Bachelorette 13 - Rachel Lindsay - SM Media - *Sleuthing Spoilers* Discussion - #13

coolangel wrote:

FashionLover wrote:
Ok. Lets play a little game and put ourselves in peters shoes (I know, I know.. some of y'all think he's the devil incarnate but play along for a minute.)
1. Peter reads rachel well and see's she's likely to pick Bryan
2. Peter states clearly where he stands about the ending on this. Not proposing
3. Peter is still kept around even though he is clear that he's not proposing. Maybe it's rachel not ready to send him home or maybe it's TPTB exerting power moves
4. Peter likely keeps sensing rachel is STILL on bryan as her ending.

what is peter supposed to do? Act a fool and fall in love with someone who's just gonna dump him at he end? or play along until TPTB/rachel are ready to let him go?

5. Peter realizes he is not into Rachel and/or cannot commit to the timeline of the show and walks away sparing everyone the heartbreak. But wait! How will that work in terms of the storyline for next season if he wants to be the Bachelor?    Solution: Stick around and keep dragging your feet and open up and validate the lead's feelings when she has given up on you and is likely to eliminate you. Win-win.

All JMO

FashionLover wrote:

coolangel wrote:5. Peter realizes he is not into Rachel and/or cannot commit to the timeline of the show and walks away sparing everyone the heartbreak. But wait! How will that work in terms of the storyline for next season if he wants to be the Bachelor?    Solution: Stick around and keep dragging your feet and open up and validate the lead's feelings when she has given up on you and is likely to eliminate you. Win-win.

All JMO

Exactly! some people may have an issue with this but I don't. who in their right mind would walk out of a situation as win-lose, them being the looser, when you have the opportunity to walk away as win-win?

Disclaimer: I actually think that peter was genuine with rachel and would have loved to pursue something outside the show. My posts are to give perspective to some of the scenarios raised in this forum

FashionLover wrote:

Alanna wrote:I get that she's mad and had her aha moments or what have you but he's the "loser" here so she's fighting an un-win-able battle imo. The majority of audience aren't going to like the woman with the 100k ring dragging the guy she dumped.

It's her choice to do whatever she wants, I will love, love, LOVE it, don't get me wrong but it's the worse choice for her imo and a big mistake, if this is the route she's going to go.

I agree. They should just keep it classy at ATFR. She got the ring, the fiancé and fairy tale. so if she tries to come at peter, it's gonna make zero sense to audience IMO

coolangel wrote:IMO Rachel has started calling out Peter in her blogs. Was she reading here last night?  @stuckinsc, the bolded is pretty much what you said last night IMO. I am glad Rachel sees it too and made the right decision IMO.  

Even after an almost perfect day I still had doubts if he would be ready to start his own family in a matter of weeks. That was the struggle, the push and pull in my relationship with Peter, he was giving me just enough to stay around without taking a stance on his feelings. Leaving Dallas, I knew I needed a definitive outlook on what Peter wanted for himself and what he wanted with me.

Source: http://people.com/tv/bachelorette-rachel-lindsay-exclusive-blog-fantasy-suites-final-3/

All JMO

stuckinsc wrote:@FashionLover, I respect your opinion. I just don't share it.  This show has always been rougher on its female leads than its male leads. So yes, as a women, I hate watching the female lead get played. I disliked Andi intensely, and I even started hoping she would pick Nick, because I thought she had a better chance at happiness with him.

I liked Peter week one and two.  He was sweet at the M&G. I enjoyed the throwing the chocolates in the fire line.  I loved their first 1:1. I got that for him, it might be slower, that is okay.  But I didn't buy that any man who has made out with a woman and is attracted to her, doesn't think about sex with her.  And to me, that wasn't respectful, it was truthful. I started to think that Peter just wasn't into Rachel.  That is okay, because, I don't expect every guy to fall for every bachelorette.  Chemistry is a weird thing and if you don't have it, this show will not work for you, honestly, it just looks messy then, think Jesse and DeAnna.  Yuck.

