Bachelorette 13 - Rachel Lindsay - SM Media - *Sleuthing Spoilers* Discussion - #14

Tiggerlgh wrote:

sdmom wrote:I want to give people benefits of doubt.
So I'd like to know how much of their sm is encouraged by tptb?
It's not just Peter. Rachel's posts of her and Copper from 1-1 with Peter, her lying on the grass on July 4 all give Pachel fans hope, imo.

I can maybe agree with the Copper pics.  But the grass I think had nothing to do with Peter but was a background in the house that wouldn't be obvious she was the same place as Bryan we had already seen the beepdroom, pool and living room and as open as that house was there were few places left IMO.  

Peter posted a pic of him inside a kiddie pool in a grass area first, then Rachel posted her grass pic on the same day. If I were a Pachel fan, I could have thought they were on the same place. I remember the debate if it's chalk or reflection around his heels/her fingers.

It doesn't matter now, really, cause I have no doubt Bryan is Jetome is her fiancé. It's all moot imo. I am just wondering how involved Tptb is in contestants sm.

sdmom wrote:

Tiggerlgh wrote:

sdmom wrote:I want to give people benefits of doubt.
So I'd like to know how much of their sm is encouraged by tptb?
It's not just Peter. Rachel's posts of her and Copper from 1-1 with Peter, her lying on the grass on July 4 all give Pachel fans hope, imo.

I can maybe agree with the Copper pics.  But the grass I think had nothing to do with Peter but was a background in the house that wouldn't be obvious she was the same place as Bryan we had already seen the beepdroom, pool and living room and as open as that house was there were few places left IMO.  

Peter posted a pic of him inside a kiddie pool in a grass area first, then Rachel posted her grass pic on the same day. If I were a Pachel fan, I could have thought they were on the same place. I remember the debate if it's chalk or reflection around his heels/her fingers.

It doesn't matter now, really, cause I have no doubt Bryan is Jetome is her fiancé. It's all moot imo. I am just wondering how involved Tptb is in contestants sm.

I remember the debate as well. I just never thought they were ever in the same spot and never thought that was what was intended all my opinion.

Tiggerlgh wrote:

sdmom wrote:

Tiggerlgh wrote:

I can maybe agree with the Copper pics.  But the grass I think had nothing to do with Peter but was a background in the house that wouldn't be obvious she was the same place as Bryan we had already seen the beepdroom, pool and living room and as open as that house was there were few places left IMO.  

Peter posted a pic of him inside a kiddie pool in a grass area first, then Rachel posted her grass pic on the same day. If I were a Pachel fan, I could have thought they were on the same place. I remember the debate if it's chalk or reflection around his heels/her fingers.

It doesn't matter now, really, cause I have no doubt Bryan is Jetome is her fiancé. It's all moot imo. I am just wondering how involved Tptb is in contestants sm.

I remember the debate as well. I just never thought they were ever in the same spot and never thought that was what was intended all my opinion.

No big deal. because in the past, I was the big f2 support, I can understand from the other side's point of few. But I also think fans will always see/hear what they want to believe.
Here's to a (hopefully) romantic finale

About Bryan being on "The Player", I read somewhere that he was sent home close to the beginning because he had no game.

composer53 wrote:About Bryan being on "The Player", I read somewhere that he was sent home close to the beginning because he had no game.

I don't know how Bryan being on reality show 14 yrs ago qualifies as "acting skills" .

As for the show itself, he went home towards the end. There are recaps of the show online and he struggles through the show.
In the end he was sent how because the girl didn't think he had any game.

Yeah.. Bryan being on 'The Player' doesn't count as 'acting skills' for me either considering as @makeover rightly put it, it just seems like a low budget version of the Bachelor franchise.

JMO

He listed it on his bio as a special talent.
Unless he was lying, which I doubt. imo

All the guys are team Eric and they like Bryan and notice how none of them said she should pick Peter JMO

I never thought of Bryan as a player but someone who comes across as too OTT and fairly aggressive (kissing) from day one which could have turned off someone else. He seems to have a habit of going full force in the beginning or at least he talked about having done this before. That may explain why some find him fake or "too good to be real/true" as Rachel said (can't remember which). Sometimes that ends as quickly as it begins so the test begins soon. All JMO of course.

I would consider being on the player about as much as acting as being on the bachelorette. Go figure.

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sdmom wrote:

Tiggerlgh wrote:

sdmom wrote:

Peter posted a pic of him inside a kiddie pool in a grass area first, then Rachel posted her grass pic on the same day. If I were a Pachel fan, I could have thought they were on the same place. I remember the debate if it's chalk or reflection around his heels/her fingers.

It doesn't matter now, really, cause I have no doubt Bryan is Jetome is her fiancé. It's all moot imo. I am just wondering how involved Tptb is in contestants sm.

I remember the debate as well. I just never thought they were ever in the same spot and never thought that was what was intended all my opinion.

No big deal. because in the past, I was the big f2 support, I can understand from the other side's point of few. But I also think fans will always see/hear what they want to believe.
Here's to a (hopefully) romantic finale

 It never matters after and it is most of the time dismissed when proved wrong. But IMO this is something people should remember for future reference and sleuthing because it proves that some contestants may not look what they appear and they may also play with SM to fool us, either intentional or not intentional. But most people forget easily when it is not convenient IMO

IMO, Peter from the very start after his return, his focus was his job, his promotions, his old selfies, his JToor partnership, his fitness expansion.... he just could not let his IG alone. #fact

Was it by pride? maybe. Was it malicious? I do not think or hope so. Was it using the franchise? Heck yes! Was it to intentionally put some shade on Bryan? Yes!!!... per jealousy or because he was upset, probably both (kid pool when same day rachel posted this grass pic... or when bryan posted this shirtless on the bed and he did the same with Daisy.... wayyyyyyy too much of coincidence for not be intentional here imo). His many "like" when a comment was to say negative things about Bryan proves it. It also showed a petyness mean side of him that is/was not pretty and attractive at all.

am I interested to see him a full season? nope. either he will pull a Brad 1:0 or proved he faked his feelings if he kisses multiple girls without the broom he looked to have all season with rachel. so seing him kissing with enthousiasm other girl would be way to fake and would not get the love story i wish to see andbe entertained by this franchise. no illusion of love = lost of my time and disinterest


my 2 cennes and my opinion