Arie Luyendyk Jr - Lauren Burnham - Bachelor 22 - Discussion

Diana wrote:lauren is clearly okay with this behavior or is in la la land I don't know what is worse
JMO

ReneeM wrote:This explains so much because I did feel she was defensive on his behalf in all the interviews that happened at WTA

BM: She begged him ten times to go! That was the tipping point for me.
KL: Because you were defending him initially, Bekah.
BM: I love Becca and was sad that happened to her, but I was actually siding more with Arie until I saw that. I really was. At the Women Tell All taping it was nice to talk to him and I thought, You know, he changed his mind. Matters of the heart happen, not a huge deal. But then I saw the footage. The choices he made were inexcusable. I know those types of men who stand there after a break-up and are like, Wait baby, but are you okay? Give me assurance this is fine! Make me feel better about myself!  

Seeing the footage changed her opinion of him. Knowing what I know of Arie, I think he probably did some Olivia Pope type spin to justify his actions to Lauren & it's why I feel certain he was definitely the one who manipulated her into not watching the ATFR (even though I doubt she'd care because she doesn't seem to care about others much imo)

Also another interesting tidbit. She confirms he was dm-ing multiple contestants. Making sure he's got a backup to his backup imo. Also TEA at the fact that Lauren doesn't like Bekah . So not only was he dm-ing contestants but also the ones that he knows or at least showld know Lauren doesn't like?

BM: It’s like, when your best friend is dumped by a dude, aren’t you going to be like, He’s garbage? Even if it’s not always justified, you do it because you have your girl’s back. Also, don’t DM your ex! It’s inappropriate, especially given the fact he got back with Lauren through DMs. And I wasn’t the only contestant he was DMing while the show was airing. It wasn’t just me and Lauren, there were other women as well. C’mon, dude.You’re 36, you know better. You’re not oblivious and you know how relationships work.
KL: The fact that he switched to Lauren and was still talking to other girls, it’s not great.
BM: And at the time he DMed me, it was close to the episode when I got sent home. It was us passionately making out and discussing our relationship. And this is the time when you’re like, Thinking of you, hope you’re doing well! I guarantee Lauren didn’t know he was messaging me. Lauren doesn’t like me.
KL: Well, especially not now.
BM: Especially not now, and I’m sure he doesn’t like me, either.

To your knowledge, has Arie maintained relationships with any of the women after the season ended? Like, cordial relationships?
KL: I don’t want to name the other girls he’s talking to. I don’t know if they’re continuing talking to him now, but before there were some.
BM: I had a cordial relationship. I messaged him when he and Becca got engaged and I told Becca I was going to do that.
KL: I made it a point not to talk to him, because making it to a certain point in the show, it might be a little bit weird if I did. But now, I don’t think I would have a problem being friends with him. I don’t wish him ill-will. Once you care about someone and see a potential love with somebody, it’s hard to feel bad in some ways.
BM: Watching everything back, I feel particularly deceived by him in a way. I thought he wasn’t the type of guy who did all of the things that he did.
KL: I saw a different side of him.

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I know some of the women caught flack for seemingly switching up on Arie but I think the last line of the above quote from Kendall sums up the reason why perfectly. And yes this is an interview from Kendall and Bekah but they talk quite a bit about Arie and Lauren and I only brought over quotes about the two.

Mommyof2 wrote:I don't understand the fuss about it in the first place. So, he wanted to send her a message without the whole world watching.  Big deal.  Jmo.

TheWrongReasons wrote:I don’t recall Lauren ever stating that she was engaged twice on the show. The only time I recall her talking about her previous engagement was during her 1st 1-1.

As for the wedding invite thing, it was obvious to me that they meant the IMO exceedingly annoying Bekah M. who has been openly mocking them on SM/in interviews.

Lucas15 wrote:JMHO but I think the whole issue of Arie "DMing" those with whom he's had a past relationship is best explained by something Courtney said in the RS podcast. IIRC she told Arie that he should contact the people he had been dating and tell them he had gotten engaged - so that they would not hear it for the first time when watching a TV show. IMO Arie just took that advice to heart and tried to do just that because it made sense to him. Frankly - it makes sense to me too.

richmondrose wrote:

Lucas15 wrote:JMHO but I think the whole issue of Arie "DMing" those with whom he's had a past relationship is best explained by something Courtney said in the RS podcast. IIRC she told Arie that he should contact the people he had been dating and tell them he had gotten engaged - so that they would not hear it for the first time when watching a TV show. IMO Arie just took that advice to heart and tried to do just that because it made sense to him. Frankly - it makes sense to me too.

I'm slightly confused here. Isn't the bolded the premise of this show? No big surprise for his exes unless they are totally clueless.  

Kashathediva wrote:And Jenni Croft the other part of Brad 1.0  F2 had no clue until the airing that Brad chose no one.