Bachelor Australia - Season 4 - Richie Strahan - F1-F6 - *Sleuthing - Spoilers*

natik wrote:

in_denial wrote:So I have been reading in one of the other threads that Nikki is most likely F4...however, I wonder if this is actually the case. There has been no doubt introduced yet, like it was with Heather in Sam's Wood (who was F4). With only two weeks to go, surely there would be an indication by now that things aren't all rosy (yes pun intended!) between Richie and Nikki? There was doubt with Heather well before HTD's, from memory. JMO.

It´s only my personal view but I don`t saw the Heather edit as doubt. I saw it more like their relationship didn`t went beyond the friend zone thing. There was no development they got stuck. As for Richie in Sam F. season it went all down after his "joke" date. IMO

Yes, by doubt I just meant there is nothing obvious right now that things aren't all good between Nikki and Richie - the average viewer would be left stunned if this was to occur as there is no hint at this point in time. At least with Heather, there was the idea planted in the edit that she could be friend zoned.

in_denial wrote:

natik wrote:

in_denial wrote:So I have been reading in one of the other threads that Nikki is most likely F4...however, I wonder if this is actually the case. There has been no doubt introduced yet, like it was with Heather in Sam's Wood (who was F4). With only two weeks to go, surely there would be an indication by now that things aren't all rosy (yes pun intended!) between Richie and Nikki? There was doubt with Heather well before HTD's, from memory. JMO.

It´s only my personal view but I don`t saw the Heather edit as doubt. I saw it more like their relationship didn`t went beyond the friend zone thing. There was no development they got stuck. As for Richie in Sam F. season it went all down after his "joke" date. IMO

Yes, by doubt I just meant there is nothing obvious right now that things aren't all good between Nikki and Richie - the average viewer would be left stunned if this was to occur as there is no hint at this point in time. At least with Heather, there was the idea planted in the edit that she could be friend zoned.

We have two more episodes to go so who knows what is going to happen till then. For example for Richie it was everything good after his single date with Sam. It went down basically after his HTD.

I think with Richie though it wasn't edited as he had done anything wrong, as such - it was obvious to many viewers that Sasha was Sam's pick from early on. From memory, didn't Richie get his date quite late? He just wasn't able to catch up in Sam's heart as she had already fallen for Sasha? This is obviously not the case for Nikki and Richie, who shared the first date, then had another where there feelings appeared to grow IMO.

Can't wait to see the HTD's though!

natik wrote:

in_denial wrote:

natik wrote:

It´s only my personal view but I don`t saw the Heather edit as doubt. I saw it more like their relationship didn`t went beyond the friend zone thing. There was no development they got stuck. As for Richie in Sam F. season it went all down after his "joke" date. IMO

Yes, by doubt I just meant there is nothing obvious right now that things aren't all good between Nikki and Richie - the average viewer would be left stunned if this was to occur as there is no hint at this point in time. At least with Heather, there was the idea planted in the edit that she could be friend zoned.

We have two more episodes to go so who knows what is going to happen till then. For example for Richie it was everything good after his single date with Sam. It went down basically after his HTD.

Great conversation guys!


For me - during Sam's season I had my rose coloured glasses well and truly perched on my nose and I thought how could Sam not love Heather like I love her - I thought she was just that fabulous. I just couldn't see that he had friend zoned her, and that it was actually very clear in the edit, until after he let her go.

But with Nikki - my rose coloured glasses are safely tucked away in my nightstand as I love all the F5 equally - I just don't see the edit that would make him not take her to F2. In a way, her edit reminds me a little of Lauren B and Matilda. I just don't see how he could let her go before F3 after he said all those lovely things to her during the second date. UNLESS - something happens at HTD to really shake things up.

Katiebelle wrote:

natik wrote:

in_denial wrote:

Yes, by doubt I just meant there is nothing obvious right now that things aren't all good between Nikki and Richie - the average viewer would be left stunned if this was to occur as there is no hint at this point in time. At least with Heather, there was the idea planted in the edit that she could be friend zoned.

We have two more episodes to go so who knows what is going to happen till then. For example for Richie it was everything good after his single date with Sam. It went down basically after his HTD.

Great conversation guys!  


For me - during Sam's season I had my rose coloured glasses well and truly perched on my nose and I thought how could Sam not love Heather like I love her - I thought she was just that fabulous. I just couldn't see that he had friend zoned her, and that it was actually very clear in the edit, until after he let her go.

But with Nikki - my rose coloured glasses are safely tucked away in my nightstand as I love all the F5 equally - I just don't see the edit that would make him not take her to F2. In a way, her edit reminds me a little of Lauren B and Matilda. I just don't see how he could let her go before F3 after he said all those lovely things to her during the second date.  UNLESS - something happens at HTD to really shake things up.

You weren't the only one that had rose-coloured glasses re: Heather! This time, like you, I am more wary and objective.

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] But doesn`t he saying to all of them nice things. I actually don`t pay attention to words because all the Bachelor`s are saying basically empty phrases. I mean I remember what Sam W. said to Lana especially during their final date. He couldn`t stop gushing about their future together. The Ukrainian Bachelor this season talked for example with his F2 in the finale about having kids and how many. And they wrote some kind of letter of their future and put it in a bottle and threw it into the water.
The most important thing for me is body language. And Richie`s body language is telling me that he is not so much into Nikki like she is into him. He is too passive with her. It´s always on her to initiate intimate moments. IMO

natik wrote:[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] But doesn`t he saying to all of them nice things. I actually don`t pay attention to words because all the Bachelor`s are saying basically empty phrases. I mean I remember what Sam W. said to Lana especially during their final date. He couldn`t stop gushing about their future together. The Ukrainian Bachelor this season talked for example with his F2 in the finale about having kids and how many. And they wrote some kind of letter of their future and put it in a bottle and threw it into the water. The most important thing for me is body language. And Richie`s body language is telling me that he is not so much into Nikki like she is into him. IMO

I discussed this while watching the episode in real time and I thought his body language towards her was good - relaxed but intimate.

