Bachelor Australia - Season 4 - Richie Strahan - F1-F6 - *Sleuthing - Spoilers*

Idlemess wrote:

Living wrote:

LeapofFaith wrote:

If Alex is f2 could explain her clingy crazy person edit as girls in exit interviews have said she didn't seem to cry that much jmo

My thoughts are Olena F1, Alex F2, F3/F4 between Nikki and Faith,  both endearing.

The F2 is usually the woman the bach shares the most passionate, sexy kisses with.  The woman who is most physical with the bach and the one who from editing, has the most physical chemistry with the bach.

The F3 is the one who after editing is made out to be the darling girl next door, the fan fave, the one who most people want to win.

F4 usually has something outrageous happen during htd.
imo.

Well then you might have your pick of the litter. Richie's been kissy faced with the whole lot

What a job responsibility that is! Kiss as many women as possible, and as often as possible. We tptb, would take care of the edit and direct the fans according, to the angle we want them to take and the impressions we want them to have.

Living wrote:

BedHead wrote:

AllAboutLove wrote:Just FYI: many of the members sleuthing are from Australia or live there or are from countries outside of the US (myself included).

Yes, I know that, but the person I replied to lives in NY

Thanks for the background info on Olena [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.].  Understanding the Australian way is pertinent to this sleuthing.  You see many people have commented on the difference in Olena's culture and how her family would feel during htd due to the culture difference.  Also some commenting on how Nikki is more suited to Richie because Olena has a different culture etc.

Being  far off in good ole' England, I appreciate the clarification.

You are welcome, Living. I know some people appreciate that information. It is indeed pertinent, especially when only last season the winner of the show come from a non-Anglo Saxon ancestry. Australia is very diverse, and some cities are not typicall Anglo-Saxon, or Anglo-Celtic. For instance, Melbourne (which is were Sam Wood lives, and now Snezana moved there)  has the second largest Greek population of the world, the only city with more Greek population than Melbourne is Athens. I do, therefore, think it is important for people to understand what has or has not a significant impact on a relationship.

Also, one thing that may be good to note. Richie  lives in a suburb of Perth, and Perth is a capital city. As you know, Olena lives in Sydney, another capital city. Both Richie and Olena are used to the lifestyle enjoyed in metropolitan cities. Both Perth and Sydney are also very multicultural cities. Nikki, however, lives in Northam, which is not really in Perth, although it is very close to Perth (1.5 hours from Perth). Northam has less than 7,000 inhabitants and I wouldn't call Northam multicultural. Obviously, Nikki seems to enjoy the lifestyle of a small town, but that lifestyle is not the same style that people in Perth enjoy.  Now, what we know is that Richie lives in Perth, Richie   is adventurous and likes having many options and has started a modelling career. Basically, based on lifestyles, I can infer that Olena and Richie have more in common than Richie and Nikki. Actually, in terms of lifestyle, perhaps Raechel is more similar to Richie than the other two girls. This is my opinion.

Idlemess wrote:Out of the F5 Rachel has been pretty much screaming on SM look at me.

The edit has shown Ritchie coming to take Rachel for a chat a number of times during the cp. Are we meant to make something out of THAT? I wonder what signs is she giving to try to draw attention to herslef. Is it because she wants to be famous? If she really is the F1, then she should surely be able to wait for it to come out. Why the look at me right now attitude?

Questions I do not have answers to, but makes me wonder.

Living wrote:

BedHead wrote:

AllAboutLove wrote:Just FYI: many of the members sleuthing are from Australia or live there or are from countries outside of the US (myself included).

Yes, I know that, but the person I replied to lives in NY

Thanks for the background info on Olena [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.].  Understanding the Australian way is pertinent to this sleuthing.  You see many people have commented on the difference in Olena's culture and how her family would feel during htd due to the culture difference.  Also some commenting on how Nikki is more suited to Richie because Olena has a different culture etc.

Being  far off in good ole' England, I appreciate the clarification.

I do as well [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] thanks for the info. I've been reading the comments on FB and suitability is often raised on the page so I've wondered if Olena's culture (might shed some light on her ethics solely based on the edited version of her on the show) and maybe how open the family is with dating and marriage. Obviously no different than others but I'm curious. 
Also, since episode 10 ?!? it's like the girls just discovered that Olena's from the Ukraine. Now she's labeled as this and that so it peaked my curiosity more as its attempting to 'explain her personality' which I haven't taken lightly. So what's the deal? Is it done to add more fuel to her mystery, to say that she's a hard nut to crack, (she's light a vault, a rock, etc) so good luck Richie with this one?

natik wrote:

Chi wrote:I'm pretty sure that Alex is the one who jumped from the boat with Richie.

IMO Olena and Alex will definitely be in Bali... the 3rd girl based from other sleuthers is prolly Rachel.

F4- Nikki
F5- Faith

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I can't wait to see if my predictions are true.  [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]

IA and I´m going with you.

F5-Faith
F4-Nikki
F3-Alex
F2-Rachael
F1-Olena

I think what they are going to do now is building up the "connection" with Rachael after Nikki`s exit to make the viewers think that she has a chance. But it´s only clever editing and not more.

