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Post by GuardianAngel Fri Nov 24, 2017 1:47 pm

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BlackHalo wrote:I'm watching the episode right now and between this week and last week I still see Mikaela being his frontrunner. If she has been confident it's because he gives her reason to be.

"I was just concerned about whether your family would accept me or not." Those are not words that would make me question where I stand.

JMO.

Isn't that typical though.....the producers have to step up other people's connection to give a viable ending?  Meaning, if they didn't do that, then everyone would know that it's a one horse race with Lyndsey and therefore, why watch?  I have seen that so many times so just wondering if it's happening with Mikaela as the F2 yet again?

On one hand I hope you are right and Lyndsey is f1 because I actually really like Lyndsey so much more than mikaela but I just can’t shake Lyndsey’s SM IMO she seems so sad ...

Just a random thought- I  wonder if Lyndsey might still walk away from Chris and hence why he picked mikaela as default...and maybe mikaela found out hence the break up Embarressed!  scratch sorry that is probably such a wild theory but hey I just can’t understand this spoiler  hmmm  console


BlackHalo wrote:They didn't have to "step up" his connection with Mik though. It's been there. JMO.

Aunties_Love wrote:IMO @BlackHalo, Mikaela was way in the distance and hidden till epi 6.  In epi 4 she was shown a little but epi 6 she shot ahead....just in time for how the edit usually goes...make a relationship out of the F2/F3 person to take the heat off the F1.  That is how so many seasons have gone.

As far as the spoiler, I am having a hard time reckoning it to what we are seeing in the edit, SM  clues, Stat's clues, and just the general edit.  The spoiler IMO only makes sense if it is one of Mikaela's fans sending RS the info....for all we know, it could be the same person who did the tweet.  I just can't recon Chris telling anyone the ending as he'd be in a major legal hotwater problem.  I just can't see himself opening up to that.

LynnTa wrote:From what I saw the connection between Chris and Mik was there right fro the beginning --from night one. Chris has said that in every episode since then even in those episodes where Mik isn't highlighted. Epi. 2 Chris talks about their Chemistry  like flame that would turn into fire.  I think that is proof enough.   Episode 4 just put the spotlight on their chemistry  that was already there and epi. 6 it was on display since that was her 1:1.  Chris describes their relationship as being on an"" upward trajectory": he said being with Mik" felt right"   and that their relationship had a funny playful  almost like best friend side and the other side was romantic and passionate.In Epi6 that he was looking forward to passionate ,romantic side .  &  Chris saying he is concerned about whether Mik's family will like him is very telling. We have seen from past seasons that the Lead worries about being accepted/liked by the the F1's family. They didn't show us Chris as having the same concerns with Ly &  Catie.
With Lyn, yes he finds her very attractive and "very young". I haven't heard  Chris talk about his relationship with her making any progress  other than kissing . (In the case of kissing, Chris is kissing everyone anyway....).He still talks about her age the same convo they had Epi.2 on the 1st date. Even bringing it up on Epi.7. I'm sure they talked about other things but the Producers chose not to show us--Why? is it because it doesn't any value to their story or because the producers want to "hide" their love
story ?
As for Lyn getting anxious, I think its because she sees "him falling in love with other girls" & she has given him his heart and isn't getting any assurance from him (imo). I think she feels he isn't giving her positive feedback  like he did with Mik. Her angst is coming from the not knowing how Chris feels. From past seasons we know that the Lead gives the F1 assurances, little gestures,signs,positive feedbacks---without having to say the words. Chris has been talking about his feelings for Mik and wanting to let her
know how he feels. AJMO
Anyway the good thing about this is--viewers can choose which love story they want to see --  -that's the beauty of this Forum!!

GuardianAngel wrote:
LynnTa wrote:snipped

Anyway the good thing about this is--viewers can choose which love story they want to see --  -that's the beauty of this Forum!!

So true! yes


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Post by Sprite Fri Nov 24, 2017 2:06 pm

@LynnTa The problem with Chris is that he gives reassurance to everyone....until he sends them home. I'm sure Catie was reassured on the 2:1 when he said that when he imagined himself with someone 50 years from now it was her.


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Post by LynnTa Fri Nov 24, 2017 2:29 pm

@Sprite, you are right. Yes he does .
I guess its all about how each girl is receiving and assessing the feed back they are getting from Chris. For some, like Mik she seems satisfied(for now) with what Chris is giving her and maybe that's why she appears to be confident in their relationship.
Lyn, in Epi. 7 doesn't look like she has much confidence in the relationship which made me think that she wasn't getting enough of the positive feedback that she needs-- JMO

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Post by Aunties_Love Fri Nov 24, 2017 2:48 pm

LynnTa wrote:@Sprite, you are right. Yes he does .
I guess its all about how each girl is receiving and assessing the feed back they are getting from Chris. For some, like Mik she seems satisfied(for now) with what Chris is giving her and maybe  that's why she appears to be confident in their relationship.
Lyn, in Epi. 7 doesn't look like she has much confidence in the relationship which made me think that she wasn't getting enough of the positive feedback that she needs-- JMO
IMO, the bolded is exactly what happens at this timing of the game. The prospective F1 starts seeing the other connections, starts hearing the rumblings from handlers and producers that there are others there that are maybe having better connections than the prospective F1. We know this has happened in past seasons and I really see that happening with Lyndsey right now. IMO, she may not be getting any great feedback from producers, handlers and because those two are keeping Chris busier right now, maybe Chris isn't picking up on her hints??


