Bachelorette Australia - Georgia Love - Season 2 - Screencaps - Discussion - *Sleuthing - Spoilers*

LovingLove wrote:We have heard a lot about Lee's back story, a magazine article about being bullied and lots of stuff about him feeling insecure. Makes me wonder why we haven't heard much at all about Matty's. His parents split when he was young and he was virtually raised by his mum and sister, yet apart from his dad not being at his HTD and him talking a lot about how close he is to his sister this whole backstory has been ignored. HTD would have been the perfect opportunity to explain it - but instead they just gave his sister the super possessive edit and left it at that. Silly, because now she's getting SM backlash and their relationship hasn't been properly explained.

And if Matty was F1 wouldn't his backstory be talked about more - especially as it's one of the reasons he is so romantic... He said in OK mag that he wants to be the kind of husband his mum never had.

Just another thing leaning towards Lee as F1 IMO

In relation to who would 'bounce back' faster... Just because Matty's younger than Lee I don't think he'll be bouncing back fast from this. I believe he's genuinely falling in love, and their time in Singapore looks amazingly romantic. He seems like the kind of guy who wears his heart on his sleeve, and that can actually make it harder to bounce back because he's admitted his feelings to himself for longer. If she breaks his heart at F2 I think he'll take just as long as Lee would to recover. Personally I don't think anyone deserves to go at F2, and I think it will be heartbreaking for whoever it is. She might not want to hurt anyone, or lead anyone on... but that's the show... and it's going to be a Kleenex kind of night!

LovingLove wrote:We have heard a lot about Lee's back story, a magazine article about being bullied and lots of stuff about him feeling insecure. Makes me wonder why we haven't heard much at all about Matty's. His parents split when he was young and he was virtually raised by his mum and sister, yet apart from his dad not being at his HTD and him talking a lot about how close he is to his sister this whole backstory has been ignored. HTD would have been the perfect opportunity to explain it - but instead they just gave his sister the super possessive edit and left it at that. Silly, because now she's getting SM backlash and their relationship hasn't been properly explained.

And if Matty was F1 wouldn't his backstory be talked about more - especially as it's one of the reasons he is so romantic... He said in OK mag that he wants to be the kind of husband his mum never had.

Just another thing leaning towards Lee as F1 IMO

In relation to who would 'bounce back' faster... Just because Matty's younger than Lee I don't think he'll be bouncing back fast from this. I believe he's genuinely falling in love, and their time in Singapore looks amazingly romantic. He seems like the kind of guy who wears his heart on his sleeve, and that can actually make it harder to bounce back because he's admitted his feelings to himself for longer. If she breaks his heart at F2 I think he'll take just as long as Lee would to recover. Personally I don't think anyone deserves to go at F2, and I think it will be heartbreaking for whoever it is. She might not want to hurt anyone, or lead anyone on... but that's the show... and it's going to be a Kleenex kind of night!

nylonvagabond wrote:I don't pay attention to length of episodes usually, but each episode other than the first and the HTD have been 50 mins (I'm just going by my memory) Was Richies season this short?

LovingLove wrote:

brownravens wrote:I honestly reckon smooth is Matty because that's an established part of his narrative at the moment.
But I've also heard from a number of my mates in Melbourne (that go to Emerson and similar) that Lee is quite the player - not that it makes him a bad guy or anything but defs gets the loving from the ladies...

I live in Melbourne and I've heard similar. As soon as his promo stuff started prior to the show I was hearing from people who knew him or knew of him. He's well and truly linked to the Melb social scene here - the Bartels, etc, and from what I've heard he definitely didn't need the show to find a girl. and as you say, that doesn't make him bad or less deserving... it just is what it is. TBH I can't imagine many of the top 10 would need the show. They're all beautiful.

I think the fact that GL's sister and friend on Insta have only commented on photos of GL & MJ means she probably thought Lee was smooth.

mercieme wrote:

LovingLove wrote:We have heard a lot about Lee's back story, a magazine article about being bullied and lots of stuff about him feeling insecure. Makes me wonder why we haven't heard much at all about Matty's. His parents split when he was young and he was virtually raised by his mum and sister, yet apart from his dad not being at his HTD and him talking a lot about how close he is to his sister this whole backstory has been ignored. HTD would have been the perfect opportunity to explain it - but instead they just gave his sister the super possessive edit and left it at that. Silly, because now she's getting SM backlash and their relationship hasn't been properly explained.

