Peter Kraus - Bachelorette 13 - **Sleuthing Spoilers** - #8

Kashathediva wrote:

mindless wrote:

Kashathediva wrote:I get what you are saying. And I guess that is ok.
Now let's play this game and see how this sounds and see if it's equally ok.
Warning Snark intended:

Somehow I don't think many in Wisconsin would enjoy that. It's one thing to snark a cast, it's another to paint an entire population. JMO

If that is your comeback then I don't think you really got what I was saying. Did Peter say swagger was bad in general? It's mostly used as a compliment these days. Did he say everyone in Miami has fake body parts? No, he did not. He was wondering if Bryan's swagger and confidence is real or as fake as implants which there are plenty of in Miami, much like LA or any other plastic surgery hub. Like I said, stupid and not cool, but it's not comparable to your snarky comparison at all IMHO.

I don't personally attach positives to the word "swagger". I attach cockiness. So that word would not be a compliment.  IMO
Attaching any geographical area to plastic surgery is unnecessary IMO.  This is how grievances are initiated. People do not need to be singled out whether it's meant to be or not. Why go there? It's not needed. Why subset anyone?
The degree of snarkiness IMO is inconsequential.
One is in your face, which I will admit I am. I tell it like it is right there and then.  
The other  is sneaky and back handed, which I will admit I never try to be.  
I would rather someone tell me and let me know what I was getting, than be nice to my face and then blast me behind my back or kill me with kindness only to backstab me without me knowing. That's me.
We can agree to disagree. That is ok. Because there are plenty of times we will agree, too.

bleuberry wrote:Peter just seems to be an easy scapegoat. Viewers aren't feeling Bryan and it isn't because of Peter IMO. Peter just needs to move on Like Shawn did and things will blow over by the time his season rolls around.

nd4reality wrote:@HEA maybe by the number of SM follows that each contestant has ? Jmo

ETA

I keep reading the tweets and comments on Instagram against Bryan and have come to the conclusion that there is nothing he can say or do that will make some folk accept him and him and Rachel. They are determined to ru. Them into the ground and are heaping doom and gloom on them individually and as a couple.

As an exampl the replied under this tweet:

https://mobile.twitter.com/BacheloretteABC/status/888836050235404288

BlueJeanBaby wrote:I may be alone but I have zero issue with Peter being in-the-moment petty regarding Bryan, and present day requests for compassion on social media. The two incidences don't, IMO, demonstrate hypocrisy so much as a lack of control when he's feeling some kind of way about a person, place or thing. He's reserved on screen, yes, but I don't think that means he's unemotional. His friends and family noted that he wears his emotions on his sleeve and I think both his deleted scenes and this clip about Bryan show that. It's all very no bullcrap, IMO.

That isn't to say he should fly off at the mouth about Bryan behind his back, but... I do agree with the notion that we don't know these people or what may have happened to lead to Peter's (PRESUMABLY) one-sided distaste. It could be as simple as the sloppy seconds comment. It could be rooted in a competitiveness exacerbated by how obvious it is that she had very strong feelings for Bryan. Or Bryan could have said some equally side-eye stuff that they haven't shown.

At this point--and I know it will be noted that TPTB don't care this much about the leads--it appears as if they are doing what they can to flip the narrative. Peter is on a pedestal that is being crumbled by the edit and his reservations. Fanatics aside, I think even the most objective viewer can see that. And Bryan is being elevated (IMO). Whether this is to "protect" Rachel from any backlash associated with her choice, or to try to get ratings back up, or to instill conflict so that people keep watching--all unclear.

But I think there is an obvious element of editing at play here. And I don't think that's just within the show, it's in social media as well. All JMO.

ETA: Bryan could very well be fantastic, and seems to be generally liked among the group. IMO, he's not getting a good edit, so much as the good parts of him are being edited out. Outside of what we presume Rachel's seen, I haven't seen enough on screen that's helped dissolve the "physical edit" he's received. There's a lot that they just aren't showing, which, IMO could apply to everything from the good in him to the "bad" or petty. I'd argue his comments about Dean's age during Dean's one-on-one were petty and ageist, especially when factoring in how young his alleged ex-gf is. All JMO.

bleuberry wrote:I think we're rewriting history a bit with Shawn but I'd rather not rehash that season. The same will happen with Peter in a couple years when someone more jealous and petty comes along. JMO.