So I waited to see if maybe I saw Peter start to fall for her, and it just never happened.  His body language to me was just not into her.  And, no I don't need all over her like Bryan, but you face her when you talk to her, you do the small touches, a hand hold, something like that.  Especially when she keeps asking you for more physical affection.  Then gossipy Peter turned me off.  Maybe because I do like Bryan, but it seemed like extremely handsome and lucky Peter was mad because for the first time, he wasn't an automatic number one with a woman.  Follow that with a long SM post to be nice to him and others on the cast, well Peter, practice what you preach. Then the Miami comment just pissed me off. I am from south Florida and that statement to me was hateful.  That is my opinion.  The falling in love said again without facing her or any type of reinforcement just seemed like more game playing to me.  The final straw, the pat on the shoulder after your conversation causes her to cry.  If you care for this person, don't you try to comfort them at all? I get being reserved, but that was cold.

So this is why I don't like Peter and it is all JMO.  If I am wrong and Peter is her F1, I will hope the best for them.  If he is the bachelor, I will skip it, but just like with Vanessa and Nick, I will try to get to know his F1 on here afterwards and wish them the best.  

FashionLover wrote:@HEA you made my morning and you've inadvertently made my evening as well. I don't know if we're allowed to have favorites but you're my favorite

you're making it sound like peter commissioned this kids for the purpose of making him look good. that imagery alone is comedic gold.

stuckinsc wrote:@FashionLover, I respect your opinion. I just don't share it.  This show has always been rougher on its female leads than its male leads. So yes, as a women, I hate watching the female lead get played. I disliked Andi intensely, and I even started hoping she would pick Nick, because I thought she had a better chance at happiness with him.

I liked Peter week one and two.  He was sweet at the M&G. I enjoyed the throwing the chocolates in the fire line.  I loved their first 1:1. I got that for him, it might be slower, that is okay.  But I didn't buy that any man who has made out with a woman and is attracted to her, doesn't think about sex with her.  And to me, that wasn't respectful, it was truthful. I started to think that Peter just wasn't into Rachel.  That is okay, because, I don't expect every guy to fall for every bachelorette.  Chemistry is a weird thing and if you don't have it, this show will not work for you, honestly, it just looks messy then, think Jesse and DeAnna.  Yuck.

So I waited to see if maybe I saw Peter start to fall for her, and it just never happened.  His body language to me was just not into her.  And, no I don't need all over her like Bryan, but you face her when you talk to her, you do the small touches, a hand hold, something like that.  Especially when she keeps asking you for more physical affection.  Then gossipy Peter turned me off.  Maybe because I do like Bryan, but it seemed like extremely handsome and lucky Peter was mad because for the first time, he wasn't an automatic number one with a woman.  Follow that with a long SM post to be nice to him and others on the cast, well Peter, practice what you preach. Then the Miami comment just pissed me off. I am from south Florida and that statement to me was hateful.  That is my opinion.  The falling in love said again without facing her or any type of reinforcement just seemed like more game playing to me.  The final straw, the pat on the shoulder after your conversation causes her to cry.  If you care for this person, don't you try to comfort them at all? I get being reserved, but that was cold.

So this is why I don't like Peter and it is all JMO.  If I am wrong and Peter is her F1, I will hope the best for them.  If he is the bachelor, I will skip it, but just like with Vanessa and Nick, I will try to get to know his F1 on here afterwards and wish them the best.  

pavalygurl wrote:

FashionLover wrote:

Alanna wrote:I get that she's mad and had her aha moments or what have you but he's the "loser" here so she's fighting an un-win-able battle imo. The majority of audience aren't going to like the woman with the 100k ring dragging the guy she dumped.

It's her choice to do whatever she wants, I will love, love, LOVE it, don't get me wrong but it's the worse choice for her imo and a big mistake, if this is the route she's going to go.

I agree. They should just keep it classy at ATFR. She got the ring, the fiancé and fairy tale. so if she tries to come at peter, it's gonna make zero sense to audience IMO

I agree.   Classy is the way to go.  Anything less makes her look a poor "winner".  If Bryan has been her guy all along,  she now is happy and can go forward planning her life with her love.  JMO.