Nick Viall - Bachelor 21 - Episode 6 Feb 6 - *Sleuthing Spoilers*

lleyki wrote:

northernviewer wrote:

Cocoasneeze wrote:I haven't watched the episode yet, so I might be off base.

Did this show, that has not in over 30 seasons cast a black person as a lead, have Lorna, a black woman cater to Corinne's needs?! Really?!? How tone deaf can this show be? Did she really compare her to her own personal nanny?! An adult woman who can't function with basic chores needs the hotel staff to pamper her? Really? That is just, IMO, too much.

About the black maid ....the population is about 3/4,s black ... dont see the big deal about it , they probably got a staff member to come in and pamper the girls ...especially Coriinne just for the footage to mock her.  Corinne was the one being dissed.

Except that's not how it came across to some, including myself. I get that some saw nothing wrong with the whole thing and yes, 90 percent of the population of most Caribbean islands is black. However, the reality is there is an uncomfortable history that exists between black people and white people and so no, speaking for myself as a black woman, I did not enjoy seeing a woman old enough to probably be a grandmother waiting on some spoiled, pampered blonde white girl while it's all "in good fun". Like I said in another page, all that was missing was for Corinne to call her Mamee to really complete the offensive picture.

Kashathediva wrote:My feelings are:
The lead is exhausted with the process. He is now realizing he is jumping through hoops trying to do the show. He is seeing he has very little in common with all of the women except for one or two.
So for the most part he is spinning his wheels doing stuff he couldn't care less about with women he couldn't care less about.
The women are becoming frustrated with the process. So everyone has had it, particularly him.
Then--with as little time as he gets with the one or two that he likes, he is beginning to wonder if given the time could they even work.
Meantime, he still has "weeks" to go in the process.
A day in the life of the lead.
Pound of flesh.  

ukglasgowkiiss wrote:Wow i love how we had expected to be shown all types of stuff( as evidenced in the 30 page thread) before it aired- and that episode 6 was,well ...Cray Cray.
All over the shop with the edit. Have they tried to make it more like BIP edit but failed to meet basic plot requirements. If you show Vanessa & Nick for only one second- at end of group date & then cut, why bother showing them at all.  
That said- the main shock i got was seeing his reasons why Nick was so upset after sending both girls home.
IA that for sure he was genuinely having those feelings of doubt.  Its hard for me as a Nessa fan to see him conflicted as to me ( biased view) it is obvious that they are a great match. However one reading of why he got so disheartened might be that V perhaps did express how upset she was and frustrated with the process to him, and perhaps him having to reassure her meant they as a couple cd not connect in those few moments as he couldnt express the weight the lead has to carry and thus felt isolated and disconnected from her as well as all the others.  All jmo.  Just a possibility.
I also think its a good thing he had a sort of breakdown / crisis of faith mid way through rather than at the end about to choose f1. It seems almost a given he would hv to have a meltdown over the stakes being so high, given his past experiences. I think it was very selfish of him to bring that negativity down on the remaining 6 women in the way he did- as all that did was make them all feel undervalued even more.  However he did say from the start that he wd be transparent and honest - so I respect him for sticking to that.  The other alternative might hv been for him to individually express his doubts to each one or confide in certain women only- which seems unfair too. So overall perhaps best for him to tell them all as one.
Hopefully the rest of these episodes will reflect more of real conversations between the final 4 and Nick. Phew. AIMHO

bleuberry wrote:

Maddy wrote:

Sean Lowe @SeanLowe09

Cat: "Nick is being distant."

Me: "Maybe he has diarrhea like I did on a date and just doesn't feel like talking."

#TheBachelor

Sean was kinda funny last night. Cat must've been helping him.

Luvstruck wrote:I thought it was interesting when he point blank asked D Lo what she wanted out of a relationship and her answer was love & trust. IMO, she was too vanilla for Nick in that moment like she had really not given it much thought. Then she asked him and he said adventure & rawness. What does he mean by rawness, honesty? IMO he needs someone who is lively/flirty and shows she is genuinely interested in him as a man, thus why Corinne is still around!!! We got too see him with Rachel trying to convince her to not back away but why no conversations with Raven so viewers would know why she got the group date rose? And again no conversation with Vanessa? Keeping the final 2 hidden? Where's the love story???It must have been after this fiasco week CH had his Talk with Nick about being more than a host/observer and explore the possible relationships with the women left.

atem wrote:And Corrine isn't fake?  Ok.  LOL

Luvstruck wrote:I thought it was interesting when he point blank asked D Lo what she wanted out of a relationship and her answer was love & trust. IMO, she was too vanilla for Nick in that moment like she had really not given it much thought. Then she asked him and he said adventure & rawness. What does he mean by rawness, honesty? IMO he needs someone who is lively/flirty and shows she is genuinely interested in him as a man, thus why Corinne is still around!!! We got too see him with Rachel trying to convince her to not back away but why no conversations with Raven so viewers would know why she got the group date rose? And again no conversation with Vanessa? Keeping the final 2 hidden? Where's the love story???It must have been after this fiasco week CH had his Talk with Nick about being more than a host/observer and explore the possible relationships with the women left.

atem wrote:And Corrine isn't fake?  Ok.  LOL