Bachelorette 13 - Rachel Lindsay - Episodes - Discussion - **NO SPOILERS** - *SLEUTHING* DISCUSSION

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Just weighing in. I have tried to stay off to get my bearings and sort out all the players (pun intended)!

In the season preview aired Monday night, we hear Will in a VO say, "in my wildest dreams, I never thought I would be in Sweden". The VO starts over the dog sled with presumably Peter and R and ends over the shot of Will and R walking down the street together. It is definitely Will's voice and I don't know what other time that sentence could apply, since there is nothing else that points to Sweden that I can see. You can take the bridge from Copenhagen to Sweden in short time. It is only 30 km to Malmo which appears to have become a tourist spot since it makes a day trip easy from Denmark to Sweden since they opened the bridge. Could they have done this for their 1-1 date?

From the For What It's Worth Department, I have always thought the dog sled/snow date with Peter and R was in Switzerland. But, of course, I could be wrong, it just makes the most sense to me for some reason.

HEA wrote:

HEA wrote:Please correct me... i am just trying to figure out a timeline


CA
1-1 Peter (as per my deduction maybe malibu playing stars in front of paps?) ???
GD basketball (10 guys) with first drama exit Demario (GF)
GD picnic + BBQ (8 guys)

CA
1-1 Dean (air balloons) - place not sleughted
1-1 Anthony at Malibu (cowboy) - sleughted by sophienette
GD: Karting (we saw one on its side and a couple guys around)

SC
1-1 Jack (Caleche, dance) - sleughted
1-1 Eric with sensory playing 50 shades?
GD Boat le Vagabond (peter, bryan, ...) - sleughted

Spain... a drama happened there, we saw Rachel crying and emotional during the PI
1-1 Will ? (pastry baker shop) - not sleughted
1-1 Dean (kissing on fort, visiting an historical city?) - place not sleughted
GD historical crusades? with games where Kenny got hurt?... with diner drama with Lee - not sleughted completly by me

Switzerland
1-1 Bryan (boat and flowers garden)
1-1 Repel with red coat, possibly peter or jack or anthony or alex (guy is tall)?
2-1 ? Matt and Adam in anecy  in france - sleughted by sophienette
GD geneva visit with local cafe and pastry shops (eric and Will) + bonfire at night with lee eric jack

Copenhagen / Denmark
1-1 ??
1-1 Peter (dog sleigh, snow) - place to be confirmed
GD dean bryan matt alex - sleughted by lost17

Hometown F4

quoting myself to see if we can update it

Didn't Sophie say the Bryan 2nd 1-1 was in France, the boat ride and the garden?

Are you talking about the emotional PI where she talks about how people are going to judge her for her choices?
If so, she is wearing the same dress in that PI that she is wearing at the very beginning of the Season Preview only she has a coat over it. I am fairly sure that is Copenhagen. The architecture in the background and buildings with the green turrets or whatever you call them on top of buildings. You can see them in other countries, but they seem to be more prevalent in Denmark.

The repel guy with the red coat could be anywhere. All of the sites mentioned can look so similar. There seems to be water everywhere over there. Someone mentioned before they thought it was Switzerland because of the trees and the water. I tend to agree with that. The guy does look tall, but, Jack is the shortest guy of the main players at 5'10 or 11" the others said to be 6'2" except for Will and Peter at 6'3". Can anyone get a close up of his left hand? It looks light to me, but it could be a glove. Oh, how I miss my MAC!

@moonchild  so glad another player is here!

please feel free to change and update.

My first question that I need answer is why do we think that they go to spain first after SC. Why not go straight to sweeden, then switzerland and then spain... instead the other direction?

Then I change my mind about dog sledding. I think now it is in switzerland and nearby where they are which is Lac Leman.

Sled dogs - Glacier 3000

They can even do that in France in Chamonix

Dog Sledding in the Chamonix Valley - Huskies in Chamonix

I had this preconceived notion that it was maybe too hot for the dogs all year long but I forgot that they are high in mountains, the Alps.

yes... I made a close up of the hand and it is for me white. but could be gloves, most unlikely white gloves but still a possibility.

I am also wondering about kenny with this sail boat model behind him when he cries. for me it could be in Copenhagen and viking related. I would think that all the tourist hotel have this viking theme around.... but then he would also go far since I believe he was part of a crusades theme game in spain when he is injured... OR it could be a VIKING theme game too. They look to have armor of some kind on the head. but vikings have horns no? maybe not all. i dunno

i agree about the reppel... for me it looks more like a geneva/france/alps/lac leman area.

Then my other question is where is the bonfire with jack eric and lee? it looks like a fish white house behind? they are wearing warm clothes so spain and SC are out of question i think.

My boss met this sweden woman and decided to live there. I used to book all his flights and I am very familiar about geneva/stockholm/copenhagen/malmo etc. He told me that  temps in winter were not that bad... and for a guy from quebec where we can go easily under -10F in january/february... if he said that, it means temperate...... the dog sledding in march/april does not seems temperate. it looks cold. especially the picnic part.

then we also have this helicopter.. is it part of the dog sledding date? is it part of the reppel date? Sophienette mentioned that Peter in his bio says he is afraid of height so we know what that means right?

