Rachel Lindsay - Bachelor 21 - *Sleuthing Spoilers* - #2

I think they might give Rachel a favourable edit, but to balance things out they're gonna have to cast some proper crazies for her. The drama must be had, no matter who the lead the is! JMO.

AllAboutLove wrote:This show has changed a lot in the recent years and since TPTB (per CH) got together to revamp the show. Add in the fact that SM has taken this show in a totally unprecedented direction and for the worse, I really don't see how Rachel will be some sort of exception at all.

Perhaps most telling is that I think more than ever before this show is about drama, getting the next Lead, and BIP auditions for contestants. It's why I think the lead doesn't matter to TPTB other than for them to get what they want -- which is more drama if going by past recent seasons and TPTB will do whatever they can to amp up the drama.

So if anything, I only see things getting worse for the next leads and not easier - especially Rachel's season as it is already rife with lots of additional potential drama this show hasn't seen before and I won't be surprised if it gets really really ugly IMO.

Perhaps that is in part why Rachel has been chosen - More potential drama for TPTB to exploit!  

I so agree with all this. Along with the fact that she hasn't watch any season's or knows the potential wrath of TPTB.

Even if the guys are crazies, she has to deal with them. Her reaction and how she handles difficult crazy people will be telling.

I wish she would have talked to JPG prior to accepting.

GuardianAngel wrote:

AllAboutLove wrote:This show has changed a lot in the recent years and since TPTB (per CH) got together to revamp the show. Add in the fact that SM has taken this show in a totally unprecedented direction and for the worse, I really don't see how Rachel will be some sort of exception at all.

Perhaps most telling is that I think more than ever before this show is about drama, getting the next Lead, and BIP auditions for contestants. It's why I think the lead doesn't matter to TPTB other than for them to get what they want -- which is more drama if going by past recent seasons and TPTB will do whatever they can to amp up the drama.

So if anything, I only see things getting worse for the next leads and not easier - especially Rachel's season as it is already rife with lots of additional potential drama this show hasn't seen before and I won't be surprised if it gets really really ugly IMO.

Perhaps that is in part why Rachel has been chosen - More potential drama for TPTB to exploit!  

I so agree with all this. Along with the fact that she hasn't watch any season's or knows the potential wrath of TPTB.

Even if the guys are crazies, she has to deal with them. Her reaction and how she handles difficult crazy people will be telling.

This is why I think she already has shown me she isn't prepared to handle this based on the IG story and Ellen show comments. If she can't even move on and refrain from talking about disliking another contestant from stuff that happened months ago while she is already announced the lead then she's going to have a really, really rough time dealing with the SM backlash should she do anything viewers don't like. 

Not to mention, if Rachel is someone that keeps it "real" yet still holds grudges and thinks she's all that with "his loss" then it only makes me think more I think of "I am just keeping it real" Kaitlyn who I think still can't handle stuff, thinks she's all that, and holds grudges.  

Rachel needs to learn from JoJo who handled things very well, IMO, especially considering what she was put through with the lead as F2 and not once did JoJo say "his loss" or any such thing. Instead she was grateful for being the next lead and kept it positive and still does. 

At the moment though, Rachel seems to be looking more like Andi and Kaitlyn than JoJo to me as lead and if she ends up more like them -- Andi 2.0 combined with Kaitlyn 2.0 -- all I can say is that is definitely not a good look.   

jmo

I can't think of anyone recent other than JPG who the show really hated. He also made homophobic remarks which further alienated him. Even Andi and Kaitlyn get called back for stuff. As long as Rachel isn't a pain in the azz to the crew, she should be fine generally speaking JMO. The show will do what the show does every season. JMO.

bleuberry wrote:I can't think of anyone recent other than JPG who the show really hated. He also made homophobic remarks which further alienated him. Even Andi and Kaitlyn get called back for stuff. As long as Rachel isn't a pain in the azz to the crew, she should be fine generally speaking JMO. The show will do what the show does every season. JMO.

He made comments that did not serve him with representative of the show standing right next to him mum. He made unpopular choices during filming. He chose battles left and right that he did not realize cost him greatly. His example should be one leads learn from. It's not all on him. He was led to the wolves, IMO and fed to the wolves.

Do you think Rachel had sex with Nick? Sure seems like it.

I don't even want to guess. I don't think anyone will ever find out for sure.

If I did have to guess I would say No. I believe the only one would be Vanessa.

Call me a "naïve idiot" I won't be offended

I think Nick had sex with all his F3 IMO.

atem wrote:Do you think Rachel had sex with Nick?  Sure seems like it.

I actually think not.  
She took him to her church and a fair amount of air time was given to that portion of the date.  What message does it send for her have sex with Nick while he dates 2 other women.  Doesn't jive IMO.  Another case of edit foreshadow?

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]. I think no sex with anyone on FSDs, that he will wait until the last date. No proof though

Just because Rachel went to church with Nick doesn't mean she wouldn't have sex with him.

I hope she didn't have it at church, however.