The Bachelorette - Season 12 - JoJo Fletcher - Epi 10 - July 26th - MTA - *Sleuthing - Spoilers*

Lennoxcolinrolland wrote:

chase4me wrote:Congratulations to Jojo. I supported her all along from Ben's season. But I can now finally accept why Ben is with Lauren I think. And I hope people will finally accept Bens choice. Lauren. On a final note, I think you can also judge a person based on the company they keep :cutesmile!:

But didn't you want JoJo for Luke only until after its been confirmed she DIDNT pick him..?

Jojo is not the same Jojo who wanted Ben. So my opinion of her is allowed to change too...? We can all agree that the rumored F1 is more in tune with Chad R than Chase or Luke... right? There is no upgrade here I think. We all want what is best for Jojo. Some of us were passionate because we saw her falling into the same pattern. Hence, at the end of the day, we can wish her well whiles stating the obvious.

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chase4me wrote:

Lennoxcolinrolland wrote:

chase4me wrote:Congratulations to Jojo. I supported her all along from Ben's season. But I can now finally accept why Ben is with Lauren I think. And I hope people will finally accept Bens choice. Lauren. On a final note, I think you can also judge a person based on the company they keep :cutesmile!:

But didn't you want JoJo for Luke only until after its been confirmed she DIDNT pick him..?

Jojo is not the same Jojo who wanted Ben. So my opinion of her is allowed to change too...?  We can all agree that the rumored F1 is more in tune with Chad R than Chase or Luke... right? There is no upgrade here I think. We all want what is best for Jojo. Some of us were passionate because we saw her falling into the same pattern.  Hence, at the end of the day, we can wish her well whiles stating the obvious.

JoJo IS JoJo. She's the same person that wanted Cam, Chad R, Ben, Jordan, and whoever else. There's no set rules to dating and love. Most of us want what's best for JoJo, but it's her decision and life at the end of the day. My whole spiel was that a lot of people were hoping, even when there was no proof at all IMO, that Luke and JoJo ended up together and thought that would be the best case scenario. And then whenever the possibility and realization that JoJo and Luke DIDNT end up together, he all of a sudden dodged a bullet and she's not the person people thought she was. It just makes no sense. How fast the switch flips. IMO.

All IMO.

My opinion is whatever we saw of JoJo and her relationship with Ben was storyboarded. I never saw anything but great like and respect, despite what either voiced in their "lines/script" to each other. Yes, even the ILY's. 
I will never believe that JoJo was doing anything besides auditioning role and allowing a fanbase to build for her own season of 'Ette. JMOAA 
There is nothing wrong with this. I felt the same way with Ben during his season on the 'Ette. I also felt the same way with Chris S on his season of 'Ette. I think it's done a lot. 
So, I think JoJo is the same JoJo. She is the one that dated Chad R. The one that dated Ben was tv JoJo. JMOAA

I hope Luke left her azz, so this can be turned back around. Then...what..? Hmm..?

I think if the situation had been reversed, had Ben been on JoJo's season, she would have bumped him easily for Jordan, just as he bumped JoJo for Lauren. They are different people, IMO. Good friends, got along well enough for filming, but not meant to be, in either case. They both have different types, IMO. It's all good. From what I see, I think JoJo and Jordan are 2 peas in a pod, just as Ben and Lauren are together in a different pod.

Kashathediva wrote:My opinion is whatever we saw of JoJo and her relationship with Ben was storyboarded. I never saw anything but great like and respect, despite what either voiced in their "lines/script" to each other. Yes, even the ILY's. 
I will never believe that JoJo was doing anything besides auditioning role and allowing a fanbase to build for her own season of 'Ette. JMOAA 
There is nothing wrong with this. I felt the same way with Ben during his season on the 'Ette. I also felt the same way with Chris S on his season of 'Ette. I think it's done a lot. 
So, I think JoJo is the same JoJo. She is the one that dated Chad R. The one that dated Ben was tv JoJo. JMOAA

I think they all do this. Very rarely do I think the leads actually liked their previous lead (at least enough to honestly love them after all the hoopla.) Very rarely. I can't even recall one where I didn't feel that way. IMO.

Kashathediva wrote:My opinion is whatever we saw of JoJo and her relationship with Ben was storyboarded. I never saw anything but great like and respect, despite what either voiced in their "lines/script" to each other. Yes, even the ILY's. 
I will never believe that JoJo was doing anything besides auditioning role and allowing a fanbase to build for her own season of 'Ette. JMOAA 
There is nothing wrong with this. I felt the same way with Ben during his season on the 'Ette. I also felt the same way with Chris S on his season of 'Ette. I think it's done a lot. 
So, I think JoJo is the same JoJo. She is the one that dated Chad R. The one that dated Ben was tv JoJo. JMOAA

Kasha,

Because I respect your opinion and know you have been sleuthing these shows a long time, may I ask?

Do you think Luke fell in love with her or REALLY fell for her at least because I know we haven't heard in use words ILY--just "my heart is yours" in clip? I think Luke fans just see one of the most genuine contestants they have ever seen in the franchise--and I think that even people who are not "fans" can see that he definitely isn't your typical contestant. IMO, I just do not see him "auditioning". Will he be an amazing Bachelor? Yes Did TPTB see that immediately and storyboard things accordingly? Absolutely, IMO However, IMO--I do not think that Luke was an active participant in that.

TIA for answering

sosleepy wrote:I think if the situation had been reversed, had Ben been on JoJo's season, she would have bumped him easily for Jordan, just as he bumped JoJo for Lauren. They are different people, IMO. Good friends, got along well enough for filming, but not meant to be, in either case. They both have different types, IMO. It's all good. From what I see, I think JoJo and Jordan are 2 peas in a pod, just as Ben and Lauren are together in a different pod.

The only pods I see are in personality and I've said this from the get go. Lauren and Ben are the female and male version of each other. And JoJo and Jordan are the female and male version of each other. (Or something like that )

IMO.

^^Yes, IA. I never saw a real connection between her and Ben. She knew the game and knew how to play it. Nothing wrong with that at all IMO. They've all had a part to play at one point. Just like so many of the girls from Ben's season have said that they knew Lauren was the one early on, I'm sure JoJo did too. Bottom line, there still had to be a final 2 girl. This season has just allowed the viewers to see what type of guy JoJo is interested and I think that has been shell shocking to some. And it has ultimately confirmed that Ben and JoJo were not compatible. All JMO of course.

I'm not Kasha, but in my opinion, none of them fall in love with the lead. After filming they are all happy go lucky. They fall into an unreality trap. We have heard from many former contestants on how they feel on the show and later they know that a proposal was the last thing they wanted to do.

Also IMO JoJo is the same as she always was. There's no difference. She was on Ben's season doing her best to get the next lead spot.