply as revenge for something else.

Maybe Jason wasn't paying any attention to them, maybe they prefer Garrett and everyone else is brought down because of their preference, maybe the chatter in the media about Jason being TB is annoying because they want Blake, who knows. IDK but when I hear rumours, I know there are two sides to a story and I prefer to base my opinions on what I see and what I know to be fact.

That might all change. We have seen so often what this franchise does to people. IMHO he has a good head on his shoulders. IMO He doesn't need to be the bachelor, he appears to be very popular already from what I see.