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Post by LynnTa Fri Nov 24, 2017 3:17 pm

Yes, Producers would be whispering things at this point to everybody I think. Nevertheless, If Lyn had confidence in the relationship, she wouldn't be doubting and questioning where she stands with him ,she would be jealous (that's normal) of his relationship with the others. Because Chris is busier at this point shouldn't stop him from giving her the reassurance she needs. He had some private time with her.
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Post by LynnTa Fri Nov 24, 2017 3:37 pm

During their sitdown in Epi7, she tells him that she was scare to lose him even if he wasn't hers--- to me that sounds like she is looking at this as a one sided relationship. An indication to me that Chris hasn't reassured her that he wants it too. He gave Mik a reassurance after her 1:1.
I just think that there is a difference between questioning the existence of a relationship and being worried(jelous) that someone or something may lead to a breakup.

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Post by LynnTa Fri Nov 24, 2017 4:53 pm

If we can determine who Chris is referring to when he is crying to his mother we might be able to figure out before FRC who picks/or wants to pick....

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Post by jojo47 Fri Nov 24, 2017 5:13 pm

LynnTa wrote:If we can determine who Chris is referring to when he is crying to his mother we might be able to figure out  before FRC who picks/or wants to pick....

Who knows, by that point, it could have been a situation where Chris knew he didn't want to propose to either girl.

If it's true they broke up a week later, I'm not convinced his pick of anyone is wholehearted.
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Post by hdman Fri Nov 24, 2017 5:43 pm

Lets hope RS is wrong.

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Post by BlackHalo Fri Nov 24, 2017 5:57 pm

LynnTa wrote:@Sprite, you are right. Yes he does .
I guess its all about how each girl is receiving and assessing the feed back they are getting from Chris. For some, like Mik she seems satisfied(for now) with what Chris is giving her and maybe  that's why she appears to be confident in their relationship.
Lyn, in Epi. 7 doesn't look like she has much confidence in the relationship which made me think that she wasn't getting enough of the positive feedback that she needs-- JMO

This is exactly the way I see it. And if we wanna compare prior seasons, I feel like many of the F1's don't really show any doubt until the final 3 or final 2, when it is closer to the ultimate decision. That is unless they are already getting the jealous edit, Lyndsey just acts like she isn't getting the reassurance or producers have chosen not to show it. You can even see on Mikaela's face when Chris comes and sits down with them. She is calm and happy compared to Lyndsey and Stacey. It's like she knows she's getting a hometown date. JMO.

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Post by Guest Fri Nov 24, 2017 6:15 pm

BlackHalo wrote:
LynnTa wrote:@Sprite, you are right. Yes he does .
I guess its all about how each girl is receiving and assessing the feed back they are getting from Chris. For some, like Mik she seems satisfied(for now) with what Chris is giving her and maybe  that's why she appears to be confident in their relationship.
Lyn, in Epi. 7 doesn't look like she has much confidence in the relationship which made me think that she wasn't getting enough of the positive feedback that she needs-- JMO

This is exactly the way I see it. And if we wanna compare prior seasons, I feel like many of the F1's don't really show any doubt until the final 3 or final 2, when it is closer to the ultimate decision. That is unless they are already getting the jealous edit, Lyndsey just acts like she isn't getting the reassurance or producers have chosen not to show it. You can even see on Mikaela's face when Chris comes and sits down with them. She is calm and happy compared to Lyndsey and Stacey. It's like she knows she's getting a hometown date. JMO.

I will post some SC tonight but I noticed that chris held his hand far far away when he went for a chat. i wonder if she was asked by him first. Lindsey and stacy made a face. Lindsey also made a face when kait received the reinsurance rose when she pulled her heart out telling him i am yours. He said he wanted to give the rose to the person who he felt opened the most and that should be rewarded.... considering lindsey told him I am yours, that sucked big time from her perspective I think. I did not see any reinsurance lately from Chris to Lindsey. I am sure many thing were left out but she reacted like episode Bomba... he gave me the reinsurance he did not even know he needed to give me (hang on). She was waiting for that at the CP ep7 but did not get it of course since CP was cancelled..... thanks to prods who knew perfectly well the consequences of that

From my perspective, he was on another "after show" level with mikaela. Did they talk hometown, maybe. Mikaela just had her SD and it ended well. While Lindsey had this aphrodisiac GD and her last 1-1 was long ago. This also explain lindsey puppy eyes because she is insecure because he made her insecure or she compared herself to all the girls who seemed also confident (yes i am talking to you kait and stacy).

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Post by LynnTa Fri Nov 24, 2017 7:11 pm

@HEA, I noticed that too and from the way Chris stretched his arm to take Mik's hand ,it looks like he asked her for a chat and Lyn and stacy exchanged a "look" . It looks like their connection was way too mush for the other girls given the looks they exchanged. Mik looked very comfortable during that GD after party-.I think that the sit down during the party was in view of the other girls that could be why they were sitting at arm's length

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