Bachelor Canada - Season 3 - Chris Leroux - Episode Discussion - *Sleuthing Spoilers* - #2

Date with Mikaela was not great but as I suspected they started to have a serious talk on the ship and at dinner. lot of edits such we did not see them jumping from the boat. They kissed, they had fun and they talked. Mikeala came excited and confident but after the talk on boat, she was upset and deflated although happy that the real questions and conversation happened and kinda not remain on the happy/happy all is good until it is not.

I think he was very honest with her. Raised his concerns and did not want to give her false hopes that she was the one when in his head Lindsey was also a valid option.

The very interesting part was when Chris said that he felt as if he almost lost Mikaela and all of a sudden he realized he did not want it and was afraid of it. So for me, up to this discussion, his mind was very Lindsey oriented until he realized that Mikaela took way more room than he thought and wanted her in his life..... which reminds me the saying that we did not hear but could have been said during this date: I cannot deny I want her in my life.

The dinner portion with Mikaela was about talking. It is obvious that between the pirate boat and the dinner, they went different ways to do the PIs, then rejoined for the dinner. So Mikaela had time to assimilate and talk about the elephant in the room and I have to applaud her for that. She did not shy away and pretend everything was perfect and seduce him for the fantasy night.

ETA: it is during the 2nd portion of the date with mikaela that he said that he was afraid he lost her etc and added do not give up on me

IMO, he was very confused. And IMO he picked the perfect on paper choice at the end... which is a first in this franchise but i honestly think he did.

I think his talk with his mom was eye opening for him. Her mom revealed that he had 2 long distance relationship that did not work and pinpointed that because he was 18 when he joined the baseball league and surrendered by a bunch of guy and learned early age to do not share his emotions, he recognized that he probably messed up good relationships.

and this is where I have an issue that he thought about Lindsey. Conversation with Mikaela was about opening up. Mom conversation with Mikaela was about opening up. Mo conversation with Chris was about opening up.... but I did not feel the issue with Lindsey was opening up at all.

Chris saw how upset his mom was about him moving to Vancouver and Chris also said that he was so looking forward for his dad BBQ chicken.

The date with Lindsey started off. Chris confirmed it. Something was off with Lindsey (the mud part). Then they had this spiritual part where we know Chris is not very fond of (aka Catie). This is not his thing. From this purification, they went straight to the bench. no dinner. and as I suspected no way shape or form, Lindsey refused the fantasy card. this was not gonna happen.

Now........ what I found EXTREMELY interesting was right in the middle of the fantasy date with Lindsey, we had a Mikaela segment with her walking on the beach ( :Woah-hoo: I sleuthed right her black dress and her calves!!)... she talked about being afraid, her doubts, her certainty he was the man of her dreams, about being terrifying loosing him.... in fact I felt as if SHE was the lead.

So prods did the same with Lindsey. From mud and purrification, they did the PIs, separate ways and straight to the bench. Lindsey admitted that her family did not give Chris a chance.... now all the words Lindsey said to her mom or to him, even if they seemed genuine, somehow seemed forced... as if she was trying too hard to convinced them. I adore the way chris makes ME feel... I'll always have your back... His mom pinpointed it right: Lindsey was not willing to compromise about moving away from family and Vancouver.

I just would like to add that Mikaela did not wear the conservative dress we saw her crying into. So we can take it all the ways we want: she was eliminated before the finale or Chris had another heavy conversation with her.

The edits I saw tonight are directing Lindsey as the only finale choice. Chris used strong words like Lindsey had the X factor, was not sure Mikaela had it. That he had butterflies with Lindsey and keep her awake at night.... BUT.

I saw the real struggle to chose the right girl. Howeve, I agree with Roz: Lindsey HTD broke severely the momentum he had with Lindsey. I think, like roz, from that point he tried to find excuses to say Lindsey was not the one. Chris was visibly upset to upset his parents. He is definitely very very close to them and he could see how heartbroken they would be if he moved to Vancouver.

So IMO, Chris will pick Mikaela, the great on paper safer choice....

After tonight, I tend to believe now that Chris and Mikaela did not last after the finale. Or if they are today an item, it would be with ups and downs for the last 6 months to arrive to a normal relationship without anybody but them involved.

Now maybe he picked Mikaela and we will see a Mesmik? possible but I doubt it. Chris bought a house in Toronto and this eliminate the possible move to Vancouver and start a live with Lindsey

Edits definitely pushed the limits to make us believe Lindsey is his choice and his little chris and himself are in agreement to pick Lindsey... But I believe he will realize that for once he does not want to sabotage a relationship like Mikaeala and that will be the edits for the finale

ALL is JMO

Very interesting episode ... I enjoyed it actually.   Mik got the buddy edit and a buddy date IMO pirate ship and pirates, so lame ..... she seemed so matter of fact ... said all the right words but with little to no emotion.   She didn’t get much of a fantasy suite ... itwas more of a hut

Lindsey’s date was very intimate and sensual and he was much more into her date and I think he chose it just so he could get his hands on her and have her massage him.... all over....the emotion and chemistry is definitely there!  Her fantasy suite was much nicer ..... it looked same as the one her parents were in .... did they just clean up after Chris and Lindsey left and then the parents moved in?! Haha ...yuck....   I’ll go see if you can see a room number in it ...( dont think exact same suite but similar)

Parents liked both girls but definitely wanted him to pick Mik because she lived in TO and was older.   I know they didn’t say the words but their conversations said it loud and clear.  They were just as sceptical as Lindsey’s parents but they “packaged” it differently.

