Bachelorette 13 - Rachel Lindsay - SM Media - *Sleuthing Spoilers* Discussion - #11

lleyki wrote:I agree that I wouldn't say RS specifically was the issue. As I said, I wasn't really following the pre-sleuthing closely but I do remember that there was a lot of discussion about Peter long before the finale was filmed and before RS gave his spoiler of the Final 1.

I remember many waiting desperately for him to confirm it was Peter because there was already such a swell of support behind him. On the flipside, like others noted, people had already labeled Bryan the worse because of the Ellen group date and the sloppy seconds comment and all the stuff about his lawsuit.

When RS first said Peter was Final 1, that did take the adoration and love to new heights because I think for some it confirmed the pedestal they'd already put him on. And then came the spoiler change that I do think for some made them dislike Bryan even more because it was almost like he was ruining their fantasy.

I do think that sometimes viewers form opinions of contestants and cannot or will not let go of those no matter what. So for some Peter was the greatest man that ever graced this show before one episode aired and Bryan the scum of the earth and no matter what happens, that will not change. It doesn't matter that on the show itself, Bryan's biggest "sin" (if you want to consider it that) is he makes out with Rachel a lot and spouts cheesy lines. To some he is repulsive, fake, a liar, etc. and that's that. And it doesn't matter that Peter has seemed somewhat distant with Rachel, physically at least and himself admits he doesn't know if he's ready to open himself up to someone, much less marriage. Peter is the greatest man ever and that's that.

But more importantly, it doesn't matter what Rachel wants and who makes Rachel happy. It's all about viewers and projecting their own feelings and desires onto the situation. JMO.

Ilovepeter wrote:
"As for what Lindsay is "guilty" of throughout the rest of the season, she said we'll see her kiss more than one guy during a group date, cry over a decision and even say "I love you" to two different people -- but she "pleads the fifth" on whether or not she'll get intimate in the fantasy suites."
source: http://www.etonline.com/tv/218194_exclusive_bachelorette_rachel_lindsay_says_she_broke_the_rules_upon_revealing_her_engagement/

2observe wrote:

lleyki wrote:I agree that I wouldn't say RS specifically was the issue. As I said, I wasn't really following the pre-sleuthing closely but I do remember that there was a lot of discussion about Peter long before the finale was filmed and before RS gave his spoiler of the Final 1.

I remember many waiting desperately for him to confirm it was Peter because there was already such a swell of support behind him. On the flipside, like others noted, people had already labeled Bryan the worse because of the Ellen group date and the sloppy seconds comment and all the stuff about his lawsuit.

When RS first said Peter was Final 1, that did take the adoration and love to new heights because I think for some it confirmed the pedestal they'd already put him on. And then came the spoiler change that I do think for some made them dislike Bryan even more because it was almost like he was ruining their fantasy.

I do think that sometimes viewers form opinions of contestants and cannot or will not let go of those no matter what. So for some Peter was the greatest man that ever graced this show before one episode aired and Bryan the scum of the earth and no matter what happens, that will not change. It doesn't matter that on the show itself, Bryan's biggest "sin" (if you want to consider it that) is he makes out with Rachel a lot and spouts cheesy lines. To some he is repulsive, fake, a liar, etc. and that's that. And it doesn't matter that Peter has seemed somewhat distant with Rachel, physically at least and himself admits he doesn't know if he's ready to open himself up to someone, much less marriage. Peter is the greatest man ever and that's that.

But more importantly, it doesn't matter what Rachel wants and who makes Rachel happy. It's all about viewers and projecting their own feelings and desires onto the situation. JMO.

And, don't forget the other Reality TV Show (The Player) that Bryan was a part of.  IMO, all of that plus how smooth talking and taking the lead all led to the negative opinions of Bryan.   As always, it's just my opinion.  

Same with Jordan last year, I knew he cheated on his ex gf(she had proof) and maybe played some girls but I chose to see him as more than that, I saw the good characteristics in him and was hopeful that he would treat Jojo well and am glad to see I am not wrong yet.

SFoster wrote:But isn't Bryan a Bachelor fan? Like Whitney B, he's been a regular viewer?  It's like he's learned how to win from watching the show, just like it was said about Whitney B. Not sure, but it seems like I remember that - he's into sports and the Bachelor.

Topazgold wrote:@SFoster I remember hearing he was a fan & he also dated Jubilee from Bens season