Bachelorette 13 - Rachel Lindsay - SM Media - *Sleuthing Spoilers* Discussion - #10

umngirl wrote:

SFoster wrote:Call me crazy, but I have thought about that maybe the whole Lee thing is fabricated.  

Considering all the horrible, racist things Lee has tweeted/liked in the past I'm gonna go with him just being his natural censored self on the show. JMO

Right, and tptb knew this going into the show...fit their storyline and the direction they wanted to go. jmo

A little off current line of discussion, and could be waaay off base.

I was wondering maybe one of the guys, F2 or F3, recently tried pulled an Arie/Nick 1.0. I was watching the THR video with Rachel and Channing, and when Channing said the first record she bought was Jackson 5's, I Want You Back, Rachel said " we can have a really good convo about that later", or something like that. We've seen how gossipy, chatty she can get (Ellen) when she is around certain women ( I think the ones she respects), my immediate thought after she made that comment was that it was about the show. She already said it on Big boy that none of her pre-tv exs have tried to get her back. Or she could have been talking about the album.

julychild wrote:A little off current line of discussion, and could be waaay off base.

I was wondering maybe one of the guys, F2 or F3, recently tried pulled an Arie/Nick 1.0. I was watching the THR video with Rachel and Channing, and when Channing said the first record she bought was Jackson 5's, I Want You Back, Rachel said " we can have a really good convo about that later", or something like that. We've seen how gossipy, chatty she can get (Ellen) when she is around certain women ( I think the ones she respects), my immediate thought after she made that comment was that it was about the show. She already said it on Big boy that none of her pre-tv exs have tried to get her back. Or she could have been talking about the album.

I did not get this vibe. I thought that she was on her utter ladylike behavior though. Her voice was soft. Her way to sit was ladylike. Her response were perfect. I felt she was either impressed or wanted to impressed. either one. IMO

With Ellen, I felt she just had fun with her. Was she impressed to be there? probably. Ellen is a star. But it was all fun IMO. She may have shared some comments (like when they went thru the detector) but I do not think it was mean. tickle monster is not gossips, that is the way he called himself... and forgot the other one but I did not see it in a negative way IMO

Do I put Rachel on a pedestal? Heck no! I did not like her stubborn attitude with Fred. He grew up and the fact she did not want to see him adult was ridiculous. I think she is very self centered and like many bachelorette, this gig made her feel a bit too special with divas tendencies IMO But on that, she is no different with MeAnna or MeAli or MeAndi etc... Not terrible, most girl would feel that way if they had hundred of people saying that they loooooooooooooved her during last season with Nick etc. In fact I blame way more those OTT people who put her on a pedestal.

Anyway. I think she is okay and fill in the job with class... which is not I can say the same thing with all the previous bachelorette before her.

all is JMO

julychild wrote:A little off current line of discussion, and could be waaay off base.

I was wondering maybe one of the guys, F2 or F3, recently tried pulled an Arie/Nick 1.0. I was watching the THR video with Rachel and Channing, and when Channing said the first record she bought was Jackson 5's, I Want You Back, Rachel said " we can have a really good convo about that later", or something like that. We've seen how gossipy, chatty she can get (Ellen) when she is around certain women ( I think the ones she respects), my immediate thought after she made that comment was that it was about the show. She already said it on Big boy that none of her pre-tv exs have tried to get her back. Or she could have been talking about the album.

This has crossed my mind also.

I'm guessing because a return has happened in the past it's likely to any season. And we have not had one for a couple of years. So maybe that storyline is due.

Btw have you done any sleuthing on producer/ handlers whereabouts?

Rachel's at the gym Source

Lost17 wrote:

umngirl wrote:

SFoster wrote:Call me crazy, but I have thought about that maybe the whole Lee thing is fabricated.  

Considering all the horrible, racist things Lee has tweeted/liked in the past I'm gonna go with him just being his natural censored self on the show. JMO

Right, and tptb knew this going into the show...fit their storyline and the direction they wanted to go. jmo

I agree. They were looking for something like Lee for this type of drama. It's their style. IMO.

ReneeM wrote:Rachel's at the gym Source

That is the first baptist academy http://www.fbacademy.com

My guess is her old school.

Yes. That is where she graduated from.

@Tiggerlgh Thanks! I was trying to figure out where she was.

She's also posted videos working out on her IG story, sweating and everything. Girl's getting it.

Kashathediva wrote:

Lost17 wrote:

umngirl wrote:

Considering all the horrible, racist things Lee has tweeted/liked in the past I'm gonna go with him just being his natural censored self on the show. JMO

Right, and tptb knew this going into the show...fit their storyline and the direction they wanted to go. jmo

I agree. They were looking for something like Lee for this type of drama. It's their style. IMO.

Ya'll are kind not to think I'm crazy. But let me go further and then you may think I am ! I meant that Lee Garrett is not really his real name, he's a hired actor, perhaps even his twitter was created for this purpose. I mean, they shut down his twitter, did anyone actually see his tweets? I've just read about the tweets in various articles but are there any eyewitnesses? I believed the whole thing until I read that Lee stated that he had played gigs all over Nashville. Yet he has no music videos, no itunes. Singer/songwriter? No music online? Maybe he does but in his own real name? And also it would explain how some seem to be friends outside the show. These guys are pretty good guys this season, and I think they wanted this type of drama for sure! And to send a message that this type of racism is alive and well. But maybe the real person Lee is nothing like it. RS even said he seems to be a James Spader type actor, so maybe he is "auditioning" to break into acting. If he is a totally other person, he is doing a great job acting. I'm not sure I believe this, but I just can't see a guy doing this on tv knowing he cannot lead a normal life again ever. I guess we'll never know unless we see him in a movie down the road! I just started thinking like this when I noticed Lee in the pic and how others seem to be friends with him.

That is an interesting premise. Art imitating life. I could possibly see TPTB doing this. It would be in even poorer taste IMO. (having a racist storyline and looking for an actor to spark the drama.)
The only thing IMO is that unfortunately, it would probably be easier to find someone like Lee than to have to go out and find an actor and with no credentials etc or willing to wipe clean the credits and pursue this line.
I consider myself a minority although not a person of color. I lived in rural America for quite awhile, certainly long enough to realize there would be no shortage of filling that role without an actor, I am sorry to say.

I'm going to believe Lee is exactly who some of us think he is. SM tweets were posted by the tabloids and maybe sleuthers here I don't recall.

We had a new member very early on in sleuthing, that posted some pretty nasty things about Lee well before the tweets became public knowledge, shortly after @adf23 uncovered him.

To be fair, we then had another new member that posted and said he isn't any of those things, and that he's a nice guy.

I can't imagine anyone playing that role on purpose. He would be crazy if he did. IMHO.