Rachel Lindsay & Bryan Abasolo - Bachelorette 13 - Discussion - #2

coolangel wrote:

Kolormiblnd wrote:

bleuberry wrote:Yup. No offence to Bryan. Stedman's career spans 30-40+ yrs so idk how we can even compare the two, much less say Bryan 'surpassed' him. JMO.

I cannot speak to what @Chgohighlife meant but IMO, Bryan is 37yrs old, no failed marriage or child from a previous relationship behind him. Those were the baggage that Stedman brought with him to Oprah and if I remember correctly he was about the same age as Bryan when he and Oprah started out. IMHO

I think Bryan and Rachel are fine right now. I am only commenting on this coz it makes it seem that if Bryan did have a failed marriage or a child, he would be somehow less suitable as a partner to Rachel which I strongly disagree with. Everyone has relationship baggage in their own way - marriage or no marriage. And I agree with @bleuberry, I like Bryan but comparing him to Stedman is a bit too much IMO. All JMO

Kolormiblnd wrote:@coolangel, my point was that Bryan and Rachel are both coming to this relationship unencumbered by any prior emotional or financial entanglements/commitments that could put added stress on them (as if the stress of being a reality couple was not enough), IMO. I in no way meant to imply that a previous marriage or child would make Bryan a less than stellar companion for Rachel.  I am actually not comparing them to the Oprah and Stedman of today but to them approx 30yrs ago when they most resembled Rachel and Bryan.

Chgohighlife wrote:

peggy0221 wrote:IMO, having a professional career can still have huge ego too, and they are not mutually exclusive. From Rachel's "I'm the queen and I have my squad" attitude to their post show behavior, all I see is a very unlikable couple capitalizing their 15mins. Good for them to earn some extra like and money, just that this is not that kind of love story/individuals/couple I like and would admire.

Fans who have met Rachel and Bryan in person, frequently post about how sweet, approachable, down to earth and attractive they are IRL. I follow them both everyday and have seen zero evidence of the "huge ego" to which you refer, IMO. They are both confident and IMO have every reason and right to be. The "squad" chose Rachel as its leader and by doing so, extended their 15 minutes so, win-win but, Rachel and Bryan both have maintained the relationships and friendships they've had for years as evidenced by the many pictures they share in Instagram. Rachel and Bryan each appear to be closest and most inclusive with a special cousin who has been a big part of their lives since childhood based on pictures we've seen and HTDs. Those are the true tests of who a person is, IMO. In spite of all the "new friends", do they know who their tried and true friends are and these two clearly do, IMO. 

 Brachel has weathered the negative fallout of whatever has gone right or wrong without "woe is me". They are positive, upbeat and confident enough to support each other as they try many new things and their adventure is very much fun to follow, IMO.  Some things will work, some will not but, I very much respect their willingness to try whatever they decide and conversely I  have no respect for the opposite end of the spectrum, afraid to venture out and take risks, ruled by fear. All JMO.

Chgohighlife wrote:

bleuberry wrote:

Fangirl26 wrote:@Chgohighlife I could be wrong but I thought Stedman was a successful businessman before Oprah?And he has a bachelors and master's degree.

Yup. No offence to Bryan. Stedman's career spans 30-40+ yrs so idk how we can even compare the two, much less say Bryan 'surpassed' him. JMO.

Absolutely. Stedman is an author and businessman who has written 10 business related and self-help books. Perhaps you can name them. I can't. I haven't read any.

Sprite wrote:

Chgohighlife wrote:

peggy0221 wrote:IMO, having a professional career can still have huge ego too, and they are not mutually exclusive. From Rachel's "I'm the queen and I have my squad" attitude to their post show behavior, all I see is a very unlikable couple capitalizing their 15mins. Good for them to earn some extra like and money, just that this is not that kind of love story/individuals/couple I like and would admire.

Fans who have met Rachel and Bryan in person, frequently post about how sweet, approachable, down to earth and attractive they are IRL. I follow them both everyday and have seen zero evidence of the "huge ego" to which you refer, IMO. They are both confident and IMO have every reason and right to be. The "squad" chose Rachel as its leader and by doing so, extended their 15 minutes so, win-win but, Rachel and Bryan both have maintained the relationships and friendships they've had for years as evidenced by the many pictures they share in Instagram. Rachel and Bryan each appear to be closest and most inclusive with a special cousin who has been a big part of their lives since childhood based on pictures we've seen and HTDs. Those are the true tests of who a person is, IMO. In spite of all the "new friends", do they know who their tried and true friends are and these two clearly do, IMO. 

 Brachel has weathered the negative fallout of whatever has gone right or wrong without "woe is me". They are positive, upbeat and confident enough to support each other as they try many new things and their adventure is very much fun to follow, IMO.  Some things will work, some will not but, I very much respect their willingness to try whatever they decide and conversely I  have no respect for the opposite end of the spectrum, afraid to venture out and take risks, ruled by fear. All JMO.

I am not going to debate the merits of this relationship. I frankly don't care. What I am going to say is something to keep in mind. Other couples from this franchise have met fans...even members of this forum...who have gushed how wonderful, nice, friendly, attractive, perfect together, etc these people were when them met up with them. Josh and Andi is the couple that immediately came to mind. We all know how that turned out. I'm not saying that this is the case with Rachel and Bryan, but these couples can be really good at fooling the public....until they implode. I guess we will have to wait to see if they go the distance. It's very early days in this relationship.

Sprite wrote:

Chgohighlife wrote:

peggy0221 wrote:IMO, having a professional career can still have huge ego too, and they are not mutually exclusive. From Rachel's "I'm the queen and I have my squad" attitude to their post show behavior, all I see is a very unlikable couple capitalizing their 15mins. Good for them to earn some extra like and money, just that this is not that kind of love story/individuals/couple I like and would admire.