And if Matty was F1 wouldn't his backstory be talked about more - especially as it's one of the reasons he is so romantic... He said in OK mag that he wants to be the kind of husband his mum never had.

Just another thing leaning towards Lee as F1 IMO

In relation to who would 'bounce back' faster... Just because Matty's younger than Lee I don't think he'll be bouncing back fast from this. I believe he's genuinely falling in love, and their time in Singapore looks amazingly romantic. He seems like the kind of guy who wears his heart on his sleeve, and that can actually make it harder to bounce back because he's admitted his feelings to himself for longer. If she breaks his heart at F2 I think he'll take just as long as Lee would to recover. Personally I don't think anyone deserves to go at F2, and I think it will be heartbreaking for whoever it is. She might not want to hurt anyone, or lead anyone on... but that's the show... and it's going to be a Kleenex kind of night!

Based on the edit, IMO none of the F3 guys have a backstory that was shown in their individual edits. And let's bear in mind that the viewers are mostly watching the show for clues and not what the mags are printing about the contestants. We sleuthers on the other hand are looking at everything. I am also sleuthing the Bette Canada and that has back stories of the top guys sprinkled all over....all jmo.

mercieme wrote:

nylonvagabond wrote:I don't pay attention to length of episodes usually, but each episode other than the first and the HTD have been 50 mins (I'm just going by my memory) Was Richies season this short?

That's the time without ad breaks, correct? It's the same time slot as Richie's so IMO it's the same length of time.

AllAboutLove wrote:

LovingLove wrote:

brownravens wrote:I honestly reckon smooth is Matty because that's an established part of his narrative at the moment.
But I've also heard from a number of my mates in Melbourne (that go to Emerson and similar) that Lee is quite the player - not that it makes him a bad guy or anything but defs gets the loving from the ladies...

I live in Melbourne and I've heard similar. As soon as his promo stuff started prior to the show I was hearing from people who knew him or knew of him. He's well and truly linked to the Melb social scene here - the Bartels, etc, and from what I've heard he definitely didn't need the show to find a girl. and as you say, that doesn't make him bad or less deserving... it just is what it is. TBH I can't imagine many of the top 10 would need the show. They're all beautiful.

I think the fact that GL's sister and friend on Insta have only commented on photos of GL & MJ means she probably thought Lee was smooth.

I've heard the total opposite and from people that know Lee that have said that he is a legend and the kindest and most gentle guy ever and that the negative stories are rubbish (direct quote from them).

There's also been zero girls coming out the woodwork with any negative stories at all so I highly doubt the rumors are true. Heck, even Sasha had is ex-fiancee going to the tabloids saying Sasha was a player and was only on the show for fame and using Sam. So I take rumors with a grain of salt.


I think all the guys on the show don't need the show to find a girl, especially Matty or Lee who both model so they have likely had lots of girls interested in them. That doesn't make either one a "player".

AllAboutLove wrote:

mercieme wrote:

nylonvagabond wrote:I don't pay attention to length of episodes usually, but each episode other than the first and the HTD have been 50 mins (I'm just going by my memory) Was Richies season this short?

That's the time without ad breaks, correct? It's the same time slot as Richie's so IMO it's the same length of time.

That's why I thought Lee would be F3.

As F2 it doesn't really fit for them to cast doubt at this point in the show since they try to make the F2 look like they could be F1 more. Who knows though, but I do think Lee could be F2 and get his heart broken. I suspect they may edit it any way they want (like Courtney said, they edited him to look crazy) so it could be their way to do that.

Fifty wrote:
I also think whom ever the comment about "being smooth" is about IMO it's regardin the  F1 as its there to create doubt for the Lead.  It wouldn't surprise me if it is Matty and not Lee only because it would fit in with Georgia saying she thought [Matty] was cocky when they first met, hence the continuation of storyline. Like Richie's mum brought up about Alex being a single mum was a continuation of her storyline. JMO

AllAboutLove wrote:

mercieme wrote:

nylonvagabond wrote:I don't pay attention to length of episodes usually, but each episode other than the first and the HTD have been 50 mins (I'm just going by my memory) Was Richies season this short?

That's the time without ad breaks, correct? It's the same time slot as Richie's so IMO it's the same length of time.

That's why I thought Lee would be F3.

As F2 it doesn't really fit for them to cast doubt at this point in the show since they try to make the F2 look like they could be F1 more. Who knows though, but I do think Lee could be F2 and get his heart broken. I suspect they may edit it any way they want (like Courtney said, they edited him to look crazy) so it could be their way to do that.