Bachelor 22 - Arie Luyendyk Jr - SM Media - *Sleuthing Spoilers* - #5

Rolly wrote:

northernviewer wrote:I think the term “engaged” has little to no meaning on the Bach.   It’s a mere ritual, and has the same significance as the final rose.   A real life engagement and a Bach engagement is like comparing apples and oranges ... actually, it’s more like comparing grapes and watermelons

So if Arie and Lauren did get engaged last Saturday, is that “real” but what happened in the finale wasn’t? It wouldn’t surprise me at all if they are engaged. Arie been engaged twice in less than 4 months.Bad judgement over and over again I think. He probably feels that he needs to prove to Lauren he really means it this time. 

If Becca take the gig and "possible" get engaged she will be doing the same thing, but I guess that's different. JMO

I don’t blame Becca for any of Aries actions. I also have no respect for Lauren either if I’m being really honest and that’s my right & opinion to have. They are both just so gross, Becca truly wins when she’s the ette and these two end up alone

JMHO

pbmax wrote:

Rolly wrote:

northernviewer wrote:I think the term “engaged” has little to no meaning on the Bach.   It’s a mere ritual, and has the same significance as the final rose.   A real life engagement and a Bach engagement is like comparing apples and oranges ... actually, it’s more like comparing grapes and watermelons

So if Arie and Lauren did get engaged last Saturday, is that “real” but what happened in the finale wasn’t? It wouldn’t surprise me at all if they are engaged. Arie been engaged twice in less than 4 months.Bad judgement over and over again I think. He probably feels that he needs to prove to Lauren he really means it this time. 

If Becca take the gig and "possible" get engaged she will be doing the same thing, but I guess that's different. JMO

Actually if Becca was dumped mid January her engagement would be mid to early May. Five weeks for Arie, five months for Becca. So around four extra months for Becca. Still short, but not quite the same. IMO.

I can understand that Arie may be to blame in all this chaos, but what did Lauren do? She obviously had/has feelings for Arie and decided to take him back. He initiated contact with her. Not the other way around. She wasn't liking his IG pictures on December 4th. I just don't understand why she is getting blamed for Arie's decision. As Caroline said, it isn't Lauren's fault. Jmhoaa.

Where did I blame her for his actions? I just said I have no respect for her. She knew he was engaged and still talked to him and got with him literally days after he broke Becca’s heart and accepted a proposal six weeks later. It’s not her fault but I don’t have to like her just like not everyone has to like Becca

JMHO

stuckinsc wrote:

pbmax wrote:

Rolly wrote:

So if Arie and Lauren did get engaged last Saturday, is that “real” but what happened in the finale wasn’t? It wouldn’t surprise me at all if they are engaged. Arie been engaged twice in less than 4 months.Bad judgement over and over again I think. He probably feels that he needs to prove to Lauren he really means it this time. 

If Becca take the gig and "possible" get engaged she will be doing the same thing, but I guess that's different. JMO

Actually if Becca was dumped mid January her engagement would be mid to early May. Five weeks for Arie, five months for Becca. So around four extra months for Becca. Still short, but not quite the same. IMO.

Ok I thought so 4 months is the appropriate time between engagements

stuckinsc wrote:

pbmax wrote:

Rolly wrote:

So if Arie and Lauren did get engaged last Saturday, is that “real” but what happened in the finale wasn’t? It wouldn’t surprise me at all if they are engaged. Arie been engaged twice in less than 4 months.Bad judgement over and over again I think. He probably feels that he needs to prove to Lauren he really means it this time. 

If Becca take the gig and "possible" get engaged she will be doing the same thing, but I guess that's different. JMO

Actually if Becca was dumped mid January her engagement would be mid to early May. Five weeks for Arie, five months for Becca. So around four extra months for Becca. Still short, but not quite the same. IMO.

Besides the Bachelorette just has better odds than the Bachelor period. Becca has a much better chance at lasting and marrying her F1 than Arie does with Lauren. The female leads take this all much more seriously and put more effort into these relationships than the male leads do. So yeah I actually do think it's different.

I wish Arie and Lauren the best. If they actually do last and get married then I'll be happy for them and admit I was wrong. He's just given me no reason though to think he's some special exception like Sean and Jason and every reason for me to believe he's just going to be like most of the other Bachelors.

All JMO.

Aunties_Love wrote:

SeekAny wrote:It seems like everyone knew what Arie was going to do but Becca, his fiancé. That’s the worst part.

If we are to believe RS and for me, there seems to be some weight to it, Becca knew that there were feelings towards Lauren from Arie so no, I don't think this was a complete surprise and blindside to Becca.  Again, just going by the lack of SHV, IMO, the writing was on the wall and IMO, she should of seen it.

I don't see how "Becca being aware of Arie's feelings" is some shocking revelation from RS. Call me crazy but I think most F1s are aware that the lead was, up until their FRC, pursuing relationships with multiple people. Emotional, physical and often sexual with at least 2 other people. And, the F2, by process of elimination would be the second most serious relationship in the allotted time period. So regardless of what RS says, I think most F1s would be cognizant of the lead having some feelings toward the F2, possibly even talking it out to move past it and forward with their new relationship.  

All IMO.

bluwavz wrote:

stuckinsc wrote:

pbmax wrote:

If Becca take the gig and "possible" get engaged she will be doing the same thing, but I guess that's different. JMO

Actually if Becca was dumped mid January her engagement would be mid to early May. Five weeks for Arie, five months for Becca. So around four extra months for Becca. Still short, but not quite the same. IMO.

Besides the Bachelorette just has better odds than the Bachelor period. Becca has a much better chance at lasting and marrying her F1 than Arie does with Lauren. The female leads take this all much more seriously and put more effort into these relationships than the male leads do. So yeah I actually do think it's different.

I wish Arie and Lauren the best. If they actually do last and get married then I'll be happy for them and admit I was wrong. He's just given me no reason though to think he's some special exception like Sean and Jason and every reason for me to believe he's just going to be like most of the other Bachelors.

All JMO.

One thing for sure, time will tell.

Diana wrote:Where did I blame her for his actions? I just said I have no respect for her. She knew he was engaged and still talked to him and got with him literally days after he broke Becca’s heart and accepted a proposal six weeks later. It’s not her fault but I don’t have to like her just like not everyone has to like Becca

JMHO

I guess I took your comment about her being gross the wrong way. Listen, I like Lauren and I like Becca. They are both lovely girls, but I don't think they are to blame in this fiasco. As I said before, this is the first season where I like both of the F2. Jmho.

We should burn them all at the stake. JMO
Let's make it real interesting and throw in a few MOT women. Krystal will be happy to light the flame.

If (when imo) Lauren ends up being another on Arie's seemingly endless list of women who 'should have known', she'll be getting no sympathy from me. In fact I'll be laughing my azz off if I'm being really honest. There's a saying I've heard all my life regarding these situations "how you get him is you'll lose him".