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Post by Lennoxcolinrolland Tue Feb 21, 2017 2:46 pm

Ladybug82 wrote:IMO, it has nothing to do with if Ben trust Lauren or vice versa.  It is the image they continue to put out.  You'd think they'd either minimize their SM presence as a whole or at least present a pretty united front.  

Instead we have them together for 10 days or whatever, filming for a couple of that.  Then as soon as they go their separate ways and we have Lauren out drinking and partying it up again.  Regardless of what Ben was doing, this look on Lauren every time they aren't together is growing old, IMO.  But when you add her living it up with Bach nation and driving a a jag (be it comped or paid for by her) while Ben is in Honduras, be it to do a lot of mission work or just some general business work to set up for more mission work in the future, its not a good look at all, IMO.  IMO, it makes me further question their status and if these two are actually compatible.  

I'm not saying that Ben doesn't do the same or that Lauren isn't allowed to do what she's doing.  But since that's the continues behavior we get from her or friends on SM, I'm going to give her some Suspect, because I can. laugh out loud

I'm sure many won't agree and that's ok.  JMOAA

I agree! laugh out loud Like you said, it's moreso the image thats being put out there's that's questionable. IMO.

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Post by sosleepy Tue Feb 21, 2017 2:47 pm

Mommyof2 wrote:Different lifestyles.  I hope they pull the plug soon.  I feel sorry for their fans though.  

https://www.instagram.com/p/BQtGqo8jeyO/?taken-by=higgins.ben&hl=en

https://www.instagram.com/p/BQq523_F_ti/

LOL! Thank. You. laugh out loud 

duh

I feel so over defending them. I just want Ben to stop BSing and pull the plug.
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Post by Lennoxcolinrolland Tue Feb 21, 2017 2:47 pm

bleuberry wrote:@Simon21 what Lauren did was basically show up on snapchat. laugh out loud People can't talk about what they don't see. My issue with my generation is the need to publicize everything. Ben probably does enjoy the odd night out but maybe he isn't doing it with the likes of Luke and Chase. Side note: she couldn't have surrounded herself with a more unlikeable bunch of alums IMO. Side eyeing that just a bit. laugh out loud
That's to be expected! She's bffs with Amanda and the twins & has been getting really close with Lace for the last few months, and she's hung out with Chase and Luke a few times already.


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Post by Lennoxcolinrolland Tue Feb 21, 2017 2:50 pm

Here's a photo of Benji and his parents from when they were in NYC.

https://instagram.com/p/BQrGdBghA7h/

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Post by Sprite Tue Feb 21, 2017 4:17 pm

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Cocoasneeze wrote:I still don't get whst he expected her to say. 'Your 3 sentences were brilliantly though out, witty and wonderful!'

IMO it really says nothing about their priorities, that Ben went to a prescheduled charity trip, and while Lauren didn't join him, she hung out with friends and went out. IMO charity work is not a competition, and  everyone does what they can, when they can. I love Ben for his charity work, but IMO it doesn't make him better than. IMO that attitude puts pressure on charity work, and that's not ideal. JMO

The problem isn't that he was on a charity trip and she stayed home....or that she hung out with friends. The problem was her behaviour while hanging out with those friends and the fact that said behaviour seems to becoming a pattern of late. That along with the fact that they haven't been together much lately and when they are together, generally both seem miserable, is a cause for questioning the state of their relationship, which many seem to be doing.

If she wasn't in a relationship, it would be not be an issue.

What is her questionable behaviour? She had a few drinks with friends out in a club or a bar. Giggled and had a silly fun night. That's it. When he hangs out with friends for drinks, no one says hus behaviour is questionable. IMO

I have yet to see Ben giggling, drunk and generally making an a** of himself when he is out and about anywhere. I have also never questioned if he may or may not have been flirting with a member of the opposite sex when out and about. JMO


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Post by Sprite Tue Feb 21, 2017 4:40 pm

Simon21 wrote:
traveler90 wrote:
Ladybug82 wrote:

You and me both!  laugh out loud laugh out loud  Me more than a bit, but... laugh out loud
Me three laugh out loud Isn't there a phrase that state: You're only as good or bad as the people you surround yourself with? For Lauren, that's recently been Lacy, Amanda, the twins, Chase, Luke... Should I go on? laugh out loud


And who are the likeable ones?? Are there anyone untouched by the fame or who don't take advantage of being in spotlight from  this bachelor franchise esp the recent ones??

I guess who is likeable depends on what each of us personally values. I don't have a problem with people taking advantage of their 15 minutes to further their business goals, make some $ off the shilling opportunities offered their way or go to events they are invited to as a result. Some of my favourites have used those opportunities to their advantage. It is how they act when doing such things that is in question.

Do I think Lauren and her blog is any different then Becca and her blog? Or any other person from this franchise who decides to write a blog? No. To me they are all pretty much equally vapid and I won't be wasting my time on any of them. That said, some don't act all stupid and drunk when out and about. I personally value some decorum. That is me. If you are going to get drunk and act stupid, don't put it out there on SM. Again, that is me. Others may differ.

