Ben and Lauren Happily Ever After - Discussion - *Sleuthing - Spoilers*

bluwavz wrote:I definitely don't think there's anything wrong with it. It's a job I desperately need and want and good for anyone who has the opportunity to do it and take advantage of it. I even practiced this morning putting my deodorant on. Gotta hone my skills.  

sosleepy wrote:To be fair... where has Ben said he's above it? Right after the Bachelor he said he wasn't above doing adds as long as it was a product he actually used or believed in, so not the tooth whitening was his direct quote. Since then he's said nothing more on the subject, so maybe he's loosened up a bit on his stance (which left room open for adds to begin with.)

Since then he's done this show, and he's clearly not above the shill. It was my impression that Secret paid for the renovation. Not sure what's so wrong with that. Eh. Overall Ben and Lauren's shills are still a lot more subtle to me than most of these people. Minus the show. Lauren's blog does advertise a lot of products, but that's just a duh since she's trying to make an income off of it.

bluwavz wrote:I definitely don't think there's anything wrong with it. It's a job I desperately need and want and good for anyone who has the opportunity to do it and take advantage of it. I even practiced this morning putting my deodorant on. Gotta hone my skills.  

Lennoxcolinrolland wrote:

sosleepy wrote:To be fair... where has Ben said he's above it? Right after the Bachelor he said he wasn't above doing adds as long as it was a product he actually used or believed in, so not the tooth whitening was his direct quote. Since then he's said nothing more on the subject, so maybe he's loosened up a bit on his stance (which left room open for adds to begin with.)

Since then he's done this show, and he's clearly not above the shill. It was my impression that Secret paid for the renovation. Not sure what's so wrong with that. Eh. Overall Ben and Lauren's shills are still a lot more subtle to me than most of these people. Minus the show. Lauren's blog does advertise a lot of products, but that's just a duh since she's trying to make an income off of it.

He's implied it and subtly shaded others who did/do it. So no, he hasn't been straight forward about it. But I DO think Benlo are on the same level as the others, because they did the show, assumingly solely for the financial aspects it would bring, not really caring that it was all gonna be fake or that they would have to act and "trick" all these people into believing one thing, when it was the complete opposite, etc. etc.

IMO.

Alanna wrote:

Lennoxcolinrolland wrote:

sosleepy wrote:To be fair... where has Ben said he's above it? Right after the Bachelor he said he wasn't above doing adds as long as it was a product he actually used or believed in, so not the tooth whitening was his direct quote. Since then he's said nothing more on the subject, so maybe he's loosened up a bit on his stance (which left room open for adds to begin with.)

Since then he's done this show, and he's clearly not above the shill. It was my impression that Secret paid for the renovation. Not sure what's so wrong with that. Eh. Overall Ben and Lauren's shills are still a lot more subtle to me than most of these people. Minus the show. Lauren's blog does advertise a lot of products, but that's just a duh since she's trying to make an income off of it.

He's implied it and subtly shaded others who did/do it. So no, he hasn't been straight forward about it. But I DO think Benlo are on the same level as the others, because they did the show, assumingly solely for the financial aspects it would bring, not really caring that it was all gonna be fake or that they would have to act and "trick" all these people into believing one thing, when it was the complete opposite, etc. etc.

IMO.

Exactly. These two act soooo above everyone else, just the classiest, when they're literally the biggest shillers of the franchise IMO. Just own who you are IMO.

Lennoxcolinrolland wrote:

Alanna wrote:

Lennoxcolinrolland wrote:
He's implied it and subtly shaded others who did/do it. So no, he hasn't been straight forward about it. But I DO think Benlo are on the same level as the others, because they did the show, assumingly solely for the financial aspects it would bring, not really caring that it was all gonna be fake or that they would have to act and "trick" all these people into believing one thing, when it was the complete opposite, etc. etc.

IMO.

Exactly. These two act soooo above everyone else, just the classiest, when they're literally the biggest shillers of the franchise IMO. Just own who you are IMO.

I think they're on par with all the other shillers, because it's reallyyyyy hard for anyone to take the cake on that one IMO.

Lennoxcolinrolland wrote:

sosleepy wrote:To be fair... where has Ben said he's above it? Right after the Bachelor he said he wasn't above doing adds as long as it was a product he actually used or believed in, so not the tooth whitening was his direct quote. Since then he's said nothing more on the subject, so maybe he's loosened up a bit on his stance (which left room open for adds to begin with.)

Since then he's done this show, and he's clearly not above the shill. It was my impression that Secret paid for the renovation. Not sure what's so wrong with that. Eh. Overall Ben and Lauren's shills are still a lot more subtle to me than most of these people. Minus the show. Lauren's blog does advertise a lot of products, but that's just a duh since she's trying to make an income off of it.

He's implied it and subtly shaded others who did/do it. So no, he hasn't been straight forward about it. But I DO think Benlo are on the same level as the others, because they did the show, assumingly solely for the financial aspects it would bring, not really caring that it was all gonna be fake or that they would have to act and "trick" all these people into believing one thing, when it was the complete opposite, etc. etc.

