Bachelorette 13 - Rachel Lindsay - ScreenCaps - *Sleuthing Spoilers* - Discussion #2

I actually think that some of those caps where she is crying with the greenery behind her, they are fooling us, and she could be talking to Chris Harrison, about one of the guys, vs talking to one of the guys. JMO.


"....Adds Harrison, 46: “Rachel and I went through this journey together. You can’t be this disengaged robot. When you’re going through it, I’m sitting across from this woman who’s bawling and putting her heart out, how do you not cry? I think being a dad myself, I just picture my daughter going through this someday. I just try and be the right person for them and support them. It’s a weird thing as a host. You’re not a typical host. I wear a lot of hats.”


http://people.com/tv/bachelorette-host-chris-harrison-says-show-makes-him-cry-like-baby/

The rings are definitely different - you can see the one while she's holding the umbrella. She must really like that sweater!

SFoster wrote:@HEA Here it is:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GB0wzPxuSRs

about 1:29

Two different places, sounds like a v/o to me. I'm not sure if that's what you wanted, because now I forget. I'm sure this was sleuthed many times. I'm sorry I forget by whom.





Not expecting to feel this way, paraphrasing.



While I was looking for those, I came across this. I just about spit up my dinner. The look she's giving Peter while he rambles about what marriage means to him. The second cap her eyes lower and they seriously look like that before she brings them up again. It's so quick, it took me several times to grab it.

SFoster wrote:@HEA, thanks!  You got it!  Now, doesn't it look like the ring on her right hand is different?  In the one with the false eyelashes, she has on a simple, plain gold band. The other one looks a little wider and more has a design?  Am I seeing things?

i tried to have a better SC but on one she has a small ring and the other the movement and light made it bigger

I honestly think that the talk was done the same night but with an interruption

I think they had this talk with Peter saying: i do not want to give up on you and her saying we are in 2 different place

then she left.....

and return (umbrella) to just cut the cord and this is when he fell apart

adf23 wrote:I actually think that some of those caps where she is crying with the greenery behind her, they are fooling us, and she could be talking to Chris Harrison, about one of the guys, vs talking to one of the guys.  JMO.


"....Adds Harrison, 46: “Rachel and I went through this journey together. You can’t be this disengaged robot. When you’re going through it, I’m sitting across from this woman who’s bawling and putting her heart out, how do you not cry? I think being a dad myself, I just picture my daughter going through this someday. I just try and be the right person for them and support them. It’s a weird thing as a host. You’re not a typical host. I wear a lot of hats.”


http://people.com/tv/bachelorette-host-chris-harrison-says-show-makes-him-cry-like-baby/

THIS THIS ! I was saying earlier that I think she goes to see Peter the night of Thinking Day (I call the day before the F3 RC) and she usually talks to CH on that day, he gives advice, etc. So maybe she was wearing the gray sweater when she talked to CH during the day. Then she took off her makeup that night, and decided to talk to Peter again, one last time before the RC the next day.

SFoster wrote:@HEA, thanks!  You got it!  Now, doesn't it look like the ring on her right hand is different?  In the one with the false eyelashes, she has on a simple, plain gold band. The other one looks a little wider and more has a design?  Am I seeing things?

They aren't the same IA ...the one with the leaves in the background is a simple band and the one with the umbrella etc has some sort of design.

In one of the previews we hear Bryan say" after last night she might never believe in love again"(paraphrasing) is it possible that he said this after her and Peter's FSD or after her and Peter's LCD or break up. She may have gone to talk to him about what happened with Peter or how they broke up eg. Her saying that she is told how amazing she is and guys still not wanting to commit. If that's the case it would be a logical thing for him to say.

@SFoster she is speaking with the exact same soft voice she uses when she is with peter on the sofa and cry right before TBC...

i do not think it is CH. and I think the CH talk, they wear some different clothes imo

but maybe. you have a point here

HEA wrote:

SFoster wrote:@HEA, thanks!  You got it!  Now, doesn't it look like the ring on her right hand is different?  In the one with the false eyelashes, she has on a simple, plain gold band. The other one looks a little wider and more has a design?  Am I seeing things?

i tried to have a better SC but on one she has a small ring and the other the movement and light made it bigger

I honestly think that the talk was done the same night but with an interruption

I think they had this talk with Peter saying: i do not want to give up on you and her saying we are in 2 different place

then she left.....

and return (umbrella) to just cut the cord and this is when he fell apart

Imo The "i'm not going to give up on you " scenario takes place in the church. He has the same green shirt on compared to when they are first seen walking into the church. also the background looks like wooden furniture.

coolangel wrote:

SFoster wrote:A lot of folks are predicting Peter comes back to propose (F1).  One thing I do know, we'll find out in 5 days!!

