Bachelor 21 - Nick Viall - Media SM Vids - Discussion - *Sleuthing Spoilers*

Kashathediva wrote:Oy. Perhaps it would be better not to speculate on someone's ethnicity without knowing.

Thank you. I was thinking the same thing.

I'm Hispanic and my sister in law is Peruvian. I was just making an observation because she was referred to as Asian, but in my opinion she looks more Hispanic than Asian. I could be wrong of course.

I get it. I am jewish, but it would not be right to comment on someone's looks being a certain way due to my speculation and frame of reference. It would be best to deal with fact vs opinion.

kimberlyg wrote:Jasmine is 29, so that's one late-20's at least.  And age can be tough to tell from far-away stills.

True. Plus some might just be blessed with wonderful genes. My best friend is almost 36 and could pass for 24/25. You just never know. Nick himself IMO looks more late 20s than mid thirties.

Beagle wrote:I'm Hispanic  and my sister in law is Peruvian. I was just making an observation because she was referred to as Asian, but in my opinion she looks more Hispanic than Asian. I could be wrong of course.

I agree that she looks more Hispanic than Asian, but could go either way really. I also fail to see what's wrong with speculating. If someone's insulted by being assumed a certain ethnicity then it says more about them than the people speculating IMO.

This IMO has nothing to do with being insulted by being associated with an ethnicity, but being insulted for being assumed an ethnicity.
I prefer to deal with facts vs. what I presume a culture/race/ethnicity/religion is. IMO this is labeling.

Ethnicity - For sleuthing purposes, as it with all sleuthing, facts must be proven when stating someone's ethnicity. If it is being speculated, then IMO must be utilized, or it should be worded that it's the posters opinion the contestant appears to be of a certain ethnic background.
RULES

Whenever there is Religion Politics or Race mentioned, it usually results in members being insulted. We've been down that road with Caila and others.

Please read the rules. If it is your opinion a contestant appears to be of a certain background, then IMO or I think or similar should be used.

For example, there are posts referring to the Asian girl without IMo being used. None of them look Asian to me, so I'm looking for proof. Or someone is definitely Russian. How do we definitely know that? If it's definite it can't be your opinion.

IA with @Kashathediva where some will/may be insulted being referred to as a specific ethnic background, when they may not be at all. We have many diverse members here. Our only objective when dealing with Politics Religion or Race is to prevent anyone from being insulted in any manner. Please ensure posts include source when stating facts, or use the proper wording when speculating.

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I wonder if this was already posted before.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-3797160/New-Bachelor-Nick-Viall-seen-sporty-teen-yearbook-photos-high-school-voted-obnoxious.html

"The reality star graduated in 1999 and was voted Most Obnoxious and Biggest Tightwad, and came in second place for Most Flirtatious."

Interesting...

ETA: I love Nick of BSB, him and Britney Spears He is aging gracefully and he looks divine in DWTS.

Is there F1 or F2's in the past who were in silly group dates. I always think the chosen ones (F1's esp) are never put in groups that are going to be in awkward group dates. I don't know if I'm the only who thinks this . (This is why I thought no one in the BSB date is going to be engaged with Nick.) and whoa some of the girls can't dance :cringe:

We are on the same wavelength @charriotoffire, about loving Nick at the BSB.  If he is a tightward who cares it is good in this day and age to save, more people should be doing that, I would rather be with someone who is a tight ward as long as I get he necesities of life and money for later on in life(re-investments), than be with a spendrift.  Obnoxious I dont see it and flirtatious far from it, I see Nick as someone who is shy and a bit awkward.

charriotoffire wrote:I wonder if this was already posted before.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-3797160/New-Bachelor-Nick-Viall-seen-sporty-teen-yearbook-photos-high-school-voted-obnoxious.html

"The reality star graduated in 1999 and was voted Most Obnoxious and Biggest Tightwad, and came in second place for Most Flirtatious."

Interesting...

ETA:   I love Nick of BSB, him and Britney Spears   He is aging gracefully and he looks divine in DWTS.  

Is there F1 or F2's in the past who were in silly group dates.  I always think the chosen ones (F1's esp) are never put in groups that are going to be in awkward group dates.   I don't know if I'm the only who thinks this .  (This is why I thought no one in the BSB date is going to be engaged with Nick.)  and whoa some of the girls can't dance :cringe:

I don't think there is an immunity to awkward dates . Josh went on the similar Boyz to Men group date on Andi's season, Shawn was on that sumo/diaperish wearing date on Kaitlyn's season and IMO those both would fall into potential awkward date categories. Jordan had to do the embarrassing sex story date so from what I see I don't think the F1/F2 are immuned to awkward setting type dates. Not saying I think the one is in the BSB group but just can't discount it based on level of awkward.

Come to think of it, most of the group dates put the contestants into awkward situations IMO so I think it would be hard for even the top choice contestants to avoid.

^ Is there a similarity with that for the bachelor final 1's though?