Fans who have met Rachel and Bryan in person, frequently post about how sweet, approachable, down to earth and attractive they are IRL. I follow them both everyday and have seen zero evidence of the "huge ego" to which you refer, IMO. They are both confident and IMO have every reason and right to be. The "squad" chose Rachel as its leader and by doing so, extended their 15 minutes so, win-win but, Rachel and Bryan both have maintained the relationships and friendships they've had for years as evidenced by the many pictures they share in Instagram. Rachel and Bryan each appear to be closest and most inclusive with a special cousin who has been a big part of their lives since childhood based on pictures we've seen and HTDs. Those are the true tests of who a person is, IMO. In spite of all the "new friends", do they know who their tried and true friends are and these two clearly do, IMO. 

 Brachel has weathered the negative fallout of whatever has gone right or wrong without "woe is me". They are positive, upbeat and confident enough to support each other as they try many new things and their adventure is very much fun to follow, IMO.  Some things will work, some will not but, I very much respect their willingness to try whatever they decide and conversely I  have no respect for the opposite end of the spectrum, afraid to venture out and take risks, ruled by fear. All JMO.

I am not going to debate the merits of this relationship. I frankly don't care. What I am going to say is something to keep in mind. Other couples from this franchise have met fans...even members of this forum...who have gushed how wonderful, nice, friendly, attractive, perfect together, etc these people were when them met up with them. Josh and Andi is the couple that immediately came to mind. We all know how that turned out. I'm not saying that this is the case with Rachel and Bryan, but these couples can be really good at fooling the public....until they implode. I guess we will have to wait to see if they go the distance. It's very early days in this relationship.

Chgohighlife wrote:

peggy0221 wrote:IMO, having a professional career can still have huge ego too, and they are not mutually exclusive. From Rachel's "I'm the queen and I have my squad" attitude to their post show behavior, all I see is a very unlikable couple capitalizing their 15mins. Good for them to earn some extra like and money, just that this is not that kind of love story/individuals/couple I like and would admire.

Fans who have met Rachel and Bryan in person, frequently post about how sweet, approachable, down to earth and attractive they are IRL. I follow them both everyday and have seen zero evidence of the "huge ego" to which you refer, IMO. They are both confident and IMO have every reason and right to be. The "squad" chose Rachel as its leader and by doing so, extended their 15 minutes so, win-win but, Rachel and Bryan both have maintained the relationships and friendships they've had for years as evidenced by the many pictures they share in Instagram. Rachel and Bryan each appear to be closest and most inclusive with a special cousin who has been a big part of their lives since childhood based on pictures we've seen and HTDs. Those are the true tests of who a person is, IMO. In spite of all the "new friends", do they know who their tried and true friends are and these two clearly do, IMO. 

 Brachel has weathered the negative fallout of whatever has gone right or wrong without "woe is me". They are positive, upbeat and confident enough to support each other as they try many new things and their adventure is very much fun to follow, IMO.  Some things will work, some will not but, I very much respect their willingness to try whatever they decide and conversely I  have no respect for the opposite end of the spectrum, afraid to venture out and take risks, ruled by fear. All JMO.

peggy0221 wrote:

Chgohighlife wrote:

peggy0221 wrote:IMO, having a professional career can still have huge ego too, and they are not mutually exclusive. From Rachel's "I'm the queen and I have my squad" attitude to their post show behavior, all I see is a very unlikable couple capitalizing their 15mins. Good for them to earn some extra like and money, just that this is not that kind of love story/individuals/couple I like and would admire.

Fans who have met Rachel and Bryan in person, frequently post about how sweet, approachable, down to earth and attractive they are IRL. I follow them both everyday and have seen zero evidence of the "huge ego" to which you refer, IMO. They are both confident and IMO have every reason and right to be. The "squad" chose Rachel as its leader and by doing so, extended their 15 minutes so, win-win but, Rachel and Bryan both have maintained the relationships and friendships they've had for years as evidenced by the many pictures they share in Instagram. Rachel and Bryan each appear to be closest and most inclusive with a special cousin who has been a big part of their lives since childhood based on pictures we've seen and HTDs. Those are the true tests of who a person is, IMO. In spite of all the "new friends", do they know who their tried and true friends are and these two clearly do, IMO. 

 Brachel has weathered the negative fallout of whatever has gone right or wrong without "woe is me". They are positive, upbeat and confident enough to support each other as they try many new things and their adventure is very much fun to follow, IMO.  Some things will work, some will not but, I very much respect their willingness to try whatever they decide and conversely I  have no respect for the opposite end of the spectrum, afraid to venture out and take risks, ruled by fear. All JMO.

I think everyone feels differently about the same thing, and while something you see as confident, I may see it as egotistic. And I don't like this couple, it's my feeling and I don't think it could be changed as all. I tried to many time to see something about Rachel, but she is just too much for my liking. and I'm never gonna change your feeling too.

Chgohighlife wrote: Well supported convictions and opinions are what strong women are made of and strong does not mean monolithic to me. 

Kolormiblnd wrote:

Chgohighlife wrote: Well supported convictions and opinions are what strong women are made of and strong does not mean monolithic to me. 

IA     
The ability to not take a differing opinion personally is also a trait of strong women. You and I might be cheering for different cast members in January. Please remember this, but bring it on.....  

GuardianAngel wrote:No one is trying to change any one's mind. We all post our opinions. We agree, disagree, somewhere in between. So if someone is responding to a post, it's their opinion sometimes coupled with facts, it's not posted to change anyone's mind.

SCMIIW- did they not say, Bryan specifically, they are going to write their exams so they can practice in California?