Bachelorette 13 - Rachel Lindsay - SM Media - *Sleuthing Spoilers* Discussion - #14

ElonM wrote:The Bachelorette Season-Finale Recap: Win by Default
http://www.vulture.com/2017/08/the-bachelorette-season-13-finale-recap.html
“IT’S SO PRETTY! GIVE IT TO ME! IT’S SO PRETTY!”
Did she ever say yes?

ElonM wrote:The Bachelorette Season-Finale Recap: Win by Default
http://www.vulture.com/2017/08/the-bachelorette-season-13-finale-recap.html
“IT’S SO PRETTY! GIVE IT TO ME! IT’S SO PRETTY!”
Did she ever say yes?

“Then go find someone who will give you a mediocre life.”


He also wants her to tell him that he’s the man she’s going to spend her life with and she’s literally not allowed to answer that. I guarantee you if she told him he was the one, he would have proposed. He didn’t want to take it slow. He wanted his sure thing. Just as much as she wanted hers. He didn’t need “time” or “space to think.” He wanted control. He can’t make the case for why he should stay other than “It’ll be worth it.” When she says, “I can’t do tomorrow if you just want to be my boyfriend,” he just tells her, “I wish you nothing but the very best.”

I MEAN. So, Bryan wins by default? Peter pulls the ultimate ain’t-poop move and tells her, “We’re both going to regret this decision.” She didn’t decide, Peter. YOU DID. You decided not to play by the rules. You wanna stay with her after Rioja? You propose. You don’t appear noble or honorable for torturing her for weeks and dragging your feet about this relationship because “you just can’t bring yourself” to propose. Get over yourself, Peter. You went to a puppy pool party. You were having fun until it came time for Rachel to assert what she wanted.

Haven’t we all been with this dude?

Peter comes out to talk to Host Chris and Rachel in our timeline and he doesn’t have an answer for himself or his behavior and then he accuses her of “attacking him.” Calling you out on your behavior isn’t being attacked and I’m not interested in the whole “angry black woman she attacked me” dog whistle here. Rachel tells him she doesn’t think he’s cut out for this whole process. You can take your azz home and don’t be looking for Bachelor status.He also claims he left her eyelashes on the floor for two days. BITCH. I CANNOT. He said he tried to reach out to her and he wasn’t allowed to. Haven’t we all gotten this text? I had a guy call me after we broke up and tell me he really missed “my lifestyle” and “my friends” and wanted to start “hanging out,” but not be my boyfriend.

sosleepy wrote:I have a new appreciation for JoJo. And Des, to. This show has a bad habit of picking female leads that just get so bitter and hung up on their F2 and cannot find an ounce of grace or sympathy in them. Despite the fact that they are usually preceded by male leads that are kind and gracious towards their own opportunity. I appreciate JoJo for being a kind person. What a concept. Rachel is following in that Andi Andi and Kaitlyn archetype. Yuck. Peter, Peter, Peter... the more she shades, the less I care for her, and the less I believe in her and Bryan.

Alanna wrote:

sosleepy wrote:I have a new appreciation for JoJo. And Des, to. This show has a bad habit of picking female leads that just get so bitter and hung up on their F2 and cannot find an ounce of grace or sympathy in them. Despite the fact that they are usually preceded by male leads that are kind and gracious towards their own opportunity. I appreciate JoJo for being a kind person. What a concept. Rachel is following in that Andi Andi and Kaitlyn archetype. Yuck. Peter, Peter, Peter... the more she shades, the less I care for her, and the less I believe in her and Bryan.

To defend rachel a bit- I don't think Jo cared at all about Robby or what he was doing or who he even was, she literally needed a warm body to take to f2 because she was all in on someone else very early. Rachel and Peter actually had something there imo so of course there are more feelings and drama there imo. However, Bryan is totally the type she should be with imo and hopefully she knows that now and they make this thing work.

Alanna wrote:

sosleepy wrote:I have a new appreciation for JoJo. And Des, to. This show has a bad habit of picking female leads that just get so bitter and hung up on their F2 and cannot find an ounce of grace or sympathy in them. Despite the fact that they are usually preceded by male leads that are kind and gracious towards their own opportunity. I appreciate JoJo for being a kind person. What a concept. Rachel is following in that Andi Andi and Kaitlyn archetype. Yuck. Peter, Peter, Peter... the more she shades, the less I care for her, and the less I believe in her and Bryan.

To defend rachel a bit- I don't think Jo cared at all about Robby or what he was doing or who he even was, she literally needed a warm body to take to f2 because she was all in on someone else very early. Rachel and Peter actually had something there imo so of course there are more feelings and drama there imo. However, Bryan is totally the type she should be with imo and hopefully she knows that now and they make this thing work.

Murakamee wrote:Last night was so ugly and I got so upset.

Before going to bed, I made the mistake of scrolling through the comments posted to Rachel's most recent Instagram photo and came across something I wrote word for word in the FRC thread on this forum. I couldn't believe it and thought maybe I was seeing things or the wine had gone to my head. I took a screenshot with my phone (see below). I would have laughed it off that someone would be so ridiculous to copy my comment and use it as their own - if the second half of the comment wasn't abrasive and abusive. The second half of the comment was written totally different than the first half. It makes me feel icky that someone would copy what I wrote and use it to troll someone's SM to be abusive. I have never had that happen before (that I know of). I didn't know people plagiarized forum posts! Has this ever happened to anyone from here before? Strange.

Please pardon the language, I tried to black out the vulgarity.



Some people are just so ugly! Some of the things they were leaving on Rachel's SM reached another level of vile, and all over a reality television show. Peter's not my favorite person (which is obvious from my posts here), but I would never troll his or anyone's account SM accounts to be abusive.

sosleepy wrote:

Alanna wrote:

sosleepy wrote:I have a new appreciation for JoJo. And Des, to. This show has a bad habit of picking female leads that just get so bitter and hung up on their F2 and cannot find an ounce of grace or sympathy in them. Despite the fact that they are usually preceded by male leads that are kind and gracious towards their own opportunity. I appreciate JoJo for being a kind person. What a concept. Rachel is following in that Andi Andi and Kaitlyn archetype. Yuck. Peter, Peter, Peter... the more she shades, the less I care for her, and the less I believe in her and Bryan.

To defend rachel a bit- I don't think Jo cared at all about Robby or what he was doing or who he even was, she literally needed a warm body to take to f2 because she was all in on someone else very early. Rachel and Peter actually had something there imo so of course there are more feelings and drama there imo. However, Bryan is totally the type she should be with imo and hopefully she knows that now and they make this thing work.

Alright. Fair. But JoJo had something real with Ben, and she still managed to be class in that situation. Rachel, arguably, had something with Nick... and she shaded to the extreme there too, even though Nick took the high road with her. I think that's just who Rachel is... a mean girl. And JoJo is not.  There is just a fundamental difference in personalities here. My guess is JoJo (or Des) or any kind human in this situation would just let it go. But Big Rach just can't cause she has to be on top. Omg. I'm waxing poetic about Jo! I better sit down. I'm telling you, new appreciation for her and how she handled things.