Arie Luyendyk Jr - Lauren Burnham - Bachelor 22 - Discussion

grace8136 wrote:

Alanna wrote:That "room" is 25 grand a night!!! Can I be next in line, daddy Arie??

I don't know where the article got that number even for high season. If it's the Barcelona or Tower suite it's about $1000 night in March.

https://portal-interactiv.com/BookingEngine/HotelResultC.aspx?codiconc=173&fechaini=22/03/2018&fechafin=23/03/2018&numerohabitaciones=1&edP0_0=30&edP0_1=30&adultohab0=2&ninohab0=0&bebehab0=0&numeropersonas0=2&idiocodi=2&origen_soporte=IBE

umngirl wrote:

Bet2Win wrote:

umngirl wrote:

The photos from the hotel are taken by a professional photographer for promotional purposes and thus the hotel released them to People for the publicity. I haven’t seen one person or couple from the show have these types of photos taken without it being a comped stay. This looks exactly the same. If Arie and Lauren. are being comped, they have to disclose at some point. They should do it on any post from the hotel though if I’m being honest.  

The other celebrities mentioned are just said to be fans of the hotel chain and that doesn’t give me indictation if they were comped stays or not. I don’t feel like trolling through their social media accounts to find out if they were comped. Lol

Every time the show has given a couple a vacation they have mentioned it. And I doubt the show would fly them to Europe on a budget airline such as WOW. It’s like a small step up from Spirit.

All JMO

Okay, thanks.  The pictures of the room look like website pictures, so I have no idea if those were taken for the article, or lifted from the website.  The picture outside the hotel looks anything but professional.  The one inside does look like they were posing for it.

So, does the hotel have to disclose the comp as well?  Who's obligation, the hotel or the person.  And wouldn't People Magazine know the disclosure obligations?  

Sorry for all of the questions, the things I learn from our forum.  

The photos of them are credited to a pro so those were definitely for publicity.

The person or people who are receding the VIK (value in kind), which in this case is a hotel stay, are the only ones obligated to disclose. The hotel nor People have any obligation to say Arie/Lauren received something from the hotel.

Aunties_Love wrote:

sosleepy wrote:I remember when Jason and Molly were ridicululed too. I’ve been around the block and back with this show.  

A few key differences though. Jason had no contact with Molly before he broke up with Melissa, none. Not the case here, not at all. Melissa also had one foot out the door too, as she was already with, or trying to get with Tye. Again, not the case with Becca. Becca was “so in the loop,” yet thought the phone call(s) to Lauren were just to get closure. Not so much. So not really “in the loop” after all.  Jason and Molly always had one story and they stuck to it. They were, IMO, dragged through the mud unnecessarily and I thought so then too. 

No one is faulting Arie (or Jason) for making the switch and having a change of heart. That’s life, and this situation is so complicated, frankly I’m surprised this has only happened 2.5 times (PLo also saw his #2 after the breakup, but that was before the show got wise to turn this post filming crap into a soap opera. ) For me, the huge difference between Jason and Arie is how they went about this. I just find these “cute” socks IG stories, sliding into DMs, calling instead of texting so as to not lead a paper trail so tacky and shady. It’s emotional cheating, no matter how you cut it, IMO. Jason, as far as we know and from everything we’ve ever been told didn’t play those games. So that, to me, is the major difference here.

I do think that it's important to say though that Arie was wanting to contact Lauren for closure.  That is so and he has said so several times.  That was his intent when getting in touch with her to begin with.  IMO, that is getting forgotten in the fray.  IMO, the fact that he DID have good intentions in the beginning with just making sure that Lauren was alright AND that he did it with Becca's blessing.  As far as faulting Arie though.....I keep seeing that he is to blame for the change of heart, switching things up and how that happened.  IMO, it would be far worse for him to just back off of seeing Becca and break up with her ATFR than how he did it.  It did allow her to "get over" him early enough(But really that quick?? mind you maybe not the deep love)that she could have her own season so likely did her a service by breaking it up when he did. all IMO

I will agree with you though.....Melissa brought on the brakeup for the most part because of the actions she had after her plane touched back down in Dallas after filming ended.  She brought on the consequences with her getting in touch with Tye immediately as he was at the airport to pick her up. IMO

sosleepy wrote:

umngirl wrote:

Aunties_Love wrote:
who is #Laurie????????

The stupid couple nickname Arie and Lauren have given themselves. It’s terrible. JMO

They gave themselves a couple name??   

So much for hiding out and staying off social media, peeps! A self made Couple name to go with the #ad #sponsored steady stream of updates. hahaha

Bet2Win wrote:

umngirl wrote:

Bet2Win wrote:

Okay, thanks.  The pictures of the room look like website pictures, so I have no idea if those were taken for the article, or lifted from the website.  The picture outside the hotel looks anything but professional.  The one inside does look like they were posing for it.

So, does the hotel have to disclose the comp as well?  Who's obligation, the hotel or the person.  And wouldn't People Magazine know the disclosure obligations?  

Sorry for all of the questions, the things I learn from our forum.  