It reminds me of season one Tim Robbard. Rochelle was used to cast doubt on Anna, who was similar to Olena in many ways. She did not have serious boyfriend, had her wall up, she did not open up until the very end. Rochelle who was the F2 was used to cast the doubt about Anna not opening up, therefore Tim would chose her instead.

But listening from Rochelle after the show, she was actually persuaded by the crew member to be more open because Tim actually like her. She believed them and really went all out to win Tim's heart. In the end he chose Anna.

Rochelle was emotionally and psychologically affected, and it took her a long time to recover. I am worry that they are using the same tactic this season with Rachel. I am also beginning to see that F1 is Olena and F2 is Rachel.

Idlemess wrote:
I do as well [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] thanks for the info. I've been reading the comments on FB and suitability is often raised on the page so I've wondered if Olena's culture (might shed some light on her ethics solely based on the edited version of her on the show) and maybe how open the family is with dating and marriage. Obviously no different than others but I'm curious. 
Also, since episode 10 ?!? it's like the girls just discovered that Olena's from the Ukraine. Now she's labeled as this and that so it peaked my curiosity more as its attempting to 'explain her personality' which I haven't taken lightly. So what's the deal? Is it done to add more fuel to her mystery, to say that she's a hard nut to crack, (she's light a vault, a rock, etc) so good luck Richie with this one?

Maybe I can help you as I have the same ethnical background as Olena. Dating and marriage is a pretty big deal for us. And we take it pretty serious and not light headed. You can date guys but you will not bring them to your parents home unless you are dating that guy for a few years and plus you are 100% sure that it´s really serious and that the possibility is huge you will marry him. So if you are bringing to your parents home a guy it´s a sign that your relationship is heading to a marriage. So our parents are not used to that modern style of dating where you tend to bring home every new boyfriend you have.

Has anyone else considered that Rachael might actually be F1. JMO

Just Looking wrote:Has anyone else considered that Rachael might actually be F1.   JMO

Not with the edit she gets. IMO

Just Looking wrote:Has anyone else considered that Rachael might actually be F1.   JMO

Yes, I've shuddered that possibility. I'm admitting a bit of bias against Rachael based on her edit, but I've thought of her being the one as well and why I'm not sold 100% on anyone. Maybe if someone has the time and energy, they can do a breakdown of her moments with Richie. 

I keep bringing up seeing a post by a member on here that Rachael was following/ being followed by a friend of Richie's so I'm not sure what that means but...

natik wrote:

Just Looking wrote:Has anyone else considered that Rachael might actually be F1.   JMO

Not with the edit she gets. IMO

Maybe they will change it up if only to convince the audience of their connection. Didn't Richie tell her that she's a woman  ? So they've shown he sees her differently. 

On the other hand, I would love to see the foreshadow of her comment of Olena being F2 with Rachael actually being F2. It was, IMO, left in for a reason. To me from night 1, Rachael has been assessing all the girls and had lots of comments and narrations also being a prognosticator (producer's dream girl)?

Idlemess wrote:

natik wrote:

Just Looking wrote:Has anyone else considered that Rachael might actually be F1.   JMO

Not with the edit she gets. IMO

Maybe they will change it up if only to convince the audience of their connection. Didn't Richie tell her that she's a woman  ? So they've shown he sees her differently. 

On the other hand, I would love to see the foreshadow of her comment of Olena being F2 with Rachael actually being F2. It was, IMO, left in for a reason. To me from night 1, Rachael has been assessing all the girls and had lots of comments and narrations also being a prognosticator (producer's dream girl)?

I actually did consider it but quickly abandoned the idea: with that edit, I don't think so. I thought:' No way!/ I would laugh all night if she won...they would make history...a F1 with that edit?

Idlemess wrote:

natik wrote:

Just Looking wrote:Has anyone else considered that Rachael might actually be F1.   JMO

Not with the edit she gets. IMO

Maybe they will change it up if only to convince the audience of their connection. Didn't Richie tell her that she's a woman  ? So they've shown he sees her differently. 

On the other hand, I would love to see the foreshadow of her comment of Olena being F2 with Rachael actually being F2. It was, IMO, left in for a reason. To me from night 1, Rachael has been assessing all the girls and had lots of comments and narrations also being a prognosticator (producer's dream girl)?

That is what I´m thinking too. I can`t see Richie taking Alex as a single mum to the F2 spot. Nikki is running out of screencaps. Rachael has the date at the beach. It could be her HTD but [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] checked the weather at that period of time and it was not warm enought to walk at the beach in shorts (Rachael is wearing white shorts in the screencaps). So I`m assuming it`s Bali.
And her comments would go along with the whole story. They are foreshadowing Rachael`s fate. "Olena is F2", "Richie does not want a model", and so on.

So if we `ll see a build up to her "connection" with Richie it´s a dead give away for me that she is F2. IMO

EDIT: And I forgot something to mention. There was a strange tweet from Osher regarding Rachael`s fate on the show. He was asked on twitter about Rachael`s snarky comments and if Richie knew of that during filming. And Osher replied something kinda between the lines no Richie didn`t knew about the snarky side of Rachael but it´s gonna be important or something for Rachael`s fate on the show. I don`t know exactly his words but I understood it that way. And he answered it in the early days of the show. IMO