Bachelor Australia - Season 4 - Richie Strahan - F1-F6 - *Sleuthing - Spoilers*

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AllAboutLove wrote:ITA [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] with your post and also see the F4 the same.

It makes sense for them to have a similar edit to Sash/Sam given Richie is the only other contestant to become lead and thus have a "second chance at love" theme like Sam did. Like you posted, making it too obvious is what they did with Sam's season.

I think if Nikki is F1 then it will get even more obvious with the edit that she is F1 especially since production is now US Bach produced and it seems the US shows go with the obvious edit all the time these past few years.

The US edit is not obvious.  because it is spoiled by RS, from the beginning we find the connection because we are all looking specifically for it.

Sorry but I disagree. I am one of the few on this site that has watched and posted the last three seasons of the US Bachelor and Bette unspoiled without any RS influence. I and the few that have joined me on those crazy rides have had no problem picking the F3 - isn't that right [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] - she and many others were there supporting us through those crazy times.

I'm pretty sure I picked Sean (even though I love Nick) and I definitely picked Lauren and Jordan for F1. To me and the unspoiled posters I posted with, the F1 was pretty obvious from quite early on for the last three US seasons.

RS or not, it was obvious to me that JoJo was going to pick Jordan. It was the way she acted around him - she was a total goner and the way she looked at him was a dead giveaway. So, I am another that disagrees that the US show is not obvious. As an Australian, I didn't even know who RS was back in Chris Soules season and picked Whitney as the F1. I hadn't really watched the US show before that season. I remember questioning why the edit was so obvious with Sam and Sasha on this forum, and that they must be trying to mislead us as I felt that there was no mystery to who the F1 was! I feel it is happening again with Richie's story.

in_denial wrote:RS or not, it was obvious to me that JoJo was going to pick Jordan. It was the way she acted around him - she was a total goner and the way she looked at him was a dead giveaway. So, I am another that disagrees that the US show is not obvious. As an Australian, I didn't even know who RS was back in Chris Soules season and picked Whitney as the F1. I hadn't really watched the US show before that season. I remember questioning why the edit was so obvious with Sam and Sasha on this forum, and that they must be trying to mislead us as I felt that there was no mystery to who the F1 was! I feel it is happening again with Richie's story.

Yes - if this season goes with the type of edit we have seen recently on the US seasons then it will be no surprise that Nikki is F1.

During Sam W's season I was totally gobsmacked when the screen caps showed that Heather didn't make it past F4. I thought the edit showed her as F1 but the screen caps - which never lie and are always definitive - showed a completely different ending for her.

With Sam F's season I picked Sasha from the beginning because I thought he had the F1 edit plus the screen caps to back it up.

Now with this season I believe we have the F1 edit (Nikki) but no screen caps to confirm it - so until I see those screen caps, which have always proven to be correct, I think that F1 could be Nikki, Olena, Alex, Faith or Rachael. How's that for keeping your options open!  

Regarding sleuthing and no RS:

Many of us in the international thread have been sleuthing since Blake's season and sleuthed correctly that Sam would be F1. Same for Snez F1 and Sasha F1 and F1 sleuthed always/at least by HTDs by most members on this forum.

When it comes to the US shows, I would even go so far as to say that many sleuthers do a better job than RS himself since he has been wrong about his spoilers and yet sleuthers sleuthed the F1 before RS (and he subsequently changed his spoilers after sleuthers had already sleuthed F1).

IMO, I think that sleuthers see things even more clearly without RS. So far every season for different International shows (Australia, Canada, New Zealand, France, etc) members have correctly sleuthed who the F1 is.

Even more than that, sleuthers have also accurately sleuthed whether the relationship would last as well (Bach NZ S2 was one such season where almost from the beginning many sleuthers saw the lead and F1 breaking up and they did - 24 hours after the ATFR)

We definitely need more screencaps! Hopefully we get some after tonight's episode.

Katiebelle wrote:
Now with this season I believe we have the F1 edit (Nikki) but no screen caps to confirm it - so until I see those screen caps, which have always proven to be correct, I think that F1 could be Nikki, Olena, Alex, Faith or Rachael. How's that for keeping your options open!  

Very funny!  I think you're spot on.