The photos of them are credited to a pro so those were definitely for publicity.

The person or people who are receding the VIK (value in kind), which in this case is a hotel stay, are the only ones obligated to disclose. The hotel nor People have any obligation to say Arie/Lauren received something from the hotel.

Thanks!  

So if Arie and Lauren put out anything, they are obligated to disclose. Since they weren't interviewed for this article, there was no opportunity to disclose.  Do I have that right?  

And of course, just so our discussion, which I'm thoroughly enjoying, doesn't take wings and become fact, this is all if in fact they were comp'ed.

I have received comp'ed rooms many times, I guess the difference is I'm not a celeb.     I even had a penthouse comp.

Diana wrote:If opinions don’t matter to them why do they limit their comments? imo

Aunties_Love wrote:

sosleepy wrote:I remember when Jason and Molly were ridicululed too. I’ve been around the block and back with this show.  

A few key differences though. Jason had no contact with Molly before he broke up with Melissa, none. Not the case here, not at all. Melissa also had one foot out the door too, as she was already with, or trying to get with Tye. Again, not the case with Becca. Becca was “so in the loop,” yet thought the phone call(s) to Lauren were just to get closure. Not so much. So not really “in the loop” after all.  Jason and Molly always had one story and they stuck to it. They were, IMO, dragged through the mud unnecessarily and I thought so then too. 

No one is faulting Arie (or Jason) for making the switch and having a change of heart. That’s life, and this situation is so complicated, frankly I’m surprised this has only happened 2.5 times (PLo also saw his #2 after the breakup, but that was before the show got wise to turn this post filming crap into a soap opera. ) For me, the huge difference between Jason and Arie is how they went about this. I just find these “cute” socks IG stories, sliding into DMs, calling instead of texting so as to not lead a paper trail so tacky and shady. It’s emotional cheating, no matter how you cut it, IMO. Jason, as far as we know and from everything we’ve ever been told didn’t play those games. So that, to me, is the major difference here.

I do think that it's important to say though that Arie was wanting to contact Lauren for closure.  That is so and he has said so several times.  That was his intent when getting in touch with her to begin with.  IMO, that is getting forgotten in the fray.  

Kashathediva wrote:

Diana wrote:If opinions don’t matter to them why do they limit their comments? imo

I like to look at things I post both photos and quotes, etc. I would not want to be distracted by negative comments and trolls.

umngirl wrote:

Bet2Win wrote:

umngirl wrote:

If they do not disclose that their hotel stay is comped for free and/or they received some other form of payment for staying there then this is illegal. It’s in violation of the FTC. They have been cracking down on social media ads which is why people use the paid partnership feature on Instagram and use the hashtags #ad, #sponsored. It’s because they have to.

I don't see anywhere in that article that implies Arie is putting the article out.  Everything is according to a source or from the hotel's website.  The other celebs mentioned in the article, if they were also comped, are they in violation as well?  

And if TPTB funded this, does that have to be disclosed?  Serious questions which I do not know the answers to, so I'm asking you, if you know.

The photos from the hotel are taken by a professional photographer for promotional purposes and thus the hotel released them to People for the publicity. I haven’t seen one person or couple from the show have these types of photos taken without it being a comped stay. This looks exactly the same. If Arie and Lauren. are being comped, they have to disclose at some point. They should do it on any post from the hotel though if I’m being honest.  

The other celebrities mentioned are just said to be fans of the hotel chain and that doesn’t give me indictation if they were comped stays or not. I don’t feel like trolling through their social media accounts to find out if they were comped. Lol

Every time the show has given a couple a vacation they have mentioned it. And I doubt the show would fly them to Europe on a budget airline such as WOW. It’s like a small step up from Spirit.

All JMO

Aunties_Love wrote:

umngirl wrote:

Bet2Win wrote:

I don't see anywhere in that article that implies Arie is putting the article out.  Everything is according to a source or from the hotel's website.  The other celebs mentioned in the article, if they were also comped, are they in violation as well?  

And if TPTB funded this, does that have to be disclosed?  Serious questions which I do not know the answers to, so I'm asking you, if you know.

The photos from the hotel are taken by a professional photographer for promotional purposes and thus the hotel released them to People for the publicity. I haven’t seen one person or couple from the show have these types of photos taken without it being a comped stay. This looks exactly the same. If Arie and Lauren. are being comped, they have to disclose at some point. They should do it on any post from the hotel though if I’m being honest.  

The other celebrities mentioned are just said to be fans of the hotel chain and that doesn’t give me indictation if they were comped stays or not. I don’t feel like trolling through their social media accounts to find out if they were comped. Lol

Every time the show has given a couple a vacation they have mentioned it. And I doubt the show would fly them to Europe on a budget airline such as WOW. It’s like a small step up from Spirit.

All JMO

I still don't understand why it is up to Arie and Lauren to specify that it is being comped when they aren't the ones that put it forth.  Meaning, it is the hotel's responsibility to say whether it is comped IMO therefore it won't be Arie nor Lauren that is responsible for that and therefore, they won't get in trouble with legalities.  All IMO