Dr. Bryan Abasolo - Bachelorette 13 - Discussion - #4

lleyki wrote:Here's a thought regarding all the disappointment in Rachel's choice if she picked Bryan, hoping she would have been different, etc. If everything that some have observed of Rachel makes them think she's a smart and savvy woman with her head on straight and we all can agree that the producers edit the show and we see a tiny fraction of the lead's time with contestants, is it not fair to maybe trust that Rachel is that woman you believed her to be and that she chose Bryan because he is a good person who she truly loved (as in Bachelor time frame love but still)? Just a thought.

Of course the other side of that is also that maybe viewers elevated and put Rachel on a ridiculous pedestal that never was who she really is and didn't see her for the woman she really is, including the kind of guys she would be attracted to and fall for. It's like when I still see so many comments about Bryan's aggressive kissing and how he's too aggressive with Rachel and "manhandles" her and I'm baffled because I cannot understand how it's not obvious at this point that Rachel responds to and enjoys that.

She is just as passionately and sexually aggressive as he is. Yet I think some continue to project their desires and what they're attracted to and what they would want onto Rachel and then when the spoilers suggest she may  not have lived up to that, she's a disappointment.

makeover wrote:I watched Jasmine's season and I see no similarities between Jasmine/ Kevin and Rachel/ Bryan besides the fact that both couples are HOT for each for (I feel bad for whoever is F1, if Bryan is not F1, the way Rachel is going at it with Bryan; good luck explaining that babe).

For one, Jasmine and Kevin (who I like) are alphas who clashes. Even within the short timeframe of the show, they had an argument and I saw a childish part of both Jasmine and Kevin. Andi and Josh had a tiff during the show too. So far, Rachel and Bryan haven't shown that they have clashing personalities. In fact that's often the criticism I saw thrown at them, that they are too easy going with each other.  

Secondly, Jasmine was not happy after filming. She also had no poker face like Rachel and showed it all over her face. Rachel has been beaming since filming ended.

I can buy that Bryan may be like Whitney (of Chris and Whitney), just ready to settle down with the lead and in the bubble. But I won't say yet that B and R are like W and C, until I see them interact post show. Cos it's obvious to me even in the post show interviews right after that Chris had no more interest in Whitney.

composer53 wrote:On a different note, I've been watching their interactions from the first.  I've noticed that it looks like Bryan is drinking water when everyone else is drinking wine or other liquor.  Anyone else notice this?

lleyki wrote:Here's a thought regarding all the disappointment in Rachel's choice if she picked Bryan, hoping she would have been different, etc. If everything that some have observed of Rachel makes them think she's a smart and savvy woman with her head on straight and we all can agree that the producers edit the show and we see a tiny fraction of the lead's time with contestants, is it not fair to maybe trust that Rachel is that woman you believed her to be and that she chose Bryan because he is a good person who she truly loved (as in Bachelor time frame love but still)? Just a thought.

Of course the other side of that is also that maybe viewers elevated and put Rachel on a ridiculous pedestal that never was who she really is and didn't see her for the woman she really is, including the kind of guys she would be attracted to and fall for. It's like when I still see so many comments about Bryan's aggressive kissing and how he's too aggressive with Rachel and "manhandles" her and I'm baffled because I cannot understand how it's not obvious at this point that Rachel responds to and enjoys that.

She is just as passionately and sexually aggressive as he is. Yet I think some continue to project their desires and what they're attracted to and what they would want onto Rachel and then when the spoilers suggest she may  not have lived up to that, she's a disappointment.

nd4reality wrote:@Alanna
My thinking is that we are assuming that Bryan was merely nominated to go on the show by his friend without liking her. He has been a fan of the show so it is entirely possible that he watched last season and liked Rachel and even mentioned it to his friend. Who then promptly nominated him. At this stage we don't have enough information to assume stuff. Jmo.

I'm curious to hear the full story of how he came to be on the show before deciding that he would chase anyone.

And yes he did full on kiss Rachel on night one, but she was already all gaga over him immediately out the limo. Plus he could have earned himself an actual slap across the face with that move. Instead she went on to put her tongue down his throat.


IMO there are many arguments about smooth and too fast but Rachel did have 30 other options that night and still has 3 other guys that she chose out of the initial 31.