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Post by GuardianAngel Fri Aug 25, 2017 11:34 am

It was so fun while it lasted. Thanks to all the fans who brought vids SM and articles over. They truly looked very happy together in the beginning. You could tell by the smiles. Unfortunately it wasn't meant to be for either of them.

I wish them both well.

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Post by mprssdbyu Fri Aug 25, 2017 11:38 am

Oh NO!!! Vanessa is going home where her heart remains, I guess. If I know Vanessa, we will get the details at some point. I'm so sad but I can't hope for two people to remain together who aren't happy.


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Post by Stacia620 Fri Aug 25, 2017 11:42 am

I hate to say it, but it's almost like a relief. I could tell something was not right for a long time jmo. I hope they both find real happiness.
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Post by chrissy1295 Fri Aug 25, 2017 11:52 am

Well this is heartbreaking... I really wanted them to prove the many doubters wrong. :tissuebox

I was all ready to eat, had a nice meal laid out and everything... then I see this and I've lost my entire appetite

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Post by notarose Fri Aug 25, 2017 11:54 am

Diana wrote:The best part of Nissa was the friendships on here, I love you guys. Biggest hugs.
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Post by sdmom Fri Aug 25, 2017 11:56 am

I was trying to remain optimistic even when they haven't posted together for a while, and V always looks so happy. I am not as sad as I thought I'd be, but kind of numb really. I guess I was prepared for the worst because when was the last time Nick posted him and Vanessa?
Oh well, the thing I enjoy the most is team Nessa. We had so much fun, and so many good posts. Group hug group hug console


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Post by Billysmom Fri Aug 25, 2017 12:03 pm

Very sad to hear this.... sad I really hope it wasn't the case that they've had to act together because of tptb...... That would be so draining. Hope Vanessa can go back to Galileo. As for nick.... I think he needs to find himself, jmo. I think he's a good guy underneath though. Figures...first time in years I back the right horse, laugh out loud. Guess my picker is broken as well. I have no doubt these two will remain classy and respectful towards each other going forward.
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Post by Imp Fri Aug 25, 2017 12:12 pm

WHAT. My heart dropped, I really didn't see this coming at all! I thought they were a normal mature and private couple.. I feel so disappointed (at Nick mostly, hmm), I can't believe they gave up so quick - even if they were having problems?! Wow.. I'm gutted!

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Post by pikake Fri Aug 25, 2017 12:47 pm

Oh no! This news is so sad - I really felt they would have one of the more positive outcomes from this franchise. In the beginning I was not a Nick fan, like so many of you, but I grew to like him during his time as The Bachelor. I especially loved Nick and Vanessa together, and have to say I am saddened and quite surprised by this news today

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Post by Spoil Me Again Fri Aug 25, 2017 12:56 pm

Well this just sucks.

Sad for them. Hoping they both find what they are looking for.
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Post by lipsis Fri Aug 25, 2017 1:00 pm

I'm sorry guys. These things are always hard. Hang in there.


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Post by notarose Fri Aug 25, 2017 1:32 pm

Billysmom wrote:Very sad to hear this.... sad    I really hope it wasn't the case that they've had to act together because of tptb...... That would be so draining. Hope Vanessa can go back to Galileo. As for nick.... I think he needs to find himself, jmo.  I think he's a good guy underneath though. Figures...first time in years I back the right horse, laugh out loud. Guess my picker is broken as well. I have no doubt these two will remain classy and respectful towards each other going forward.
I think your picker was working fine giggling  and that they had traits each was looking for however time is a valuable thing and over time differences had to be navigated. Nick is extremely private. A great example is that little is known about his work and his LA nonfranchise social circle. By contrast, Vanessa is very extroverted and likes to spotlight her work, post vid of her friends, and enjoys public opportunities that come with being on the show like being a presenter at JFL. It's quiet life vs a more public one. Nick has also always disliked shilling and done very little over 3 years but V is interested both for her foundation and personal gain. IMO the couple's ads were something Nick did with V as a compromise. Even the lead up to the breakup announcement points to a difference. Nick lets his silence settle. V posted with her engagement ring. A breakup is a difficult thing so there is never a "right" way.
I do think Nick knows who he is and that Vanessa, at 30, has new opportunities that she will consider and explore and find her niche in Bach world as once you appear on the show you are known as a consequence.  The announcement comes after the Montreal school year has begun instead of before so she may not want to return to Montreal just yet or may want to explore other opportunities in Canada or even stay on in LA for a bit. I think if she had wanted to teach immediately the announcement would have been planned when Nick posted his last IG pic.
No way of knowing but I think Vanessa has been much more open to the Bach family and Nick just wanted to finally leave that behind, to just maintain some of his friendships, comment on BIP (his fav franchise show) but mostly just have what his WI friends have - work and ordinary family life. Things like a televised ultrasound IMO are just not in keeping with Nick's vision of the future whereas Vanessa is a sharer of details, charismatic, and unfiltered. V being open to a public celebration of her birthday is great but very unlike something Nick would want for himself.
#itsthelittlethings that people come to know about each other that determine the course of the future. I've been following Kyle's vacation with his girlfriend, a simple roadtrip from LA to PEI and home again. I think that is the kind of journey, a metaphor, that Nick had hoped would his next chapter.


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