But part of me would really like the F1 to be a little more obvious (like it was with Sam/Sash), because fundamentally I think it helps to be more engaged in the love story aspect of the show.  At this point I don't have any real confidence in the particular love story with any of the girls

in_denial wrote:We definitely need more screencaps! Hopefully we get some after tonight's episode.

I agree!

Once we have more s/caps I think it will be pretty easy to sleuth who is possible F3 and F1. Most times those s/caps come around by HTD so I expect by then we can eliminate who is not in F3 and sleuth F1. I won't be surprised if the edit will be reflected in the s/caps once there are more of them so will see.

This is my first season joining this forum but I have always visited because I think you guys are amazing sleuths and you make my viewing so much more interesting:) and I love that you are big fans too! I have to admit every season of the Bach and bette I've watched I have never been able to pick the f1(that's just watching with no influences) Sam w I picked heather, Sam f I picked Richie, Ben h I thought jojo, and so on. So this season I thought Nikki hence why I think I am wrong again! So going by my really Really bad track record im going to guess totally different and say f1 is Olena f2 Rachael and f3 Alex with Nikki or faith (my faves) at f4?... But who knows I guess until more sc

in_denial wrote:RS or not, it was obvious to me that JoJo was going to pick Jordan. It was the way she acted around him - she was a total goner and the way she looked at him was a dead giveaway. So, I am another that disagrees that the US show is not obvious. As an Australian, I didn't even know who RS was back in Chris Soules season and picked Whitney as the F1. I hadn't really watched the US show before that season. I remember questioning why the edit was so obvious with Sam and Sasha on this forum, and that they must be trying to mislead us as I felt that there was no mystery to who the F1 was! I feel it is happening again with Richie's story.

The edit seems to make it obvious with the b/ette but not the bachelor IMO. I do not know why. All the b/ette seasons have been very predictable. The bachelor not so IMO.

LeapofFaith wrote:This is my first season joining this forum but I have always visited because I think you guys are amazing sleuths and you make my viewing so much more interesting:) and I love that you are big fans too! I have to admit every season of the Bach and bette I've watched I have never been able to pick the f1(that's just watching with no influences) Sam w I picked heather, Sam f I picked Richie, Ben h I thought jojo, and so on. So this season I thought Nikki hence why I think I am wrong again! So going by my really Really bad track record im going to guess totally different and say f1 is Olena f2 Rachael and f3 Alex with Nikki or faith (my faves) at f4?... But who knows I guess until more sc

So glad you have joined us [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

Don't sell yourself short! Everyone contributes and sees things differently and there is no right or wrong.

I also saw Heather as F1 until s/caps showed she would not make it past F4. Richie was my fave as well and he didn't have s/caps past F3 so you are correct that s/caps will help us to sleuth who may be F1.

It doesn't matter if one is correct or incorrect with sleuthing F1 or whether one sees a love story or not, what matters most is having fun sleuthing together and discussing different points of view. All opinions and views about the show are welcome no matter who our faves may be so feel free to post and sleuth and have fun

My girl crush on Olena and becoming a new fan of the bachelor has led me to discover this forum and all this awesome sleuthing! I've enjoyed reading everyone's thoughts and findings so I wanted to share something I read last night while checking out the bachelor Facebook page. While reading the visitor posts, I saw a comment by a woman who claims to have a sister who was in the crew for filming. She says that the final four for HTDs are Nikki, Olena, Alex and Rachel (she also typed it in that order). Moreover, someone asked if she had any other gossip and she talked about why Khalia was eliminated so quickly as well as how richie wanted to eliminate keira earlier but producers wanted to keep her in. Thus they never showed him giving the rose to her after she won the group date as he didn't give it voluntarily.

I've checked and the comments by the person haven't been deleted yet and remains on the fb page, so you can check it out for yourselves! Its under a visitor post that discusses someone reading about Alex and her son at the newsagents. Of course, we should take this with a grain of salt as anyone can claim they have insider info. But its confirming a lot of what everyone has predicted! Hope this helps

I think the one thing I've seen so far that really makes me think that Nikki is F1 is at the previous cocktail party when he took her aside to really reassure her that he was into her, and to hang in there. I do honestly think he was blindsided by Megan leaving, and he was concerned that Nikki might have the same feelings that Megan did, and leave as well.