This is a perfect example of why I enjoy this forum so much - we all have different points of view but can come together for a common passion.

Love ya but don't agree with ya!

Katiebelle wrote:

This is a perfect example of why I enjoy this forum so much - we all have different points of view but can come together for a common passion.

  Love ya but don't agree with ya!  

That`s ok. You don`t have to.

Katiebelle wrote:

natik wrote:[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] But doesn`t he saying to all of them nice things. I actually don`t pay attention to words because all the Bachelor`s are saying basically empty phrases. I mean I remember what Sam W. said to Lana especially during their final date. He couldn`t stop gushing about their future together. The Ukrainian Bachelor this season talked for example with his F2 in the finale about having kids and how many. And they wrote some kind of letter of their future and put it in a bottle and threw it into the water. The most important thing for me is body language. And Richie`s body language is telling me that he is not so much into Nikki like she is into him. IMO

I discussed this while watching the episode in real time and I thought his body language towards her was good - relaxed but intimate.

This is a perfect example of why I enjoy this forum so much - we all have different points of view but can come together for a common passion.

  Love ya but don't agree with ya!  

It's interesting how we all have different views - that's why I really enjoy this forum. I actually rewatched the date with Richie and Nikki last night - I was beginning to doubt what I was seeing with Richie and Nikki...I have to agree with you Katiebelle - I still saw a lovely, intimate moment between them. I was watching body language and IMO, he is into Nikki in a big way.

IMO it's really down to Nikki and Olena. I believe Richie is really into Alex as much as I love her, the edit for her is not portraying a F1. If she never had that edit.., she would have a shot. And as for Rachel, I do not see th chemistry between them at all. They are both alphas and two alphas together... I don't see it working out. If she makes it to F3 I see her only making it through due to the fact that she is the least likely one to be affected. 

As for Nikki, Richie seems like he really does like her. Not sure about "love" but there is chemistry between the two but I don't think it is going to be lasting. They seem too much alike. Also, she is always initiating and with their love story, she is like the narrator (like one of you guys said before) therefore if she does make F1 Im not sure if they would even last. She seems more into him then he is with her. 


As for Olena, I see where the producers are doing. When Richie is with Olena theres sonething different as compared to when he is with the other girls. Observing Richie every time he seems Olena it's as if she is the one. I see the love story between the two. He wants to be the guy that she can fall in love with. It's like he wants to protect her, care for her and love her. He is so interested in all of her layers. IMO Richie is inlove with Olena. When Richie said To her "I think about you all the time" solidified this. And my "heart skips a beat everytime I talk/see her". This is the words of someone who is inlove IMO. Their relationship is deep. It's very deep. On their first date, he "personally" went to the mansion and picked her up. They spoke about the future already and their values in life. 

I don't know if it's just me but I can't see the chemistry with Nikki as much as Richie's connection with Olena. It's something different. Almost unexplainable. IMO if Olena is the one, I would not be shocked IMO there is a long lasting relationship there and I can't wait to see how it unfolds in the next few episodes leading to the final rose!

in_denial wrote:I think with Richie though it wasn't edited as he had done anything wrong, as such - it was obvious to many viewers that Sasha was Sam's pick from early on. From memory, didn't Richie get his date quite late? He just wasn't able to catch up in Sam's heart as she had already fallen for Sasha? This is obviously not the case for Nikki and Richie, who shared the first date, then had another where there feelings appeared to grow IMO.

Can't wait to see the HTD's though!

*EDIT* he could barely touch her when they kissed.  His hands were moving like he was looking for somewhere to place then so long as it was not on any part of Nikki *IMO*!

in_denial wrote:

Katiebelle wrote:

natik wrote:[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] But doesn`t he saying to all of them nice things. I actually don`t pay attention to words because all the Bachelor`s are saying basically empty phrases. I mean I remember what Sam W. said to Lana especially during their final date. He couldn`t stop gushing about their future together. The Ukrainian Bachelor this season talked for example with his F2 in the finale about having kids and how many. And they wrote some kind of letter of their future and put it in a bottle and threw it into the water. The most important thing for me is body language. And Richie`s body language is telling me that he is not so much into Nikki like she is into him. IMO

I discussed this while watching the episode in real time and I thought his body language towards her was good - relaxed but intimate.

This is a perfect example of why I enjoy this forum so much - we all have different points of view but can come together for a common passion.

  Love ya but don't agree with ya!  

It's interesting how we all have different views - that's why I really enjoy this forum. I actually rewatched the date with Richie and Nikki last night - I was beginning to doubt what I was seeing with Richie and Nikki...I have to agree with you Katiebelle - I still saw a lovely, intimate moment between them. I was watching body language and IMO, he is into Nikki in a big way.

I just watched Nikki and Richie's last SD and OMG, I melted again. There's definitely something going on there. He says a lot of lovely things about her as well as to her in a really tender, genuine way. Plus he seems to be so happy and relaxed with her. That's how I see it.