I guess the real problem I have here with Lauren is that she is supposedly in a relationship. This is not how I would wish my significant other to be acting when I am not around...male or female.


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Post by elena.shayk Tue Feb 21, 2017 4:50 pm

Sprite wrote:
Simon21 wrote:
traveler90 wrote:
Me three laugh out loud Isn't there a phrase that state: You're only as good or bad as the people you surround yourself with? For Lauren, that's recently been Lacy, Amanda, the twins, Chase, Luke... Should I go on? laugh out loud


And who are the likeable ones?? Are there anyone untouched by the fame or who don't take advantage of being in spotlight from  this bachelor franchise esp the recent ones??

I guess who is likeable depends on what each of us personally values. I don't have a problem with people taking advantage of their 15 minutes to further their business goals, make some $ off the shilling opportunities offered their way or go to events they are invited to as a result. Some of my favourites have used those opportunities to their advantage. It is how they act when doing such things that is in question.

Do I think Lauren and her blog is any different then Becca and her blog? Or any other person from this franchise who decides to write a blog? No. To me they are all pretty much equally vapid and I won't be wasting my time on any of them. That said, some don't act all stupid and drunk when out and about. I personally value some decorum. That is me. If you are going to get drunk and act stupid, don't put it out there on SM. Again, that is me. Others may differ.

I guess the real problem I have here with Lauren is that she is supposedly in a relationship. This is not how I would wish my significant other to be acting when I am not around...male or female.

THIS!! clapping!
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Post by sosleepy Tue Feb 21, 2017 5:25 pm

To be fair, we don't have many pics of Ben acting silly and drunk because he doesn't use social media for that. Which is smart. I have no doubt this happens for him. Especially when he is out and about with all his dude friends in Denver. If we get anything, it's because someone else captured it. And he doesn't tend to hang with Bachelor rejects with the same frequency as Lauren, and that's the type of crowd that wants us to know their every move.

To be further fair, Lauren didn't share anything from that particular night on her social media. The dumba$$es she was with did. She has shared some idiocy in the past, but most of her drunkness gets shared when Duh/Twin1/Twin2/Lace/AshleyI/whichever other D List alumni she is with is over sharing. Not totally defending that, cause I wish she'd lay off spending so much time with this crowd. Especially like Chase/Luke/Robby. Ick. But my point being, she shares less than her friends do.


And here I am defending her/them like two posts below when I said I was gonna stop. HELP. Someone enlist me in a 12-step program stat!! laugh out loud
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Post by Alanna Tue Feb 21, 2017 5:29 pm

Lauren is IMO, a truly classic example of, show me who your friends are and I'll tell you who you are. She can hide behind every syrupy sweet story about daddy mowing the lawn she can crib straight from Parenthood/ This is Us and share empty platitudes about her kindness far and wide, her motley gang of misfit Bach besties tells her story perfectly IMO.


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Post by GuardianAngel Tue Feb 21, 2017 5:30 pm

IMO it's not a matter of defending, it's different POV's with good information. A lot of times I'm not aware of the ongoings on SM because I don't watch anyone's s/chat's or IG stories, only what I read here.

So it's all good IMO yes


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Post by Sprite Tue Feb 21, 2017 5:49 pm

sosleepy wrote:To be fair, we don't have many pics of Ben acting silly and drunk because he doesn't use social media for that. Which is smart. I have no doubt this happens for him. Especially when he is out and about with all his dude friends in Denver. If we get anything, it's because someone else captured it. And he doesn't tend to hang with Bachelor rejects with the same frequency as Lauren, and that's the type of crowd that wants us to know their every move.

To be further fair, Lauren didn't share anything from that particular night on her social media. The dumba$$es she was with did. She has shared some idiocy in the past, but most of her drunkness gets shared when Duh/Twin1/Twin2/Lace/AshleyI/whichever other D List alumni she is with is over sharing. Not totally defending that, cause I wish she'd lay off spending so much time with this crowd. Especially like Chase/Luke/Robby. Ick. But my point being, she shares less than her friends do.


And here I am defending her/them like two posts below when I said I was gonna stop. HELP. Someone enlist me in a 12-step program stat!! laugh out loud

I get you, but if this is what her friends have done in the past, either:

-- ask them not to post you
-- don't act like a drunk
-- don't go out with them in the first place
-- find new friends

She knows this about them and yet carried on as usual. This is either a lack of self awareness of her friends and how they reflect on you or she could give two figs how this looks to Ben or how it makes him feel. Either way, I don't think it bodes well for their relationship durability.


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Post by sosleepy Tue Feb 21, 2017 6:03 pm

^ I agree @sprite. When things were good with them, Lauren hardly ever partied like this. It's been increasing in frequency ever since we started to notice problems. Typical behavior for a 20-something whose relationship is imploding, imo. 

I hope one of them just gets brave enough soon to stick a fork in it and call it a good effort and good bye.
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