IMO.

Alanna wrote:

Lennoxcolinrolland wrote:

Alanna wrote:
Exactly. These two act soooo above everyone else, just the classiest, when they're literally the biggest shillers of the franchise IMO. Just own who you are IMO.

I think they're on par with all the other shillers, because it's reallyyyyy hard for anyone to take the cake on that one IMO.

IMO a reality show dedicated to your relationship where you fake a therapy session and fake calling off a wedding take the cake.

Alanna wrote:

Lennoxcolinrolland wrote:

sosleepy wrote:To be fair... where has Ben said he's above it? Right after the Bachelor he said he wasn't above doing adds as long as it was a product he actually used or believed in, so not the tooth whitening was his direct quote. Since then he's said nothing more on the subject, so maybe he's loosened up a bit on his stance (which left room open for adds to begin with.)

Since then he's done this show, and he's clearly not above the shill. It was my impression that Secret paid for the renovation. Not sure what's so wrong with that. Eh. Overall Ben and Lauren's shills are still a lot more subtle to me than most of these people. Minus the show. Lauren's blog does advertise a lot of products, but that's just a duh since she's trying to make an income off of it.

He's implied it and subtly shaded others who did/do it. So no, he hasn't been straight forward about it. But I DO think Benlo are on the same level as the others, because they did the show, assumingly solely for the financial aspects it would bring, not really caring that it was all gonna be fake or that they would have to act and "trick" all these people into believing one thing, when it was the complete opposite, etc. etc.

IMO.

Exactly. These two act soooo above everyone else, just the classiest, when they're literally the biggest shillers of the franchise IMO. Just own who you are IMO.

sosleepy wrote:

Lennoxcolinrolland wrote:

sosleepy wrote:To be fair... where has Ben said he's above it? Right after the Bachelor he said he wasn't above doing adds as long as it was a product he actually used or believed in, so not the tooth whitening was his direct quote. Since then he's said nothing more on the subject, so maybe he's loosened up a bit on his stance (which left room open for adds to begin with.)

Since then he's done this show, and he's clearly not above the shill. It was my impression that Secret paid for the renovation. Not sure what's so wrong with that. Eh. Overall Ben and Lauren's shills are still a lot more subtle to me than most of these people. Minus the show. Lauren's blog does advertise a lot of products, but that's just a duh since she's trying to make an income off of it.

He's implied it and subtly shaded others who did/do it. So no, he hasn't been straight forward about it. But I DO think Benlo are on the same level as the others, because they did the show, assumingly solely for the financial aspects it would bring, not really caring that it was all gonna be fake or that they would have to act and "trick" all these people into believing one thing, when it was the complete opposite, etc. etc.

IMO.

Genuine question. Where exactly has he subtly shaded others or acted above it? Outside of the one interview I sited. I follow them pretty closely and don't recall a single example of Ben shading others for shilling. Please, genuine inquirey. Point out to me and prove me wrong.

Yeah, I think BenLo are on the same level as everyone else too. I'm not arguing with that one. You don't need to convince me there.

sosleepy wrote:

Alanna wrote:

Lennoxcolinrolland wrote:
He's implied it and subtly shaded others who did/do it. So no, he hasn't been straight forward about it. But I DO think Benlo are on the same level as the others, because they did the show, assumingly solely for the financial aspects it would bring, not really caring that it was all gonna be fake or that they would have to act and "trick" all these people into believing one thing, when it was the complete opposite, etc. etc.

IMO.

Exactly. These two act soooo above everyone else, just the classiest, when they're literally the biggest shillers of the franchise IMO. Just own who you are IMO.

Again. Examples of where they act like they are above everyone else appreciated. I've seen no evidence of this.

Lennoxcolinrolland wrote:

sosleepy wrote:

Lennoxcolinrolland wrote:
He's implied it and subtly shaded others who did/do it. So no, he hasn't been straight forward about it. But I DO think Benlo are on the same level as the others, because they did the show, assumingly solely for the financial aspects it would bring, not really caring that it was all gonna be fake or that they would have to act and "trick" all these people into believing one thing, when it was the complete opposite, etc. etc.

IMO.

Genuine question. Where exactly has he subtly shaded others or acted above it? Outside of the one interview I sited. I follow them pretty closely and don't recall a single example of Ben shading others for shilling. Please, genuine inquirey. Point out to me and prove me wrong.

Yeah, I think BenLo are on the same level as everyone else too. I'm not arguing with that one. You don't need to convince me there.

In a few interviews that I have heard, specifically radio interviews, he's subtly shaded things/others, that's where his passive aggressive sides can come out at times. IMO. I don't recall which interviews, as all the radio interviews jumble together. But I remember listening to one on either 100.7 or 94.9 (I forget which one because they both play the same top 40), he said something along the lines of: the teeth whitening adds were being used by bachelor people, because that's what their job was, but that he had a job in software so he wouldn't be doing that anytime soon. And then ofcourse he laughed, but joking or not, that was shady IMO.