Bachelor Canada - Season 3 - Chris Leroux - Episode Discussion - *Sleuthing Spoilers* - #2

Pinkgirl wrote:I have never seen something so cut and paste to a degree that everyone ( almost everyone) believe that a family that has friends family co workers etc. Would go on T V and display that kind of behaviour I don't believe it for one minute. If you go back and slow motion it backwards and forwards you can see that mostly all of it was cut and paste. Lyndsey is very humble and was very caring in the show through out so far. So you mean to say that she is the only one in that family that has that personality. DO NOT believe it for a second. When dad was talking about the love thing go back check it out was that not super edited. Yes I believe those conversations took place but not like that. So even if you want Mikaele to be F1 , I don't think it helps by discussing how horrible this family is , imo the show wants you to believe it and most people are following right were they want you too. I'm not convinced she is F1 but I'm not convinced Mikaela is F1 either. Also go back slow motion there goodbye after Lyndsey and Chris check out there face expressions the smiles , the grins. Was not bad at all. Need to read between the lines or should I say the clips they pasted together. Pretty phoney if you ask me. Ask yourself why in the world would a family go to that degree no reason at all.  They did this with lots of home towns but this one was absolutely horrible the production team should be ashamed that they went that far.  Maybe love was so undeniable that they went to far ,  This is all my opinion

Pinkgirl wrote:I have never seen something so cut and paste to a degree that everyone ( almost everyone) believe that a family that has friends family co workers etc. Would go on T V and display that kind of behaviour I don't believe it for one minute. If you go back and slow motion it backwards and forwards you can see that mostly all of it was cut and paste. Lyndsey is very humble and was very caring in the show through out so far. So you mean to say that she is the only one in that family that has that personality. DO NOT believe it for a second. When dad was talking about the love thing go back check it out was that not super edited. Yes I believe those conversations took place but not like that. So even if you want Mikaele to be F1 , I don't think it helps by discussing how horrible this family is , imo the show wants you to believe it and most people are following right were they want you too. I'm not convinced she is F1 but I'm not convinced Mikaela is F1 either. Also go back slow motion there goodbye after Lyndsey and Chris check out there face expressions the smiles , the grins. Was not bad at all. Need to read between the lines or should I say the clips they pasted together. Pretty phoney if you ask me. Ask yourself why in the world would a family go to that degree no reason at all.  They did this with lots of home towns but this one was absolutely horrible the production team should be ashamed that they went that far.  Maybe love was so undeniable that they went to far ,  This is all my opinion

4health wrote:

HEA wrote:

4health wrote:@HEA I didn't quote you since it was so long LOL but I just wanted to comment and say that I can see all that you are putting out there.   I think it's great!  I just have to say that I remember during Tim/April season and even Jasmine's season that the edit was misleading.  In Tim's season we sleuthed until the finale and then the dress from the designer tipped us that we were reading the edit incorrectly.  It was so misdirected IMO that I stopped sleuthing and being so pulled in.  IMO bachcan is the one franchise that is the hardest to sleuth the F1.  I watch all franchise seasons internationally etc.     IMO the AUS franchise is my least favorite due to so many spoilers, media links etc    So, I say keep your thoughts coming and I never stop.  I love it!  I might not see exactly like you do but I can see the possibilities.

This last episode I find very difficult to understand or process one big thing.....Chris on camera saying "I love Lindsey and I have for a long time".   I would not like to be the final girl unless I was Lyn, because if I was Mik and re-watching this I wouldn't be too happy.   So since this has happened months ago if Mik was the F1 then I understand RS spoiler and the editing team put it in there because they know Chris is single and not with Mik.   So, that makes me think he is either single now or picked Lyndsey.  IMO

truth i that we see a very little part of what is said
do  we know if he said the same thing about mikaela but cutting room did not show us
do you remember emily/brad/chantal and how furious emily was about edits? emily said that no wonder everyone thought chantal was F1
all the girls are not safe regarding the edits... see catie. she was edited like the loco of the gang. she is intense, sure, but the edits were not nice to her, music and speed talking

RS can be right, wrong or half right.
if the person is genuine and got this spoiler long ago... who knows if the couple came back together after?
if the person is not genuine, she may have created this "one week after" exaggerating ... which I think it is because 13 days after the presume finale june 2, mikaela posted on her IG  H A P P Y and such.

yes. chances are they are all single or whatever moved on with their life..... but I keep hope that mikaela IG is telling me a story.... either still in love or either promoting is yet to see after the finale. That the only reason why i will care to check the interviews after the finale.

sadly many of us are jaded about this show... but i keep thinking about my favorite couple of all time, ashley and JP... and love do happen. But yeah, i  will be very very surprise if chris and mike marry.... but we just assume right now.