With all due respect, I would like to be excluded from this narrative. Individuals can speak for themselves where they stand.

I am sticking to what I believed in based on SC - Rachel lets Peter go the night before the FRC, Bryan arrives at noon and is the only one left, he proposes, Rachel accepts and they live happily ever after.

All JMO

Ditto from me.

Nillay wrote:

SFoster wrote:@HEA, thanks!  You got it!  Now, doesn't it look like the ring on her right hand is different?  In the one with the false eyelashes, she has on a simple, plain gold band. The other one looks a little wider and more has a design?  Am I seeing things?

They aren't the same IA ...the one with the leaves in the background is a simple band and the one with the umbrella etc has some sort of design.

In one of the previews we hear Bryan say" after last night she might never believe in love again"(paraphrasing) is  it possible that he said this after her and Peter's FSD or after her and Peter's LCD or break up. She may have  gone to talk to him about what happened with Peter or how they broke up eg. Her saying that she is told how amazing she is and guys still not wanting to commit. If that's the case it would be a logical thing for him to say.

The quote from Bryan was spliced in from the DeMario girlfriend episode.

Nillay wrote:

HEA wrote:

SFoster wrote:@HEA, thanks!  You got it!  Now, doesn't it look like the ring on her right hand is different?  In the one with the false eyelashes, she has on a simple, plain gold band. The other one looks a little wider and more has a design?  Am I seeing things?

i tried to have a better SC but on one she has a small ring and the other the movement and light made it bigger

I honestly think that the talk was done the same night but with an interruption

I think they had this talk with Peter saying: i do not want to give up on you and her saying we are in 2 different place

then she left.....

and return (umbrella) to just cut the cord and this is when he fell apart

Imo The "i'm not going to give up on you " scenario takes place in the church. He has the same green shirt on compared to when they are first seen walking into the church. also the background looks like wooden furniture.

Peter is wearing two sweaters that are VERY similar which adds to the confusion. In the church scene his crewneck sweater is green. In the "I'm not giving up on you" scene it is a gray crewneck IMO. When he's crying on the floor with a sweater in his hand, it looks like the gray one to me. Peter you need to vary your sweaters!

SFoster wrote:

adf23 wrote:I actually think that some of those caps where she is crying with the greenery behind her, they are fooling us, and she could be talking to Chris Harrison, about one of the guys, vs talking to one of the guys.  JMO.


"....Adds Harrison, 46: “Rachel and I went through this journey together. You can’t be this disengaged robot. When you’re going through it, I’m sitting across from this woman who’s bawling and putting her heart out, how do you not cry? I think being a dad myself, I just picture my daughter going through this someday. I just try and be the right person for them and support them. It’s a weird thing as a host. You’re not a typical host. I wear a lot of hats.”


http://people.com/tv/bachelorette-host-chris-harrison-says-show-makes-him-cry-like-baby/

THIS THIS !  I was saying earlier that I think she goes to see Peter the night of Thinking Day (I call the day before the F3 RC) and she usually talks to CH on that day, he gives advice, etc. So maybe she was wearing the gray sweater when she talked to CH during the day. Then she took off her makeup that night, and decided to talk to Peter again, one last time before the RC the next day.

You have a point!!! But the thing about the theory that she went to talk to Peter the day before the F3 RC is that...They have a heart to heart about something...which leads to him sobbing on the floor??  Whatever they talked about made Rachel pick him over Eric so why would he be sobbing on the floor? And why would she be crying as well? They don't look like happy tears to me.  With the " we're in two different places" she could in fact be referring to Eric.

That scene where she said "i didn't think a breakup would have this effect on me" she is wearing the exact same grey sweater she wore during the supposed talk with CH and the heart to heart with Peter. Saying that does she mean her break up with Eric. I would imagine her saying a breakup was hard after she broke up and not the night before.....so things don't add up