I know Lindsey and her sisters are downplaying what happened on HTDS but all the conversations that took place today confirmed that it was real even though it may have been exaggerated in the edit.  

If he doesn’t choose Lindsey.... it was cold feet Chris who made that decision as he clearly didn’t have more genuine feelings for a Mik than he had for Linds ...

After show, majority thought Lindsey... a few no one and one guy said Mik even thought he likes Linds better ... I thought ... ya right, you’ve heard the spoiler

^^ yep... i love how Wells and Roz did not shy away saying that the sisters were B*** (not verbatim) and great show

but I also love that Roz said that he was taken aback that the families did not catch the concept of 13 year baseball retirement... and they showed us a clip of that

but i am sure everyone notice the MAJOR edit of both dads they included to chris explanation. we never saw them with chris saying it. However, with the sisters we saw them grilling him on that. so for me only one family did not get the concept.

also I would like to add that they cut a lot to give rooms with mom and chris talking. and for me the date with lindsey was LUST versus TALKING with Mikaela... Lindsey caught up during the 2nd portion of the date but so as Mikaela who continued the serious talking.

also................. Mikaela Leroux............... laughing... and for me this was a cut and past from the finale even if I think they joked about it in the fantasy suite. i need to rewatch this but i am pretty positive that the Mikaela Leroux was a VO.

It could be he picked mika for what looks good on paper. Lyndsey left her on third base and was to scarred to get the home run. Which seemed he really liked everything about her (Lyndsey )but for what ever reason didn't follow his heart.

I used to believe that in this show deep conversation would win out over physical attraction. But because I have never seen that happen I no longer believe it will.
Lydnsey's sisters tried to put a stop to the FS but that didn't happen. Lyndsey's sisters said she would never move to Toronto. IMO that will happen. Lyndsey loves Chris with her whole heart. I watched Episode 8 (yes I am an episode behind) and IMO the way she spontaneously kissed Chris's cheek in the apple orchard was so sweet. And I also believe Chris sees genuine, caring, loving qualities in Lyndsey, not just lust.

IMO if he chose Mik over Lindsey ... it would be for same reason Travis Stork chose his F1... cuz she lived in same city and would be easier to dump...

@HEA..."his little chris and himself are in agreement to pick Lyn...." It has happened before,so it won't be shocker imo

Can we really see Lindsey moving to Toronto, in the big city, with all her love about hiking, her beloved huge dog, her family, her love for nature... her love for music sharing this band with her "friend"?

do we really?

because I don't.

and I think @northernviewer we did not watch the same show. I heard chirs saying love story with mikaela, I heard him saying he fell for her since day 1, thinking of her constantly...

did he pick the easy choice. maybe. probably. but to say that picking would be easier to dump her... really?

JMO

LynnTa wrote:@HEA..."his little chris and himself are in agreement to pick Lyn...."      It has happened before,so it won't be shocker  imo

TRUE!

This whole age thing is getting on my nerves ... my husband was 13 years older than me (I say was cuz im a widow) and it never mattered much. Love is love when it happens and you just go with it. Did I plan it ? No, did I go looking for an older man? No...But when we fell in love, it was natural and right and I never regretted it for a moment. People, even though we’ll meaning .....need to butt out! Not their decision to make...or their place to judge.

HEA wrote:Can we really see Lindsey moving to Toronto, in the big city, with all her love about hiking, her beloved huge dog, her family, her love for nature... her love for music sharing this band with her "friend"?

do we really?

because I don't.

and I think @northernviewer we did not watch the same show. I heard chirs saying love story with mikaela, I heard him saying he fell for her since day 1, thinking of her constantly...

did he pick the easy choice. maybe. probably. but to say that picking would be easier to dump her... really?

JMO

As per the spoiler ... that’s the way it happened, if the spoiler is true...

HEA wrote:Can we really see Lindsey moving to Toronto, in the big city, with all her love about hiking, her beloved huge dog, her family, her love for nature... her love for music sharing this band with her "friend"?

do we really?

because I don't.

and I think @northernviewer we did not watch the same show. I heard chirs saying love story with mikaela, I heard him saying he fell for her since day 1, thinking of her constantly...

did he pick the easy choice. maybe. probably. but to say that picking would be easier to dump her... really?

JMO

I thought Lydnsey had lived in New York City? Love makes people move countries if they have to.