For me bryan is front and center on episode 1.. same with josiah... and narrators were bryan, jack and peter.

So what happened with Josiah? the over confident cocky guy with a very nice long heartbreak intro video?? Don't you think they are maybe pushing for the next bachelor position? Black bachelorette and black bachelor next? Although I see Bryan very much next bachelor

i am thinking right now dean and peter as top 2 (based on multiple 1-1 each). For me bryan is too obvious and essentially because we only see his tongue on her throat which I am sure she enjoyed as the guy is quite handsome.

I think she likes diverse but she likes white guys a lot and she has a type: tall, dark hair, 5 o'clock beard. Perfect bachelorette for prods who gave white bach(ette) with white F1 for more than a decade. If she picks a white F1, it may be a smooth transition for certain people. As for me I do not care. I think it was about time and I am happy it finally happened. I like her so far. And I like the guys outside the morons of course.

@sophienette hey we cough you cough have another place to sleugh!!

rachel with the large green sleeves... we see again sea or city in the background, seams to me a 2-1 gesture??

are synopsis allowed in the non spoiled? we should know episode 2 by now
are we allowed to go on ABCpress? do we find spoilers there?
and finally do we have other teasers available?

Please correct me... i am just trying to figure out a timeline

Credit to @sophienette and @Lost17 and @moonchild

What was sleughed:

CA (23)
1-1 Peter (photoshoot with glasses on the bench)
1-1 Anthony at City Hall  in Beverly hills (cowboy)
GD basketball (10 guys) with first drama exit Demario (GF)
GD picnic + BBQ (8 guys)

South Carolina SC
1-1 Jack Stone (Caleche, dance)
1-1
GD Boat le Vagabond (peter, bryan, ...) - Hilton Head Island, SC

Northern Spain / San Millán de la Cogolla (northern Spain)
1-1
1-1
GD

Switzerland / French border / Lac Leman / Geneva / Morges
1-1 Bryan (boat and flowers garden) - Morges near Lauzanne
1-1 Dean in Geneva (cathedralle)
2-1 ? Matt and Adam in Château de Coudrée, in Sciez-sur-Léman
GD ?

Sweden / Copenhagen / Denmark/ Kronborg castle in Denmark (known as Hamlet's castle)
1-1 Will (pastry baker shop in Helsinborg, Sweden)
1-1
GD dean bryan matt alex - Roskilde Denmark

Hometown F4



What we saw, need to be inserted in timeline

I will split in 3: summer clothes and spring/winter clothes and unknown

unkhown
GD or 1-1 ? Eric kissing her with a blindfold?
GD: Karting ? (we saw one on its side and a couple guys around)
GD diner with lee turning around, arms in the air
GD? historical game? maybe Viking or Crusades or Hamlet where Kenny got hurt

cold
1-1 Peter (dog sled, snow picnic) we see mountains so could be Switzerland and assuming dog sled is peter
1-1 Helicopter ride (the Alps?)
GD jack eric and lee around a bonfire at night with warm clothes (drama)
1-1 Repel with red coat tall guy, foliage can be Switz. or Sweden ?
1-1 Eric? in outdoor spa
1-1? Eric talking with R on a tourist boat next to a pier

hot
1-1 Dean (air balloons) + sunset + car picnic... (because of the foliage when they walk at night I think SC)
GD some white armor, one pushing the other like football play (kenny and lucas?)... maybe GD in CA ?
1-1 R and ? kissing with fireworks


please use this and update at your will.

funny that I keep thinking that they will start in Sweden and ends in Spain... not sure why.  maybe because of this?

i don't know if anyone tried to walk in this but it is hard, truly truly hard.


from recorded TV episode 1 - my sc


then I have few puzzlement....

Bryan and R kissing first night with first rose impression rose...... reminds me an awfully lot of jordan and jojo..... He took her away from everyone, and the place was quite romantic, so the kiss was expected, directed by prods?

if peter has the first 1-1, it is never good... yet he will have a 2nd date in snow and she said in PI with same dress that she is a smitten kitten. so is he a next bachelor plant? He is from WI and is a business man... how would it work regarding relocation with her job in Dallas

dean, was seen after the finale, has 2 1-1 in SC (baloon) and geneva (cathedrale) and GD in Denmark. He is a recruiter in CA, so can be easily relocated. Prods made it special for dean when they gave him this castle sand prop.

prods selected 2 lawyers and both from Dallas where she is located.... Jack Stone and Josiah. I think I recall reading somewhere that she never date attorneys.... so why did they cast them and in the same city?? It is as if you do not like orange and they force you to swallow them anyway. ETA: Josiah is from FL. Fred is the one from Dallas (see below post @stuckinsc)

Josiah is from FL not TX.

is he? thanks

then it must be fred I mixed with

HEA wrote:is he? thanks

then it must be fred I mixed with

Yes, she and Fred grew up together in Dallas.

stuckinsc wrote:

HEA wrote:is he? thanks

then it must be fred I mixed with

Yes, she and Fred grew up together in Dallas.