@HEA I see what you are saying about the bold part .... the US Franchise is so different than Canada.  We as sleuthers (me not so much since tim's season)are jaded because we do watch this show so different then the average viewer.   Back in the day, the franchise released screencaps and press release images etc. to which it was a different time because SM never really played a role, plus you had RS ever more involved then he is with this franchise.     But, if you just watched the show and blocked all that out, the show you can see that it was Emily and using all the little patterns and screencaps from previews etc. made it easier.   But, ever since Canada series started tbtp IMO you can't compare this franchise to US, different editing team and they have always done it different.    IMO Canada bach seasons they don't really hide the love story but they do over-focus on the F2 love story.  Bianka there was a love story but their time together was over edited same as Tim & April IMO and with Jasmine Kevin was edited but highlighted the difficulty of jealousy to where he wasn't liked by the viewers and they showed the F2 as the romantic love story.   The one thing when comparing all of these Canada shows I ask myself "Who is the person telling us about their love story?"  Canada Season 1 - Whitney  Season 2 - Trisha  Bette Season 1 - Mikhel.....these F2 are the ones expressing love and I have always said the first person to say "I am in love with you" to the bachelor or bachelorette is not the winner.  This time Mik was the very first one in the show to say that.  So I will wait to see if that holds true again, for that reason Mik is F1 JMO

tatladylu wrote:Let's be honest here...who would be open to this kind of process? This bachelor thing is a weird thing!! When you see your daughter and sister head over heels for some guy she hasn't known a long time AND is still "dating" other girls, that would really worry me!! It's a normal reaction to voice concern and skepticism. I would hope that the others families would be the same and it was edited out.

And, let's repeat again, dialogue and even facial expressions are edited to make Lyndsey's "difficulties" believable. If they didn't do that, her story would be a done deal, right?

That's what I think anyway!

Pinkgirl wrote:I have never seen something so cut and paste to a degree that everyone ( almost everyone) believe that a family that has friends family co workers etc. Would go on T V and display that kind of behaviour I don't believe it for one minute. If you go back and slow motion it backwards and forwards you can see that mostly all of it was cut and paste. Lyndsey is very humble and was very caring in the show through out so far. So you mean to say that she is the only one in that family that has that personality. DO NOT believe it for a second. When dad was talking about the love thing go back check it out was that not super edited. Yes I believe those conversations took place but not like that. So even if you want Mikaele to be F1 , I don't think it helps by discussing how horrible this family is , imo the show wants you to believe it and most people are following right were they want you too. I'm not convinced she is F1 but I'm not convinced Mikaela is F1 either. Also go back slow motion there goodbye after Lyndsey and Chris check out there face expressions the smiles , the grins. Was not bad at all. Need to read between the lines or should I say the clips they pasted together. Pretty phoney if you ask me. Ask yourself why in the world would a family go to that degree no reason at all.  They did this with lots of home towns but this one was absolutely horrible the production team should be ashamed that they went that far.  Maybe love was so undeniable that they went to far ,  This is all my opinion

HEA wrote:

Pinkgirl wrote:I have never seen something so cut and paste to a degree that everyone ( almost everyone) believe that a family that has friends family co workers etc. Would go on T V and display that kind of behaviour I don't believe it for one minute. If you go back and slow motion it backwards and forwards you can see that mostly all of it was cut and paste. Lyndsey is very humble and was very caring in the show through out so far. So you mean to say that she is the only one in that family that has that personality. DO NOT believe it for a second. When dad was talking about the love thing go back check it out was that not super edited. Yes I believe those conversations took place but not like that. So even if you want Mikaele to be F1 , I don't think it helps by discussing how horrible this family is , imo the show wants you to believe it and most people are following right were they want you too. I'm not convinced she is F1 but I'm not convinced Mikaela is F1 either. Also go back slow motion there goodbye after Lyndsey and Chris check out there face expressions the smiles , the grins. Was not bad at all. Need to read between the lines or should I say the clips they pasted together. Pretty phoney if you ask me. Ask yourself why in the world would a family go to that degree no reason at all.  They did this with lots of home towns but this one was absolutely horrible the production team should be ashamed that they went that far.  Maybe love was so undeniable that they went to far ,  This is all my opinion

although i agree that a lot were edited, not all...

her dad talking
the sister who told him no fantasy card
the laughs and mockery during their PI
never looking in his eyes
mocking him that he did only one hiking, no camping

i mean.... they said it, nobody else but them... we all saw he was not welcome but tolerated. Cutting room work with the material avalable.

sorry but for me they were a bunch of rude people; period

and if we have doubt, lets just check chris sayings and body language............; this should be enough to tell us how he felt during this hometown.....

4health wrote:

@HEA @Pinkgirl that is what makes this so much fun is different point of views and opinions.  Once again I want to point out that Mik's dad said some pretty inappropriate things also during the HTD.  The difference is the edit didn't highlight it and also didn't play awful suspense music to also highlight it.  
Example;  "did you save enough money?"
"I can't believe no one has asked if you have any kids out there"
"We just might have to pull our resources and come have something terrible happen to you"

which IMO is just as rude and horrible.  If you really look at the edit for the whole season and what tptb want the viewers to think about each girl was addressed at their individual hometown.  Mik - her journey with her weight loss and finding herself  Catie - Over the top intense but "soulmate"...she just knew it was "Chris"  Lyndsey - difference in age and her wanting to Chris to know she is ready for that love like her grandparents.   Which of the story lines are different......Lyndsey's - it is the only one that isn't about her personally, it is about the obstacle "they" are both dealing with in their own way, of course tptb will make it seem that it isn't resolved and had to make her family questions everything.  IMO