Bachelorette 13 - Rachel Lindsay - General Discussion - *Sleuthing Spoilers* - #3

djogbenyuie wrote:@likeashipblown

Wow I agree with every single word. Especially when you say Peter was the safer risk and she feared making a mistake because she was not going for what she was used to.

Kashathediva wrote:

nd4reality wrote:May thoughts are that R eliminates Eric at F3, goes for an LCD with Peter and then in the evening portation they talk and cry and she eliminates him (SCs in the rain).

OR he eliminates himself. I didn't see anyone posting this, maybe I missed it.
IMO that is more likely because he isn't feeling it blah blah and that will gaurantee to turn the overwhelming love for P to an avalanche on SM. He will be the conquoring hero for doing the right thing and folks will say that Bryan was the default F1.

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Wouldn't that be full circle for Peter and be foreshadowing from his talk during his HTD where he discussed how traumatic it was letting that other relationship go to the point of tears. I can see him telling Rachel he has go, we see him crying on the floor, and then we see her walking outside in the rain crying. Full circle and ties in the HTD talk with the ex.

likeashipblown wrote:Just my opinion... I think she lets Peter go.

Because in the previews in the rain, she says, "I don't want to repeat what I've done in every single relationship." That means that's her self-awareness driving her and her growth, it would seem.

Combine that with Peter saying something about not wanting to give up on her, right? That all seems like Rachel sort of has to be the one to initiate their ending, doesn't it? Even if it's a mutual decision by the end?

That all dovetails in to her interview with ABC News where she said: "and I run toward the one that's more complicated, and who I can fix and we can work on it together."

I truly believe, as much as she knew it was Bryan, that didn't make it as easy for her as it might seem given her default behaviors.

She told Bryan very clearly on one of their dates that she never believes in the good when it happens to her as far as relationships, and she's scared of the good, because she's afraid of putting herself out there, being vulnerable, and getting hurt.

She basically has spelled out for us all season Bryan is the one who has the power to hurt her the most and who she fears the most. She kept saying, "what scares me..." in regards to him. And she keeps saying post show, "it's scary, because he's exactly who he said he is."  Bryan was her biggest fear/risk, imo. Precisely because he had it all together, loved her, wanted her, courted her the whole time, and kept telling her he wasn't going to let her sabotage them.

She knows how to do relationships where she runs towards a complicated situation, she can fix it, they can work together to fix it, etc. Peter, even without a proposal, would have been the safer choice for Rachel because she knows that terrain and she doesn't see it as the same type of emotional/vulnerability risk, imo.

The huge risk for Rachel was truly letting herself believe in the good. Or in this case, the too good to be true. The huge risk was after all those years of believing she couldn't have it all and settling for those types of relationships... the risk was that.. that she could, and it was right there, and it was real. To truly believe that the guy who was everything she wanted, wanted her back, wanted the life she wanted with her.

When you're afraid to just let go and believe, and when you run towards complicated, I get why you'd say you fear you are making a mistake when you finally find the courage to break the pattern, and I get why you'd have a meltdown when you're letting your default setting go, in this case, Peter and that relationship.  That's a lot. That's huge.

Knowing, wanting, and acting on are totally different things. Listening to your heart, trusting your heart, and following your heart are not the same as knowing what it wants. I think this all goes to Chris' early comments about how Rachel almost plotted on herself trying to overthink it.

I think the Peter break-up will be emotional for her, but I still think she initiates it, and I don't think the emotion is necessarily even going to be ALL about Peter, as much as it is her breaking through. Finally. Breaking your bad habit cycle is a huge effing deal and... scary. She'll be sad about Peter, of course, I take nothing away from that, but given how much they've divulged, I think it's easy to see why she'd be so emotional and so scared for way deeper reasons. She was running towards her biggest risk despite it being "easy" or "guaranteed" to her... as far as her insecurities, it was anything but.  

Just my opinion. Can they give us some previews though? Jeez.

sdmom wrote:@likeashipblown ， @lleyki I love these two posts so much!

I remember what I read somewhere and it pretty much says the same thing: it seems like Rachel was the go-fixer, the problem-solver in her past relationships. Maybe her mentality is if she works hard, the problems will go away. The harder she works, the greater the reward will be. Look how she's accomplished in her life so far! So, imo, that's why she works so hard to draw Peter out, because if she can fix him, she will enjoy the reward so much more!
But love should not be so hard! Bryan is the total opposite of her old belief. He's too good to be true. It's too easy to be good. She doesn't need to be the one who works so hard to earn love, because he accepts who she is, her flaws and all. She admitted she has never had this before, this unconditional acceptance and constant affirmation, imo.
So her crying, part of it's relate to Peter, part is, imo, her a-ha moment : she's free to love and to be loved! It's good but still scary and she's not used to it. Plus fatigue, physically and emotionally, has a part in it, too.
All Jmo. But I truly hope she let Peter go before FRC. I think it's kinder to him and to Bryan too.

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And in my opinion, that's what she realized and made a decision that was right for her. As for all the boo-hooing we see in the previews, well we don't know what Peter says when she comes to end things. Maybe he pulls a 25th hour "I love you", confusing her and her feelings.

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